NBA Offseason 2018 - Page 18
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Twinkle Toes
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JimmyJRaynor
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On July 19 2018 23:43 Nemireck wrote: He provides the same scoring as DeRozan, but more efficient because he can shoot the 3 at 40%+ and brings NBA-best defense as well. Leonard is better than Derozan in every aspect of the game except playmaking. Derozan is a decent point guard and Leonard is not. That said, the Raptors have Delon, Freddie, and Pascal screaming for more time as playmakers. Derozan's playmaking role will be gobbled up by those guys. i think FVV will emerge as the best playmaker and surpass Lowry in about a year ... maybe 2. Lowry has been effusive in his praise of Freddy. The Raptors are going to have a nasty defense this year. EDIT: Derozan is slightly better creating his own shot when he has the ball deep into the interior of the defense. On July 19 2018 21:48 BlackJack wrote: This statement doesn't at all factor into how likely each player is to re-sign. It could be 6 years of DD for 1 year of Kawhi true do you want Derozan this year and the next 2 years at his price tag though? as you've stated the chance of winning a title with DD is close to zero. i hope RowdierBob reconsiders and makes a comeback. he always had some interesting insights. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/510598-nba-offseason?page=6#108 July 1, 2016. "Top five poison-pill contracts that will be signed this off season: 1. Demar " | ||
zev318
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On July 20 2018 00:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote: i guess an open question is.. how bad was Derozan's bad defense. Leonard is better than Derozan in every aspect of the game except playmaking. Derozan is a decent point guard and Leonard is not. That said, the Raptors have Delon, Freddie, and Pascal screaming for more time as playmakers. Derozan's playmaking role will be gobbled up by those guys. i think FVV will emerge as the best playmaker and surpass Lowry in about a year ... maybe 2. Lowry has been effusive in his praise of Freddy. The Raptors are going to have a nasty defense this year. EDIT: Derozan is slightly better creating his own shot when he has the ball deep into the interior of the defense. true do you want Derozan this year and the next 2 years at his price tag though? as you've stated the chance of winning a title with DD is close to zero. i hope RowdierBob reconsiders and makes a comeback. he always had some interesting insights. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/closed-threads/510598-nba-offseason?page=6#108 July 1, 2016. "Top five poison-pill contracts that will be signed this off season: 1. Demar " its actually mike conley's contract that should be #1 | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
On July 20 2018 02:30 zev318 wrote: its actually mike conley's contract that should be #1 was it a certainty Conley would get that deal? i thought this July 2016 post was about the "sure-fire, 100%-for-certain" giant money signings if it was a surprise i guess a guy getting a surprise max deal has the potential to be much worse though. | ||
zev318
Canada4304 Posts
On July 20 2018 03:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote: US Media "analysts" continue to say Demar Derozan has been the best player on the Raptors the last few years. This is incorrect. Kyle Lowry is the best player on the Raptors and has been for years. was it a certainty Conley would get that deal? i thought this July 2016 post was about the "sure-fire, 100%-for-certain" giant money signings if it was a surprise i guess a guy getting a surprise max deal has the potential to be much worse though. not sure if it was 100%, cant remember 2 years ago, but grizz couldnt lose him and he was the best free agent PG that year i think. i think someone would've given him a max if memphis didnt. | ||
Soularion
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JimmyJRaynor
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Lowry hasn't said 1 word publicly yet. That is not a good sign. It really looks like Ujiri lied to Derozan. Woj and Zach Lowe have been around a long time and have a lot of credibility. based on that , i don't think they are engaging in idle gossip. Their credibility and what they've discussed makes me wonder how old Serge Ibaka is. Lots of athletes have been caught lying about their age. Other athletes are better liars and never get caught. Demar Derozan agrees with me. He doesn't know how old Serge is. "We don’t know how old Serge really is. So sometimes he look like he’s 28, sometimes he looks like he 38. He’s been looking 28 lately" i got no clue how old the guy is. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22810 Posts
It has been done to the dirt and Ibaka himself finds it to be stereotypical, prejudicial and insulting. He doesn't think it is funny. This is at least your 5th post about it. We get you think it's funny, and think it's real because you love conspiracy but please stop posting your shit with 0 proof like it is fact. And demar does not agree with you. He was busting a buddies balls. Have you not watched any of the videos with him and Kyle and so on? Clearly he was joking. | ||
Soularion
Canada2764 Posts
Anyway, Ujiri himself explains it as changing circumstances, which I believe whole-heartedly. Stuff moves fast in the NBA. I figure they led DeRozan on because they didn't think they could land Kawhi, and then that changed. It's how it goes. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22810 Posts
On July 21 2018 01:41 Soularion wrote: Big men fall off really quick. Howard was 27 when he had his Lakers season. Alonzo Mourning was done at 30. Noah went from 13/11/5 DPOY to 7/10/5 and not even being an all-star. Anyway, Ujiri himself explains it as changing circumstances, which I believe whole-heartedly. Stuff moves fast in the NBA. I figure they led DeRozan on because they didn't think they could land Kawhi, and then that changed. It's how it goes. Exactly big guys put so much strain on their feet, joints and back it does not take big things to really impact them. It would be pretty cool (but highly unlikely) If DD opts out and then resigned with T.O. | ||
cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
On July 21 2018 01:41 Soularion wrote: Big men fall off really quick. Howard was 27 when he had his Lakers season. Alonzo Mourning was done at 30. Noah went from 13/11/5 DPOY to 7/10/5 and not even being an all-star. Anyway, Ujiri himself explains it as changing circumstances, which I believe whole-heartedly. Stuff moves fast in the NBA. I figure they led DeRozan on because they didn't think they could land Kawhi, and then that changed. It's how it goes. Ehh. Isn't it just that some NBA players fall off really quick? Kareem played forever, Duncan was still a top 3 big man when he retired, KG tailed off nicely, etc. Lots of guys fall off cliffs, like Melo, and its basically a point guard trope Isaih Thomas (both). | ||
JimmiC
Canada22810 Posts
On July 21 2018 02:09 cLutZ wrote: Ehh. Isn't it just that some NBA players fall off really quick? Kareem played forever, Duncan was still a top 3 big man when he retired, KG tailed off nicely, etc. Lots of guys fall off cliffs, like Melo, and its basically a point guard trope Isaih Thomas (both). Probably right. I think it depends. Guys that have "post moves" They can play forever because they still have their height. But guys who use mostly their athleticism fall off. Like Mutumbo is the only guy I can think of that didn't have post moves who lasted. This is why some are concerned about Capela and DJ. But I mean you are right most everyone but hall of famers fall off ! And then there is LeBron who gets better like a fine wine! (or some sweet hgh) | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
Ibaka could just be Toronto's version of Ryan Braun for all we know. who knows. There is enough evidence out there and enough monetary motive to have questions though. On July 21 2018 01:41 Soularion wrote: Big men fall off really quick. Howard was 27 when he had his Lakers season. Alonzo Mourning was done at 30. Noah went from 13/11/5 DPOY to 7/10/5 and not even being an all-star. Anyway, Ujiri himself explains it as changing circumstances, which I believe whole-heartedly. Stuff moves fast in the NBA. I figure they led DeRozan on because they didn't think they could land Kawhi, and then that changed. It's how it goes. could be. that is definitely what Ujiri is trying to sell during this press conference. However, his body language is anything but confident. He refused to answer the direct question as to whether or not he promised Derozan he was not trading him. Have you ever seen Ujiri look this shaken in the past? i never have. Let's see what Derozan says in the future. If Derozan comes off 100% honest , sincere and confident and claims Ujiri stated specifically he was not being traded i'm inclined to believe Derozan. If Derozan backs off and says he was not specifically given those exact words then who knows... Hopefully, the players think Ujiri is, generally overall, an honest guy...look at what happened to Colangelo. | ||
funnybananaman
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Jerubaal
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cLutZ
United States19551 Posts
On July 21 2018 03:27 funnybananaman wrote: Adam silver and David stern have turned a once entertaiing league into a disaster with all these extra rules. Its a shame they were able to weasel their way to the top of the NBA managment snake. I do agree that Silver is pretty incompetent, but what is wrong with Stern? | ||
funnybananaman
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Jerubaal
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cLutZ
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The Ringer also abandoned comments, it made the site unreadable. | ||
Jerubaal
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