Sonic/Sbenu
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dbssaber
United States193 Posts
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LaStScan
Korea (South)1288 Posts
On September 17 2017 15:58 dbssaber wrote: Any word on what's been happening to Sonic or his company? The last I heard was that they had no money and were in court, but that was over a year ago. Not paying his suppliers was a pretty awful thing to do, but he was such a presence in the BW scene it feels odd not knowing anything about the situation. Korean laws and business ppl's mind are completely different than how american ppl do. Monopolized society. New brand, small brand have so much of difficulty making it very big. Most of the business companies fail cuz of other big name brands. IT companies(information technology) are the ones can pretty much survive in korea. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
On September 17 2017 16:24 LaStScan wrote: Korean laws and business ppl's mind are completely different than how american ppl do. Monopolized society. New brand, small brand have so much of difficulty making it very big. Most of the business companies fail cuz of other big name brands. IT companies(information technology) are the ones can pretty much survive in korea. that good to know but do you know if there are any new news regarding SBENU and Sonic? Is he still in hiding? Was some of the money recovered? I like the OP am also curious. | ||
Disregard
China10252 Posts
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Lazare1969
United States318 Posts
On September 17 2017 17:13 Disregard wrote: I find it ironic that being so connected in terms of infrastructure and technology, South Korea is still using and heavily reliant on ActiveX framework as the backbone of their online banking/financial system. Baffling but I digress as it's not related to the OP question though it does draw a lot of curiosity for many folks out there of how painful it is. The backbone in their tech industry is in electronics, not software. | ||
afreecaTV.Char
United States330 Posts
On September 17 2017 17:09 BigFan wrote: that good to know but do you know if there are any new news regarding SBENU and Sonic? Is he still in hiding? Was some of the money recovered? I like the OP am also curious. I do not really know the current status of Sbenu, but it seems Sonic was at the Seoul Qualifiers of ASL. Brittany pointed him out early in the day during his stream. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
On September 19 2017 11:06 afreecaTV.Char wrote: I do not really know the current status of Sbenu, but it seems Sonic was at the Seoul Qualifiers of ASL. Brittany pointed him out early in the day during his stream. hmm interesting. Wonder what this means. | ||
FlaShFTW
United States9655 Posts
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egernya
Canada352 Posts
He was recently arrested. | ||
GTR
51135 Posts
On September 20 2017 11:33 FlaShFTW wrote: Never forget style start sbenu! https://youtu.be/RZDiPjkMjNs (つ▀¯▀)つ STYLE START (つ•̀ᴥ•́)つ*:・ (✿ ◕‿◕) SBENU still remains to this date my favourite korean CF with a close second going to TITTYSAMBO | ||
PVJ
Hungary5051 Posts
On September 17 2017 17:13 Disregard wrote: I find it ironic that being so connected in terms of infrastructure and technology, South Korea is still using and heavily reliant on ActiveX framework as the backbone of their online banking/financial system. Baffling but I digress as it's not related to the OP question though it does draw a lot of curiosity for many folks out there of how painful it is. Kakao just broke into the banking sector. They might have skimped on developing for desktops being so deeply rooted in IE and MS based tech but the advent of mobile means sooner rather or later they'll have to adopt. On the other hand I remember way before smartphones they already used NFC chip equipped SIM cards to do e-payments and public transportation. On topic: Is Sonic being arrested a new twist or just the next logical step after the trial started? To me, it doesn't seem like a natural conclusion of previous events. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
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lemmata
465 Posts
"No evidence" might seem weird but non-payment is not necessarily a crime. Corporations default on their liabilities all the time. They were previously looking into embezzlement charges. In other words, it was alleged that Sonic took corporate funds meant for payments and used them for personal gain. It seems that they couldn't find evidence for charges of that sort. As of yet, no charges have been filed, but perhaps they arrested him to get evidence then file charges. One of the articles mentioned that one of the factory owners who had not been paid by Sonic believed that Sonic was receiving investments from third parties even now. My suspicion is that the factory owner wanted some of that money if it was true. That sounds highly unlikely though. Who would be dumb enough to invest in Sonic now? Not sure what case they could make even if it were true since Sonic is no longer associated with the Sbenu corporate entity. Maybe one of the handwritten contracts he signed exposes him to legal action. That's a long way of saying that no one knows anything other than Sonic has been arrested and no charges have been filed yet. I guess we will know soon enough if they find evidence? | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
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PVJ
Hungary5051 Posts
(and just to point out to those who like to comment first, think never; with this I'm not trying to say S. Korea is not a democracy. It is. That's why the proceedings described above are improbable or we are missing some crucial information about the case the police won't release just yet.) | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
On October 17 2017 18:08 PVJ wrote: Yeah I don't think you can arrest someone to gather evidence. That's coercion. Or well you can but that's a totalitarian system then. (and just to point out to those who like to comment first, think never; with this I'm not trying to say S. Korea is not a democracy. It is. That's why the proceedings described above are improbable or we are missing some crucial information about the case the police won't release just yet.) Maybe, who knows. Hopefully we'll get more info soon enough. | ||
lemmata
465 Posts
On October 17 2017 18:08 PVJ wrote: Yeah I don't think you can arrest someone to gather evidence. That's coercion. Or well you can but that's a totalitarian system then. (and just to point out to those who like to comment first, think never; with this I'm not trying to say S. Korea is not a democracy. It is. That's why the proceedings described above are improbable or we are missing some crucial information about the case the police won't release just yet.) Apparently, Koreans make a distinction between arrests for interrogation when there is "significant" suspicion and arrests after warrants have been issued. In S. Korea, "significant" suspicion is enough to detain you for up to 48 hours. The article mentions the courts would decide whether to issue a warrant on the 14th. So, Sonic would be free right now if the courts decided not to issue a warrant. | ||
PVJ
Hungary5051 Posts
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