he won IPL 4. but I get your point.
Oh yeah you're right about that. I should amend that to "recent major title."
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pvsnp
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he won IPL 4. but I get your point. Oh yeah you're right about that. I should amend that to "recent major title." | ||
DBooN
Germany2701 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Just the fact that there are "four horsemen" of Terran and a single Protoss that can hang with them tells you the whole story. And then there's aLive, Ryung, Keen, Bunny. So many Terrans are so good all of a sudden, and so many great protoss champions are so bad. Just keep believing everything is fine. was protoss broken in bw during the reign of the six dragons? | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:12 Charoisaur wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Just the fact that there are "four horsemen" of Terran and a single Protoss that can hang with them tells you the whole story. And then there's aLive, Ryung, Keen, Bunny. So many Terrans are so good all of a sudden, and so many great protoss champions are so bad. Just keep believing everything is fine. I'd say herO and Classic have decent chances to beat the "horsemen". They're definitely not favored to beat any of them. Or even 50/50. | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:12 DBooN wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Just the fact that there are "four horsemen" of Terran and a single Protoss that can hang with them tells you the whole story. And then there's aLive, Ryung, Keen, Bunny. So many Terrans are so good all of a sudden, and so many great protoss champions are so bad. Just keep believing everything is fine. was protoss broken in bw during the reign of the six dragons? I wasn't familiar enough with the game to comment on that. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
Just the fact that there are "four horsemen" of Terran and a single Protoss that can hang with them tells you the whole story. And then there's aLive, Ryung, Keen, Bunny. So many Terrans are so good all of a sudden, and so many great protoss champions are so bad. Just keep believing everything is fine. But the "Four Horsemen" aren't what they used to be. It's more a theme than a real thing at this point. ByuN has been lagging considerably, Maru has barely played in anything. Inno and TY are the only real "Horsemen." The actual best players (in no particular order) are INnoVation, Stats, TY, and Dark. And that's pretty even race-wise. | ||
Poopi
France12475 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Just the fact that there are "four horsemen" of Terran and a single Protoss that can hang with them tells you the whole story. And then there's aLive, Ryung, Keen, Bunny. So many Terrans are so good all of a sudden, and so many great protoss champions are so bad. Just keep believing everything is fine. Is it even possible to think that Protoss are not favored against terrans right now without trolling? O_o I'm genuinely impressed about this level of denial... | ||
Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Just the fact that there are "four horsemen" of Terran and a single Protoss that can hang with them tells you the whole story. And then there's aLive, Ryung, Keen, Bunny. So many Terrans are so good all of a sudden, and so many great protoss champions are so bad. Just keep believing everything is fine. No Gumigod, obvious troll post | ||
Elentos
55454 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:13 Olli wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2017 22:12 Charoisaur wrote: On March 20 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Just the fact that there are "four horsemen" of Terran and a single Protoss that can hang with them tells you the whole story. And then there's aLive, Ryung, Keen, Bunny. So many Terrans are so good all of a sudden, and so many great protoss champions are so bad. Just keep believing everything is fine. I'd say herO and Classic have decent chances to beat the "horsemen". They're definitely not favored to beat any of them. Or even 50/50. herO is 50/50 with ByuN and Inno this year. | ||
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Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:14 Poopi wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Just the fact that there are "four horsemen" of Terran and a single Protoss that can hang with them tells you the whole story. And then there's aLive, Ryung, Keen, Bunny. So many Terrans are so good all of a sudden, and so many great protoss champions are so bad. Just keep believing everything is fine. Is it even possible to think that Protoss are not favored against terrans right now without trolling? O_o I'm genuinely impressed about this level of denial... I don't understand where you get the idea from that protoss is favored against Terran, it can't be due to winrates or championships or anything game-related. | ||
pvsnp
7676 Posts
I don't understand where you get the idea from that protoss is favored against Terran, it can't be due to winrates or championships or anything game-related. It's related to the recent lib+mine nerfs, and Stats proving that top Protosses can beat top Terrans. Protoss might be slightly favored against Terran atm, but no more than that. | ||
Elentos
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Durnuu
13273 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:16 Olli wrote: Show nested quote + On March 20 2017 22:14 Poopi wrote: On March 20 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Just the fact that there are "four horsemen" of Terran and a single Protoss that can hang with them tells you the whole story. And then there's aLive, Ryung, Keen, Bunny. So many Terrans are so good all of a sudden, and so many great protoss champions are so bad. Just keep believing everything is fine. Is it even possible to think that Protoss are not favored against terrans right now without trolling? O_o I'm genuinely impressed about this level of denial... I don't understand where you get the idea from that protoss is favored against Terran, it can't be due to winrates or championships or anything game-related. ByuN is losing to protosses so Protoss is imba | ||
Olli
Austria24413 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:18 pvsnp wrote: Show nested quote + I don't understand where you get the idea from that protoss is favored against Terran, it can't be due to winrates or championships or anything game-related. It's related to the recent lib+mine nerfs. You mean the ones that so far haven't had any impact at all? The liberator nerf did literally nothing, mass liberator still works the same way it did before. The mine nerf makes phoenix/adept a little better, but still doesn't address the underlying issues. Zest got build countered because he opened phoenix/adept. Every protoss has to mix in robo builds despite them being terrible, just because they'd get exploited and blind countered otherwise. That's a huge issue in any game, and funny enough it was the exact same thing that Terrans were crying their eyes out about in 2014. But hey, we can't have protoss asking for balance even after months of PvT winrates around 40%. | ||
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Inflicted
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Penev
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Aunvilgodess
954 Posts
On March 20 2017 22:11 Olli wrote: Just the fact that there are "four horsemen" of Terran and a single Protoss that can hang with them tells you the whole story. And then there's aLive, Ryung, Keen, Bunny. So many Terrans are so good all of a sudden, and so many great protoss champions are so bad. Just keep believing everything is fine. Until we get more results, yes, I will believe that. We just had a balance update. | ||
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