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Koshi is 3P, I'm telling you. He makes reads but he doesn't care about pushing them properly or defending townies. He's just commenting with no vigour in the background and simultaneously the foreground.
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On June 16 2017 16:36 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 11:22 ruXxar wrote: After some reflection, I have 2 locked scum reads.
Vivax. Holyflare.
These two are 100% mafia and working together.
Reading their filters from the last day and looking at their vote pattern made it obvious.
Especially the way they ganged up on SL and lashed out on other people, while backing up each other's comments throughout. Please friend. Mafia never works together like that with no agenda. I think both also still have a better chance to be town over mafia. But remember this: "if at any point of the game Vivax stops playing like he did here, his mafia chances skyrocket" The mafia this game are not active players or players that draw attention to them. I have known and said this for a while now. Look at people like Xatalos, eversince, btdt, grack, marv his replacement. Do not look at people like HF, Vivax, disformation, sicklucker Why am I in this list then? Right, because you want to throw shit on people that are active town.
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On June 16 2017 18:41 Holyflare wrote: Koshi is 3P, I'm telling you. He makes reads but he doesn't care about pushing them properly or defending townies. He's just commenting with no vigour in the background and simultaneously the foreground. I think this perfectly meets his scum meta.
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Just shoot him then.
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On June 16 2017 17:32 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 08:55 disformation wrote: wait wait wait... dodnt someone say he would expect more from annul given his reputation? how can that be true if annul is the hmguy who gets day1 lynched akl the time? fooooouuuuuuunnnnnnd it: added some bold. Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 02:14 Xatalos wrote:I can't be online much until EOD today.. I think I'll be online like 1-2 hours before the deadline and then just have to sleep. Anyways, here are my main reads so far (some people have posted nothing / barely anything so they've been basically ignored in my memory, who knows, would be dice rolling on them). 1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh). 2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM). 3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town. 4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him. 4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense. 5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched. 6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post: On June 15 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 06:24 Holyflare wrote: Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101. Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel? ...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite. That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either. 7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ??? Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time. So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall. good finding. Feels super forced.
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On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart. I think you're trying to tilt me as I did in the newbie game but I won't
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On June 16 2017 18:47 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote: Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart. I think you're trying to tilt me as I did in the newbie game but I won't hahahaha sure buddy. keep it up and people might believe you are genuine.
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What do you think of tw this game in comparison btdt?
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On June 16 2017 18:44 Holyflare wrote:Just shoot him then. I totally would if I could. I have no KP, though. I super hope we have town KP and someone can shoot into Xata/Koshi.
A Xata shot is way more valuable than a Koshi shot but a Koshi shot would make me feel better on a personal level. I'm super annoyed by this playstyle.
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On June 16 2017 18:51 Holyflare wrote: What do you think of tw this game in comparison btdt? Lemme look
Comparison to Generic II?
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On June 16 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 18:47 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote: Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart. I think you're trying to tilt me as I did in the newbie game but I won't hahahaha sure buddy. keep it up and people might believe you are genuine. Put some work in and read the newbie game and gtfo
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On June 16 2017 18:54 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 18:51 Holyflare wrote: What do you think of tw this game in comparison btdt? Lemme look Comparison to Generic II?
Yes
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On June 16 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 18:47 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote: Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart. I think you're trying to tilt me as I did in the newbie game but I won't hahahaha sure buddy. keep it up and people might believe you are genuine. Put some work in and read the newbie game and gtfo Good good. There is a small chance people will believe you. Don't try to convince me though. That wont work anymore.
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On June 16 2017 16:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote: You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.
Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.
Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.
I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow You are really an incredible player. :D Now I don't think both Vivax and HF are mafia like Ruxx is claiming. But one might be. But maybe not.
Waiting for the post game for me to be 100% wrong and have this be ironic
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On June 16 2017 16:39 Palmar wrote: I clicked darthfoley's filter. I don't like it much, and I would expect him to be a relatively easy townread if he was town. I think he is a good candidate for being mafia.
Thanks for your input Nostradamus.
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On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote: i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking: rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order) are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1 preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks this is like his only scumread. He doesn't talk about other people, the only thing he sticks with is where Koshi calls him out for a setup-related slip.
In Generic II, scum!Tumblewood commented on 10000 players D1 without actually committing: fuba, lightningstrike, grack, hf, Palmar, Vivax, prison break. He scumread 3 people D1.
Completely different D1 to this D1. Only thing they have in common is a lackluster read post:
On June 16 2017 00:02 Tumblewood wrote: i won't claim to have actually considered every player, but i'm thinking: rels, grack, vivax, annul, disfo, koshi, ruxxar, btdt (in no particular order) are probably town and definitely should not be lynched d1 preferably we lynch rayn or one of the afks
On May 11 2017 08:44 Tumblewood wrote: okay, I might as well get all my reads out at once: grack is my rock for now. and ls, but I always read him town. (don't get confused, he still is town. I'm always right.) for now I'm gonna just ignore Palmar and Hf, because Palmar is obstinate and not crusading yet Hf is kinda just yelling and picking fights. plus one of them or rayn will probably die n1 Damdred is a little good in my book prison break seems like most players I see from other sites. he seems to at least believe what he's saying skynx has disappointed me so far. he reminds me of myself which is usually a bad sign fuba had one post I thought sucked but other than that I've been ignoring him rayn is town I think? I like rayn, he's doin good stuff anyone else I just forgot was playing
However the Generic (scum) post is way better explained, not so carefree.
I think this game's TW can very well be scum. His filter is lackluster and super disinterested, given that we just lynched a townie, it can very well be scum being happy with town being on two town-wagons. Hint: shooting Xata would clear that theory up, instantly :x
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On June 16 2017 18:01 Vivax wrote: Basically anyone who argues Xata is scum is saying all mafia was on annul. Touche.
How is anyone arguing that? There were a variety of off wagon votes and 4 non votes. Why would that mean all four other mafia voted for Xata? Town could've just been on the wrong side of a hammer.
This is why it's important for KP to be aimed at Xata tonight
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On June 16 2017 19:05 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 16 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 18:47 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote: Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart. I think you're trying to tilt me as I did in the newbie game but I won't hahahaha sure buddy. keep it up and people might believe you are genuine. Put some work in and read the newbie game and gtfo Good good. There is a small chance people will believe you. Don't try to convince me though. That wont work anymore. I like how you throw shit on me without hesitation.
On June 16 2017 16:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote: You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.
Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.
Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.
I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow You are really an incredible player. :D Now I don't think both Vivax and HF are mafia like Ruxx is claiming. But one might be. But maybe not. While you drop knowledge bombs like this one.
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Palmar may be 3p. Maybe even Koshi trying to be pro-Town 3p. Idk and I'm not sure it matters atm
Think lots of scum lies between ES, Grack, TW, sl, Rels, HF or Vixax. Still waiting for rayn to scumhunt which is concerning. I need to reread btdt and disformation. Hopefully tonight's actions resolve some issues. Unfortunately I'll probably be dead lol
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On June 16 2017 19:14 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 19:05 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 16 2017 18:50 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 18:47 beentheredonethat wrote:On June 16 2017 17:59 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 17:50 Holyflare wrote: Sl/xata/eversince/marvslut/xxxxxxx btdt has a good shot. He is quite angry. I think the mafia team is falling apart. I think you're trying to tilt me as I did in the newbie game but I won't hahahaha sure buddy. keep it up and people might believe you are genuine. Put some work in and read the newbie game and gtfo Good good. There is a small chance people will believe you. Don't try to convince me though. That wont work anymore. I like how you throw shit on me without hesitation. Show nested quote +On June 16 2017 16:21 Koshi wrote:On June 16 2017 11:47 darthfoley wrote: You'd think Vivax, who spent all day bitching about how we didn't take his case in Eversince seriously enough, would actually participate in a legit wagon. Or vote the counter wagon to what's ES voted.
Also really don't like HF being the last vote on Xata. Placed perfectly to not kill him while also not hammering the flipped Town. Couple that with the fact that he spent way too much time "trying to convince us to vote SL" when it was clearly coming down to annul vs. Xata.
Eversince's vote is also complete garbage considering she cited HF as the only person to give her the lowdown of what was going on in the thread... then hammered the guy HF was white knighting (or defending if you want to be PC) without a care in the world. Vigi please blow Xata's brains out, but if you're feeling frisky, shoot ever since.
I need to really study how the last hour went down when I'm rested tomorrow You are really an incredible player. :D Now I don't think both Vivax and HF are mafia like Ruxx is claiming. But one might be. But maybe not. While you drop knowledge bombs like this one. Hey hey. I am calling you mafia. If I had any believe you could be town I would be calling you trash and then you could argue I throw shit on you without hesitation.
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