On May 12 2017 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Damdred (town)
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Tumblewood
Skynx (?)
fuba (?) (town)
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raynpelikoneet
Finland42261 Posts
May 15 2017 13:20 GMT
#1561
On May 12 2017 19:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: raynpelikoneet Tumblewood Skynx (?) | ||
Vivax
Austria20943 Posts
May 15 2017 13:28 GMT
#1562
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Vivax
Austria20943 Posts
May 15 2017 13:29 GMT
#1563
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raynpelikoneet
Finland42261 Posts
May 15 2017 13:30 GMT
#1564
On May 15 2017 22:28 Vivax wrote: I'm sheeping rayn if he starts to play again but I'm not blindly lynching down his D1 lists. Yeah why would you since you're on it and mafia. | ||
Vivax
Austria20943 Posts
May 15 2017 13:31 GMT
#1565
On May 15 2017 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On May 15 2017 22:28 Vivax wrote: I'm sheeping rayn if he starts to play again but I'm not blindly lynching down his D1 lists. Yeah why would you since you're on it and mafia. Well you're wrong so there's that. I can offer you to help you lynch my scummates then, but not me first. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22614 Posts
May 15 2017 13:32 GMT
#1566
On May 11 2017 06:57 Holyflare wrote: My point of view is that rayn didn't like what you said and you had a massive boring snoozefest that I didn't read where you explained your post multiple times and rayn no doubt used dumb analogies to try and get his point across. You just repeatedly explained yourself and had no bite back and didn't even bother getting into my points on rayn. You were having an argument with rayn for the sake of having an argument rather than figuring it out with other people even though they were present. Then rayn stopped pushing you and you didn't care and you did nothing more and qq left when palmar insulted you. Your point regarding Grack is well received. Additionally just notice the rambling sentences and the uncompromising tone. "massive boring snoozefest bla blah" "had no bite back" "argument for the sake of having an argument" This post is full of absolutely nothing and yet it "sounds" like HF is taking some grand stance. Even in the context of the discussion grack and hf were having at the time it's terrible. There's no conclusion from it, there's no desire or willingness to lynch grack, there's only some vague calling him out that eventually lead to nothing. It's one of the most forceful nothingburgers I've ever seen. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 15 2017 13:36 GMT
#1567
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 15 2017 13:39 GMT
#1568
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Palmar
Iceland22614 Posts
May 15 2017 13:39 GMT
#1569
Give me your top 3 townreads | ||
Palmar
Iceland22614 Posts
May 15 2017 13:40 GMT
#1570
On May 15 2017 22:39 Holyflare wrote: There's also no conclusions to be made in that specific post because i do make a conclusion and that post is a direct response to someone's question What was the question? Did I miss it? (Like I might totally have fucked up reading your convo, but I couldn't really pinpoint what question you were answering). | ||
Vivax
Austria20943 Posts
May 15 2017 13:41 GMT
#1571
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 15 2017 13:42 GMT
#1572
On May 11 2017 18:17 Holyflare wrote: I didn't say grack was mafia yet which is evident from my post that contains 0 semblance of me saying Grackaroni is mafia let's lynch him. Why do you keep saying I think he's mafia? Because I liked that darthfoley found something good? It's a good point, it weighs in favour of grack being mafia but it doesn't make him mafia. I think between that post and him saying grack was running away from palmar it was an intuitive observation and seemed pretty natural for him to say. None of those things are what you're saying I'm saying. Literally right here. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
May 15 2017 13:43 GMT
#1573
Which is overwhelmingly my town meta of seeing something more egregious and voting the fuck out of it Unless your argument is that I'm shit at mafia | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42261 Posts
May 15 2017 13:44 GMT
#1574
On May 15 2017 22:32 Palmar wrote: This post is such a good example of the bad tone I keep getting from hf this game Vivax: Show nested quote + On May 11 2017 06:57 Holyflare wrote: My point of view is that rayn didn't like what you said and you had a massive boring snoozefest that I didn't read where you explained your post multiple times and rayn no doubt used dumb analogies to try and get his point across. You just repeatedly explained yourself and had no bite back and didn't even bother getting into my points on rayn. You were having an argument with rayn for the sake of having an argument rather than figuring it out with other people even though they were present. Then rayn stopped pushing you and you didn't care and you did nothing more and qq left when palmar insulted you. Your point regarding Grack is well received. Additionally just notice the rambling sentences and the uncompromising tone. "massive boring snoozefest bla blah" "had no bite back" "argument for the sake of having an argument" This post is full of absolutely nothing and yet it "sounds" like HF is taking some grand stance. Even in the context of the discussion grack and hf were having at the time it's terrible. There's no conclusion from it, there's no desire or willingness to lynch grack, there's only some vague calling him out that eventually lead to nothing. It's one of the most forceful nothingburgers I've ever seen. It is good you told all this to us an D1 when you know this happened and not in LYLO. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42261 Posts
May 15 2017 13:45 GMT
#1575
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Palmar
Iceland22614 Posts
May 15 2017 13:46 GMT
#1576
On May 15 2017 22:41 Vivax wrote: I'm reading HF meta right now and I'm tempted to just put a post out there wanting you to tell me if you think he's town or mafia. let's go for it, but context is important. Like there is an inherent bias that not only is HF rather militant and aggressive, he's also aggressively completely wrong on everything. I don't mind him being firm, but he's writing checks he cant cash and it's painfully obvious. I can be super firm and uncompromising at times, but it's usually when I _know_ I am right. Given how wrong HF has been this game it seems more likely that he should have been rather unsure. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22614 Posts
May 15 2017 13:47 GMT
#1577
On May 15 2017 22:43 Holyflare wrote: Like your argument is that i literally say grack is doing a scummy thing and then forget that read 3 posts later and not want to lynch him Which is overwhelmingly my town meta of seeing something more egregious and voting the fuck out of it Unless your argument is that I'm shit at mafia I don't know about Vivax, but my point is that I have a problem with your tone and conclusion. Why do you want to lynch Grack now? | ||
Vivax
Austria20943 Posts
May 15 2017 13:50 GMT
#1578
On May 15 2017 22:43 Holyflare wrote: Like your argument is that i literally say grack is doing a scummy thing and then forget that read 3 posts later and not want to lynch him Which is overwhelmingly my town meta of seeing something more egregious and voting the fuck out of it Unless your argument is that I'm shit at mafia You know, this post is only true if Grack is town. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22614 Posts
May 15 2017 13:51 GMT
#1579
On May 15 2017 22:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On May 15 2017 22:32 Palmar wrote: This post is such a good example of the bad tone I keep getting from hf this game Vivax: On May 11 2017 06:57 Holyflare wrote: My point of view is that rayn didn't like what you said and you had a massive boring snoozefest that I didn't read where you explained your post multiple times and rayn no doubt used dumb analogies to try and get his point across. You just repeatedly explained yourself and had no bite back and didn't even bother getting into my points on rayn. You were having an argument with rayn for the sake of having an argument rather than figuring it out with other people even though they were present. Then rayn stopped pushing you and you didn't care and you did nothing more and qq left when palmar insulted you. Your point regarding Grack is well received. Additionally just notice the rambling sentences and the uncompromising tone. "massive boring snoozefest bla blah" "had no bite back" "argument for the sake of having an argument" This post is full of absolutely nothing and yet it "sounds" like HF is taking some grand stance. Even in the context of the discussion grack and hf were having at the time it's terrible. There's no conclusion from it, there's no desire or willingness to lynch grack, there's only some vague calling him out that eventually lead to nothing. It's one of the most forceful nothingburgers I've ever seen. It is good you told all this to us an D1 when you know this happened and not in LYLO. I've had reservations about HF for a long time: On May 11 2017 21:09 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2017 21:06 Holyflare wrote: I don't think those people have done anything thrilling and/or they've called me mafia which is wrong and they need to get better at the game. yeah but that's the entire problem. I understand what you meant, I just don't like that you meant that. I guess the best way to explain it is that you don't call any of them outright leaning scum or lynch possibilities, you make this "positive" request of them instead. It implies that they haven't done anything wrong, which in turn means that you might possibly believe that only 1 player in the game has actually done anything wrong, which is not enough. But it's super minor, like I said, don't worry too much. Essentially I think you're in the "I'll probably not lynch you, but I wouldn't cry if someone checked you" category. On May 13 2017 00:25 Palmar wrote: annoys me a tiny little bit how militant hf is about this when the truth turns out to be a lot more nuanced than the picture he's trying to paint. Hf is actually a pretty good candidate for mafia. On May 13 2017 01:26 Palmar wrote: hf has done some alarming things, but I'm still torn . On May 15 2017 05:35 Palmar wrote: My main reason I think holyflare could be mafia here is because he feels very, very uncompromising. There is a chance this is the result of the lack of direction in this town, but it just feels like... he's trying to enforce his will too hard. I came into the thread yesterday, talking about various things, and I felt like the only thing HF wanted to say was "Fuba is the lynch". He seems overly focused on just one thing at a time ignoring sort of the larger gamestate. I'm not even sure it makes him mafia, and this is very much just a gut tonal read. I am much more convinced Grack is mafia. But, even now I'm not sure. He does have (by far) the longest filter in the game. I know he can be aggressively wrong at times. There's a very good reason I'm asking Vivax to review my suspicions of HF, because if we're both town and both suspect each other we will take this game down in flames. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42261 Posts
May 15 2017 13:53 GMT
#1580
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