Way better than ep VII, the force awakens wasn't even good (12)
36%
Toe-to-toe with ep VII, both were good (8)
24%
A bit worse than ep VII, wich is no shame, ep VII was hyype (6)
18%
Good for fans, medium for non fans (3)
9%
Way worse than ep VII (2)
6%
Won't compare the 2 films, it was just good. (2)
6%
33 total votes
Your vote: How Good was Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
(Vote): Way better than ep VII, the force awakens wasn't even good (Vote): Toe-to-toe with ep VII, both were good (Vote): A bit worse than ep VII, wich is no shame, ep VII was hyype (Vote): Way worse than ep VII (Vote): Won't compare the 2 films, it was just good. (Vote): Good for fans, medium for non fans
Have seen too much mixed feelings, and I think this pool might be cool to see what everyone thinks.
mainstream loves Episode 7, so this poll will surely decide Ep7 > Rogue One
I voted for Episode 7 is a bit better than Rogue One solely on the strength of Rogue One's last few minutes. Otherwise, it'd be a rout in favor of Episode 7.
The real difference here is that I didn't go into Rogue One expecting much - it looked mediocre from the outset - and it turned out to be not all that bad. Ep 7 was solidly better.
Their hatred for the CGI Tarkin is a bit weird. I thought he was really really well done. Leia wasn't. I also liked how Vader looked like his ANH suit, and I thought that was great.
I think they are far too negative. Yes, the characters are not very interesting. But the action was great. And I liked K2SO.
lol i cant believe there are so many people in here that are singing Episode VII's praises. It's FAR from a perfect Star Wars movie.
First off, it's a complete clone of Star Wars Episode IV in terms of the story, everything from starting on Desert Planets and ending with the destruction of the death star, to the tie fighter vs Millenium Falcon scene, to the mentor's death at the hands of the main bad guy scene.
Secondly, there's the absolute ridiculousness of Starkiller Base which even in a world with crazy impossible astrophysics like Star Wars this stupid super weapon completely breaks any kind of immersive believability.
So we have people criticizing Rogue One for not having great standalone characters + Show Spoiler +
(despite the fact you knew they were all doomed from the beginning)
when there's almost NOTHING original about Episode VII at all!
The action sequences in Rogue One IMO are OBJECTIVELY better than anything in Episode VII (unless you're a super fan of lightsaber duels) and the story is comparable in quality to Episode VII and contains just as many unique and memorable moments.
I went into Rogue One with high expectations and I went into Episode VII with very LOW expectations and Rogue One still left me with a much better overall opinion when it was said and done.
On December 16 2016 18:41 disciple wrote: The movie is basically the first Hobbit with a StarWars skin on top. A group of disposable characters with very little character development and hard to remember names. Turns out Darth Vader lived in the tower of Sauron in Mordor...Also just like the Hobbit, Rogue One had no clear tone - it mixed humor and slap stick comedy with casual deaths and tragedy.
I think that tower is a pretty deep cut from Lucas' very early drafts. He's always wanted a fortress surrounded by lava for his Vader or Vader analogue character.
I was desperately hoping they would do the thing, and they did. + Show Spoiler +
They killed the whole heist crew. I was a little afraid that the sunset/nuke/ death laser was going to be the last shot, but I got the last stand I was hoping for on the flag ship with the Rebel soldiers.
I really quite enjoyed the film and thought it thoughtfully enriched the original trilogy. Little things like having Red 5 die (Luke's call sign) so that that slot in the squadron is available for Episode IV. They didn't have to do that sort of thing, but little things like that were scattered throughout without drawing too much attention to themselves. And I appreciated it.
Yea I agree the movie did great service to hardcore fans, but I also think those hardcore fans need to be more demanding to the material of these stand alone movies. Instead of really going deep into the lore, we got a movie thats explained in the title crawl of ANH, next we will have a Han Solo movie and then maybe a Obi Wan flick with ewan mcgregor. All of those will be basically nostalgia porn and there is so much great material to pick from the extended universe. Not saying that will we never get a movie set in the old republic, but given disneys time line it might be 10 years till that happens. And its up to the hardcore fans to make disney course correct.
How would we go about doing that? Because if it was up to me and my demands, I would have the Zahn trilogy and the X wing series turned into films. I would also have General Jan Dodonna be a major part of the planning stage of the+ Show Spoiler +
Death Star plans strike/ heist. I have a soft spot for clever generals, whereas Hollywood hates top down authority and prefers the mavericks that disobey orders and solves the problems outside the command structure.
Haha, you sound like the dialogue in Marvel's Agents of SHIELD midseason finale (or maybe the ep before) with the new director and coulson discussing whether Solo or Ackbar is the real hero of Star Wars
I haven't seen that particular episode, but I'm sure I would like it. There is a list of Rebel military commanders that was dear to me when I was quite young: Jan Dodonna, Carlist Rieekan, Crix Madine, Admiral Ackbar. One of my favourite tie-in of the old Rogue Squadron game was that Rieekan was your commander. Any EU reference to the cleverness of Dodonna was a highlight for me. His insignificant role in this film was disappointing, but not unexpected. I think that's also why Thrawn (and his Rebel/ New Republic counterpart Iblis) appealed so much to me.
I think this movie reflects the current trend of movies jumping straight into plot without wasting much time. Everything from the start advances the plot, sometimes it gets too fast.
I just rewatced the episode V, which mostly considered one of the best in the series. There is a 20 minute at the start which doesn't add anything to the plot. Skywalker goes out sightseeing on an ice planet and gets caught in the storm etc. And then there's that overly long chase scene with Han constantly advancing on princess... Movie kinda starts at yoda's house.
Nowadays movies don't do such things, they jump straight into main plot or the action. This sometimes leads to shallow characters whom you don't connect or care about, but overall it's up to the personal taste I think. I personally don't like long scenes that doesn't add anything to the plot.
Not my cup of tea. Character design was bad, music felt misplaced at times, buildup was bad and seemed to be rushed at times. Character introduction (on nearly all characters in the movie) and scenes were too short to create immersion. IMO less scenes and characters but a bit more focus would have been good for the movie.
All in all a 08/15 Hollywood action movie with good looks but not a lot of substance. IMO Episode VII clearly better. Bang Average
On December 20 2016 21:34 AngryMag wrote: Not my cup of tea. Character design was bad, music felt misplaced at times, buildup was bad and seemed to be rushed at times. Character introduction (on nearly all characters in the movie) and scenes were too short to create immersion. IMO less scenes and characters but a bit more focus would have been good for the movie.
All in all a 08/15 Hollywood action movie with good looks but not a lot of substance. IMO Episode VII clearly better. Bang Average
5/10
Funny how you described Episode 7 while saying Episode 7 is better. XD
On December 20 2016 19:34 mantequilla wrote: I think this movie reflects the current trend of movies jumping straight into plot without wasting much time. Everything from the start advances the plot, sometimes it gets too fast.
I just rewatced the episode V, which mostly considered one of the best in the series. There is a 20 minute at the start which doesn't add anything to the plot. Skywalker goes out sightseeing on an ice planet and gets caught in the storm etc. And then there's that overly long chase scene with Han constantly advancing on princess... Movie kinda starts at yoda's house.
Nowadays movies don't do such things, they jump straight into main plot or the action. This sometimes leads to shallow characters whom you don't connect or care about, but overall it's up to the personal taste I think. I personally don't like long scenes that doesn't add anything to the plot.
Yeah i found this too, i mean in the opening 10 minutes didn't they planet hop like 5 times plus? Luckily it slowed down after that but i was thinking i might be getting lost in this very fast if they continue at this rate.
As a fan since birth, this movie did it for me. I don't understand how everyone critiques it all the time. These people spent almost two+ years, and millions upon millions creating a movie to take up two hrs of your time. And then people "dislike", because it had a few plot holes or wasn't "killer" enough. Those two hrs were well spent, even if things weren't done correctly. Nothing is ever going to be 100% the way you want it, the movie is made for millions of people.
My girlfriend who isn't a huge star wars fan cried through most of the movies, so you know the drama is real and kicking even for those who don't understand the universe. As for those who do, just enjoy the movie, at least they're not bad adaptations of movies that came out in the 70's...
Star Wars isn't really the kind of series where you have to be fully aware of the backstory to enjoy. You could watch any of the episodes out of order and they would still be enjoyable.
Gong back to watch this a 3rd time with my wife and a friend who havent seen it yet. Still think this might be my favorite Star Wars movie since ROTJ even after repeated viewings. Still think this blows The Force Awakens away even after repeated viewings. I seriously still cant believe how good this movie is. I also still cant believe this somehow escaped the Disney corporate mediocrity police and was somehow released to the public.
On December 21 2016 03:29 Fliparoni wrote: Gong back to watch this a 3rd time with my wife and a friend who havent seen it yet. Still think this might be my favorite Star Wars movie since ROTJ even after repeated viewings. Still think this blows The Force Awakens away even after repeated viewings. I seriously still cant believe how good this movie is. I also still cant believe this somehow escaped the Disney corporate mediocrity police and was somehow released to the public.
your favorite movie silent of the lambs ? :d i have the same thing with the dark knight,i can watch this movie 1 time x week without getting bored
They are spot on with their review. The movie made it hard for me to care about anyone or anything.
On December 20 2016 21:45 Pontual wrote: The pool reflects perfectly the mixed feelings about this movie, top 2 voted are straight up opposites lol
Poll is missing the option "Disliked both" though.
Funny, when Episode 7 was released everybody loved it and I was one of the few in here who disliked it. 1 year later everybody is talking about how bad Episode 7 is and how awesome Rogue One is in contrast. Lets see what people say about this movie when the hype has settled.
I didn't DISLIKE Force Awakens per se, but I did have a lot of major issues with it. Most of these I'm not going to pass real judgement on until I see if this story they're trying to tell was worth basically building a gigantic placeholder movie that was just a rehash of A New Hope.
Rogue One was great for what it was, it was a glimpse into Star Wars history and it accomplished it tremendously well.
So since I didn't vote my final vote would've been, it was a great amazing movie, much better than the mediocre Episode VII.