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great work by the Toronto Star not to publish the rumours they received because they didn't have enough evidence to back the claims. the Toronto Star has its flaws.. but overall.. its pretty damn good.
DISCLAIMER : i'm not a "liberal".
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2018/01/25/patrick-browns-downfall-an-affront-to-fairness.html
Patrick Brown's Resignation i think the party regretted making Brown leader once they saw him in action; the latest events became their excuse to punt Brown and restart the offense with a new QB.
It was not merely an accusation that got him ousted. This was not "trial by social media mob". His support within the party was waning with each passing week.
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On January 27 2018 03:11 JimmyJRaynor wrote:great work by the Toronto Star not to publish the rumours they received because they didn't have enough evidence to back the claims. the Toronto Star has its flaws.. but overall.. its pretty damn good. DISCLAIMER : i'm not a "liberal". https://www.thestar.com/opinion/star-columnists/2018/01/25/patrick-browns-downfall-an-affront-to-fairness.htmlPatrick Brown's Resignationi think the party regretted making Brown leader once they saw him in action; the latest events became their excuse to punt Brown and restart the offense with a new QB. It was not merely an accusation that got him ousted. This was not "trial by social media mob". His support within the party was waning with each passing week.
The fact that literally everyone on the team said quit or we leave. And then didnt skip a beat in actually resigning the second he refused says more than enough.
Public opinion has barely gotten started.
Disclaimer. I am extremely liberal :clap
Wynne is all sorts of incompetent. . From a personal perspective I have a fair few friends who work in her office and have had the occasional socialization with many others in her office who all find her absolutely off her rocker in terms of conscious policy making and running the province. Completely out of touch.
But she is not sinister enough to pull something like this off
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i don't think all 26 caucus members were all watching CTV news at the exact same time the second the report was aired. i think they knew this report from CTV was coming and they told Brown that if it hits the airwaves they'll quit.
i usually vote for the most talented person whether they're pc, liberal, or ndp. i think Hazel Mccallion is the unofficial queen of canada.
so far i think Wynne has handled this better than Horwath. If Horwath is not careful she could get swerved.
i love this new ominous term "sexual misconduct"
<< in a Paul Morris Voice >> "Patrick Brown 5 minute major penalty for sexual misconduct.... time of the penalty twelve minutes thirty eight seconds... Patrick Brown ... 5 minutes for sexual misconduct" + Show Spoiler +
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But she is not sinister enough to pull something like this off Sorry, I didn't mean that I thought this could be a move by a political party member. I mean it'll be very easy for some rando, some ideologically possessed citizen to lone wolf it. But then again, it could all be real- but the damage is done regardless.
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If you think that sexual misconduct is a joke you are a really sad character.
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On January 27 2018 11:50 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: If you think that sexual misconduct is a joke you are a really sad character. i find Rosie Dimanno's biting humour about the patrick brown "sexual misconduct" case to be on point.
and i'm challenging Eric Lindros' memory on this one... how bizarre this case involves the distant memories of a hockey player with 5 million concussions.
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If you think that sexual misconduct is a joke you are a really sad character.
I think that sexual misconduct accusations without evidence is a joke.
edit: jimmy's joke was funny, don't get your panties all bent out of shape.
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CTV News is seeking comment from Eric Lindros regarding exactly what he said to MPP Macleod. i will be ROFLMAO if his response is ... " i can't remember "
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Ontario PC Party president Rick Dykstra resigns after sexual assault accusation
Senior Conservative campaign operatives discussed dropping MP Rick Dykstra as a candidate in the 2015 federal election when they became aware of allegations that he sexually assaulted a young staffer the previous year.
The campaign decided to allow him to continue to run. He lost his St. Catharine’s riding and subsequently became president of the Ontario Progressive Conservatives, a position he resigned on Sunday night, two hours after he received an email from Maclean’s outlining the allegations contained in this story.
Dykstra is a friend of Patrick Brown, who was leader of the party until he stepped down last week after several women told CTV news that he had engaged in inappropriate sexual contact with them. Brown denied the allegations and supporters feel he has been sand-bagged. Dykstra played a key role in the tense behind-the-scenes showdown over how the party will replace Brown.
Dykstra’s resignation on Twitter made no mention of the allegations against him. “As the process unfolds, I have made the decision to step aside as president and take a step back for someone else to lead us through the hard work,” Dykstra tweeted. Dykstra initially acknowledged receipt of the Maclean’s email and said he “will be responding.” This story will be updated when a response is received.
A young Conservative staffer filed a report with Ottawa police in 2014 complaining that Dykstra sexually assaulted her after a party.
The woman, who was then in her early 20s, worked for another Conservative MP at the time, a friend of Dykstra’s. She spoke about the incident to her boss, several friends, an official in the party whip’s office, and finally hired a lawyer but the Conservative government did not take action against Dykstra.
The young woman spoke to Maclean’s on condition of anonymity because she believes speaking out publicly could damage her career. The allegations have not been proven in court.
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Something is rotten in the state province of Ontario. The stack of cards continues to tumble for the Ontario Conservatives. This really hasn't been a great week for them. They even took some security breach damage on their internal database.
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Elizabeth May.. in trouble for "workplace bullying" LOL. during one of these "work place bullying" seminars i was forced to attend i was informed that even rolling your eyes at someone's comments is a form of bullying
https://globalnews.ca/news/3991413/elizabeth-may-bullying/
sounds like Elizabeth May is "victim shaming" and "victim blaming" LOL.
1 of my customers is an auto racing magazine... when they're coming up with catchy headlines for articles and working on the cover page for an edition ... the insults thrown back and forth by the creative team ( which includes the owner ) would make a navy seal blush. maybe we should round them up and cite them for "workplace bullying" as well.
Leave Liz alone i say.
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There has always been news about her, when she was released, where she would live, if she could change her name, when she had a child. Then recently again because her child is school age and she was volunteering at the school. I mean it hasn't been constantly top page for 13 years, but I live no where close and I am still always hearing about her.
Are you saying that people should just forget about her, she has served her time and they need to let her live her life?
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On January 31 2018 07:00 JimmiC wrote: There has always been news about her, when she was released, where she would live, i'm calling bullshit on that. from 2005 to 2010 do you have a source on her whereabouts during those years.
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Shockingly I don't keep a record of all the articles and even if there was a gap it wouldn't support your theory since 2010-2018 is a long time. But I checked her wikipedia and there is a fair bit in that time period. I'm sure if someone cared they could find more, I don't. Dumb thing to argue though when it takes a.5 sec google search and reading the top item to find some news in that time period.
But anyway the way you worded your first post seems to me suggest you don't think people should know her whereabouts. Is this your feeling? If so why?
+ Show Spoiler +A two-day hearing was held before Judge Jean R. Beaulieu in June 2005. He ruled that Homolka, upon her release on July 4, 2005, would still pose a risk to the public-at-large. As a result, using section 810.2 of the Criminal Code, certain restrictions were placed on Homolka as a condition of her release:
She was to tell police her home address, work address and with whom she lives. She was required to notify police as soon as any of the above changed. She was likewise required to notify police of any change to her name. If she planned to be away from her home for more than 48 hours, she had to give 72 hours' notice. She could not contact Paul Bernardo, the families of Leslie Mahaffy and Kristen French or that of the woman known as Jane Doe (see above), or any violent criminals. She was forbidden to be with people under the age of 16. She was forbidden from consuming drugs other than prescription medicine. She was required to continue therapy and counselling. She was required to provide police with a DNA sample.[8][53] There was a penalty of a maximum two-year prison term for violating such an order. While this reassured the public that Homolka would find it difficult to offend again, it was felt by the court that it might be detrimental to her as well, because public hostility and her high profile might endanger her upon release.[54]
On June 10, 2005, Senator Michel Biron declared that the conditions placed on Homolka were "totalitarian", according to an interview with CTV Newsnet.[55] Two weeks later, Biron apologized.[56]
Homolka then filed a request in the Quebec Superior Court for a wide-ranging injunction aimed at preventing the press from reporting about her following her release.
While at Joliette Institution, Homolka received death threats and was transferred to Ste-Anne-des-Plaines prison north of Montreal.[citation needed]
On July 4, 2005, Homolka was released from Ste-Anne-des-Plaines prison. She granted her first interview to Radio-Canada television, speaking entirely in French.[57] Homolka told interviewer Joyce Napier that she chose Radio Canada because she had found it to be less sensationalist than the English-language media. She said that she had likewise found Quebec to be more accepting of her than Ontario. She affirmed that she would be living within the province but refused to say where. She said she had paid her debt to society legally, but not emotionally or socially. She refused to speak about her alleged relationship with Jean-Paul Gerbet, a convicted murderer serving a life sentence at Ste-Anne-des-Plaines.[57] During the interview, her solicitor, Sylvie Bordelais, sat beside Homolka; however, she did not speak. Homolka's mother was also present but off-screen, and was acknowledged by Homolka.[57]
Freedom and relocation to Guadeloupe; subsequent return to Canada[edit] The national media reported in July 2005 that Homolka had relocated to the Island of Montreal. On August 21, 2005, Le Courrier du Sud reported that she had been sighted in the South Shore community of Longueuil, across the St. Lawrence River from Montreal.[58]
On November 30, 2005, Quebec Superior Court Judge James Brunton lifted all restrictions imposed on Homolka, saying there was not enough evidence to justify them.[59] On December 6, 2005, the Quebec Court of Appeal upheld Brunton's decision.[60] The Quebec Justice Department decided not to take the case to the Supreme Court, despite Ontario's urging.[61]
TVA reported on June 8, 2006, that Homolka's request to have her name changed was rejected. She had attempted to change her name legally to Emily Chiara Tremblay (Tremblay being one of the most common surnames in Quebec).[1]
Sun Media reported in 2007 that Homolka had given birth to a baby boy.[62] Quebec Children's Aid said that despite Homolka's past, the new mother would not automatically be scrutinized. Several nurses had refused to care for Homolka before she gave birth.[9] On December 14, 2007, CityNews reported that Homolka had left Canada for the Antilles so that her now one-year-old could lead a "more normal life."[9][63]
On Friday October 17, 2014, the jury in the first degree murder trial of Luka Magnotta heard that Karla Homolka is living in Quebec.[11]
A poll of 9,521 voters concluded that 63.27% believed that the public had the right to know Homolka's location, 18.57% of voters believed that she deserved anonymity, and 18.16% believed that Homolka should be permitted to receive anonymity in about 50 years.[64]
News reports as of April 20, 2016, placed Homolka as living with her children in Châteauguay, Quebec. Homolka was reportedly angry with reporters' attempts to speak with her.[65] Parents of children attending the same school as Homolka's children expressed great concern, despite reassurances from the school and the school board.[66]
Possibility of pardon[edit] On April 19, 2010, The Vancouver Sun reported that Homolka would be eligible to seek pardon for her crimes in the summer of 2010.[67][needs update] Offenders convicted of first- or second-degree murder or with indeterminate sentences cannot apply for a pardon due to the fact that their sentences are for life, but Homolka was convicted of manslaughter, and received less than the maximum life sentence, making her eligible. If she is successful her criminal record will not be erased but will be covered up in background checks, except those required for working with children or other vulnerable persons. The Canadian government introduced legislation later in the year to make pardons more difficult to get. On June 16, 2010, Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said an agreement had been reached between all federal parties to pass a bill that would prevent notorious offenders like Karla Homolka from obtaining a pardon.[68]
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Jeeze I'm getting sick of Trudeau's bullshit. A bunch of 20 somethings trying to rob a farmer should not be the ones getting sympathy. This isn't a race thing, and it's pathetic that it's being politicized that way
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He's is just trying to do whats best for peoplekind
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Like, I fully believe that the farmer is full of shit when he says the gun went off accidentally. but neither side are Innocent victims in this case, yet one is getting treated that way.
On February 13 2018 09:16 JimmiC wrote: He's is just trying to do whats best for peoplekind And things like this are counterproductive. An obvious joke taken out of context is used as cheap dismissal of anything Trudeau, and that weakens the impact of times where we can legitimately criticize him as in this Boushie case.
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