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On June 29 2017 07:38 Jerubaal wrote: So they wanted to trade a bunch of washed up losers for another bunch of washed up losers? Paul Pierce is a washed up winner! Actually Sasha "I carried Kobe's ass" Vujacic too. So yeah pretty even trade.
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He managed to do just that in the national team, but i guess that is a different situation.
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Phil Jackson seems to have drafted decently for the Knicks. It's the trades for veterans and free agent signing of veterans that he completely fucked up. IIRC, the notorious Isiah Thomas had a few good draft picks as well, when he wasn't trading them away like toxic radioactive material. At least Jackson didn't trade away all their future picks.
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On June 29 2017 06:44 Disregard wrote:Michael Eaves@ SportsCenter Show nested quote +But what really solidified Paul’s dissatisfaction with Doc was a proposed trade involving Carmelo Anthony last season. New York offered Carmelo and Sasha Vujacic to the Clippers in exchange for Jamal Crawford, Paul Pierce and Austin Rivers, a deal to which Rivers ultimately said no. That event led Paul to feel that keeping his son on the roster was more important to Doc than improving the team. So, ultimately, Paul lost both trust and faith in Doc. As one league executive put it, “Chris despises Doc. Ummm... Wow? LOL I still think Carmelo could be useful, especially if he had CP3 with him. But maybe this is all for good. Rivers is one of the most overrated shittiest coach in the NBA. His Celtics win was due to the Big 3, even Drake could have coached that team to a championship. He destroyed a franchise due to nepotism.
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How are the clippers 'destroyed' and how is Austin Rivers to blame? Rivers is overrated but he's not THAT shitty a coach, feels like you're just caught up in hater hyperbole.
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It's all good, Clips got the 4 combo guards + DJ lineup next season.
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Am I the only one who thinks of ingles like English in Spanish when they see Joe Ingles?
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How about this. You're a coach and you know that the best pure guard in the league is in your team, and he is in very real danger of leaving the team, and you block a trade that could improve your team just so you could save your son.
I've bandwaggoned on a lot of things, but I've hated him since Orlando.
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And now, rumors of PG to HOU. That FO is sick
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On June 29 2017 01:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i'd stay away from any point guard under 6'1", over 32 years old and wanting a long term deal.
In the last 30 years how many guys under 6'1" had great seasons after their 32nd birthday?
i'd stay away from both Paul and Lowry if they want a deal longer than 2 years. Let someone else screw up their salary cap. Another one of your "analytics"?
Stop already dude. You are a known ignoramus, coward, and liar.
On June 29 2017 02:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i'm pretty sure that in all sports tall athletes take longer to mature and peak than short athletes. Define tall and short?
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Dan Tony: "All your PGs are belong to us!"
The Genius of the Morey/CP3 trade: - Harden fronted the "negotiations" as FO cannot do so. - FO dangled Houston's non tax-equalization, thereby 6.5% tax rate, allowing CO3 to earn more than the contract - S/T allows CP3 to fall within the CBA 38-yo rule, as his 5th max year fall on his 38th year - Technically the trade in financial value would have had to include either Ariza or Gordon. Houston worked under the cap and packaged it with players salary in order to give room for the ~18m needed to get CP3, thus saving Ariza and Gordon
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On June 29 2017 12:17 Twinkle Toes wrote: How about this. You're a coach and you know that the best pure guard in the league is in your team, and he is in very real danger of leaving the team, and you block a trade that could improve your team just so you could save your son.
I've bandwaggoned on a lot of things, but I've hated him since Orlando. All rumors though.
Reports even indicate jackson rejected the trade first.
But yeah, fuck rivers!
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Whos worse jackson or rivers. I ho with jackson because he is a huge negative where as rivers is more a non factor
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Jackson used to be great.
Old age and dogma for 90s type triangle undid him.
Rivers is plain incompetent.
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I think jackson was in great situations not that he was great
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This is a valid topic for debate. The Same can be said of Winter-triangle - did it work because of superstars MJ and Pip + Kukoc, Rodman, or does the system make the players great. We can speculate all day and night but fact of the matter is, he won 11 rings and tamed and harnessed young Jordan, Rodman, early Kobe, and prime Kobe and Shaq ego. For that alone, he is definitely a great coach
Also, what happened to the Cavs-PG13 trade?
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If rivers had the big three in their prime for longer he would have won multiple championships. Would we then be calling him a great coach?
But like you say fun to debate and impossible to know the true answer. Personally I'm always more impressed with coaches that can get bad/mediocre teams up then coaches that win with people they should win with.
Like D;antonio I think is a great coach. Nash was not Nash before him, same with Harden. He elevates his players and his systems have changed basketball. The laker thing is a a tarnish for sure but that more had to do with the health of the players then him IMO. The fact that he has made Hou so successful after making the Suns a top team is impressive.
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Rivers has a history of choking, bad rotations, and just terrible decision making. I wouldn't necessarily call that "plain incompetent", but definitely he is overrated because of that one championship.
I agree. Which is why this year's Spo, Boston coach, and take-that-for-data coach are all wothy of COTY. D'Antoni is revolutionary though, can't really argue with that win.
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Rivers is incompetent. Not debatable.
How many 3-1 leads has he squandered?
And how many good teams has he failed to move past the 1st round?
Kerr, spoelstra, dan tony, pop, all would have won at least 2 chips wqith cp3, bg, jordan, redick, crawford. Rivers is a joke.
Cavs have no money. remember, they wasted their max on thompson, smith, and love. and they are on double repeater.
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