|
On September 13 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: whatever you are not getting majority on rels unless it is mafia, so take that into account, 100% truth. There are still 8 people left my dude...
|
I am sorry but what are you guys smoking? I am literally voting for someone i have pegged as mafia and i am being called out for it (regardless of my reasoning), just if i do vote for them, or if i dont. I think Kelsier is mafia. For Meapak i am mafia because i did not stick with my vote on Kelsier (which i gave reasoning for), and now i am mafia because i am voting for Kelsier (so i am sticking with it).
Why am i annoyed? Hmm.. idk, you fucking figure...
|
On September 13 2018 08:46 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2018 08:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: whatever you are not getting majority on rels unless it is mafia, so take that into account, 100% truth. There are still 8 people left my dude... yeah 3 of those are mafia and i am not so 4-4 ends up in either kelsier being scum or lose.
|
I am pretty close doing "my way or highway".
|
So think about it, i am going to sleep now.
|
One more thing, i am sorry if i offended someone. It was not my intention.
I just get really angry when someone tells me i am scum because i did a thing X and then i am scum because i did not do thing X, and i even can't throw it onto their face because i don't think they are mafia.
|
On September 13 2018 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sorry but what are you guys smoking? I am literally voting for someone i have pegged as mafia and i am being called out for it (regardless of my reasoning), just if i do vote for them, or if i dont. I think Kelsier is mafia. For Meapak i am mafia because i did not stick with my vote on Kelsier (which i gave reasoning for), and now i am mafia because i am voting for Kelsier (so i am sticking with it).
Why am i annoyed? Hmm.. idk, you fucking figure... For people who aren't rayn, here's the difference.
D2, there was almost no consolidation, if rayn had felt this strongly Kelsier was scum, a townie could have put in the effort to try and make a Kelsier lynch happen, the stakes were also lower as it was not lylo, and there was less information to make a decision. Instead rayn switched to damdred (thus indicating he thinks damdred is scummier) but also names rels as someone he'd vote for (thus suggesting rels is scummier as well).
D3, we're at lylo, we already know rayn thinks rels is as scummy as damdred (who he voted for over kelsier) but instead of voting for rels (who he indicated he would have voted for if others wanted to) he goes back to kelsier. The issue is the prioritization is wrong for a townie. He already indicated D2 he thought rels was scummier than Kelsier during the whole damdred lynch. Now that there are several people who also want to lynch rels, a townie would be happy to see their read is finally getting pushed. Instead we have this quasi meltdown over the kelsier vote which ends up sounding like cornered mafia.
The logic between D2 and D3 does not add up.
|
Doing a terrible job of stepping away from the thread, my bad, I'm gonna go get some beer.
|
Kelsier top 1 mafia Rels top 2 mafia Damdred top 2 mafia
I picked Damdred over Rels for the reasons i have staed D2.
Yes, it would be totally logical for me to vote for Rels now. You caught me, i was also roleblocker, RoL is the godfather and Rels is jsut vanilla mafia. You can confirm by a cop check.
|
I am sorry team i let you down.
|
I somehow messed up with my logic between D2 and D3, like a bolt struck me, shit i should call kitaman and tell him to cancel this game from the database.
|
I should just have sticked with Kelsier (town) over Damdred (town) so i should not have been seen as defending Vivax (town) into defending Rels (scum). Such a ploy i definitely needed to make happen so noone could catch me and Rels.
I am sorry Rels. I fucked up.
|
On September 13 2018 08:58 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2018 08:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am sorry but what are you guys smoking? I am literally voting for someone i have pegged as mafia and i am being called out for it (regardless of my reasoning), just if i do vote for them, or if i dont. I think Kelsier is mafia. For Meapak i am mafia because i did not stick with my vote on Kelsier (which i gave reasoning for), and now i am mafia because i am voting for Kelsier (so i am sticking with it).
Why am i annoyed? Hmm.. idk, you fucking figure... For people who aren't rayn, here's the difference. D2, there was almost no consolidation, if rayn had felt this strongly Kelsier was scum, a townie could have put in the effort to try and make a Kelsier lynch happen, the stakes were also lower as it was not lylo, and there was less information to make a decision. Instead rayn switched to damdred (thus indicating he thinks damdred is scummier) but also names rels as someone he'd vote for (thus suggesting rels is scummier as well). D3, we're at lylo, we already know rayn thinks rels is as scummy as damdred (who he voted for over kelsier) but instead of voting for rels (who he indicated he would have voted for if others wanted to) he goes back to kelsier. The issue is the prioritization is wrong for a townie. He already indicated D2 he thought rels was scummier than Kelsier during the whole damdred lynch. Now that there are several people who also want to lynch rels, a townie would be happy to see their read is finally getting pushed. Instead we have this quasi meltdown over the kelsier vote which ends up sounding like cornered mafia. The logic between D2 and D3 does not add up. You are an idiot. Nothing more, nothing less. Just an idiot. I have no intention in discussing anything with you, unfortunately i think you are town.
I think you should change your perspective when making scumreads. We will see if i was right or not. I know you are not. "Good luck".
|
ftr that was an indication i am not gonna waste time on this game anymore. just fyi
|
On September 13 2018 08:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2018 08:41 Qatol wrote: rayn, please calm down. There is no need to talk to anyone like that. All you do is make the game less fun for all of us. We are supposed to be a friendly community at the end of the day, or we don't wind up having a community at all.
[bAll he's asking you to do is vote for someone you already have pegged as scum.[/b Again, this is lylo. Town needs to vote overwhelmingly. ........................................... ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? I meant vote for rels and not kelsier. You said yourself you think rels is mafia, albeit your #2 read. However, this is lylo. We need to focus our votes. I get that you and Meapak are at odds right now. However, you both agree that rels is mafia. All I'm asking is that you follow your reads. Again, this is lylo.
|
With that, I unfortunately need to deal with RL stuff for the next day or so. All I can do is ask that town players consider the situation when making their vote. We cannot have the same type of vote that occurred days 1 and 2 happen again. A majority of 3 votes cannot happen.
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On September 12 2018 00:54 Vivax wrote: Qatol so far feels like he's furthering scum agenda and both NKs point heavily towards him. Koshi loved me for pointing out that I didn't like the way he was going after kaley, and HF also was rather sure he was mafia. Both died, and Qatols followup is to try and get a lynch on me going regardless. From a strategic perspective, both NKs are bad for me, he doesn't take that into account.
It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF.
Additionally, his confidence feels fake to me so far. I haven't been able to be confident about my reads and straightforward about what I want to do not cause I am mafia, but cause we had a lot of inactives for most of the game and that tells me that I have to be careful about whom I accuse since I can never exclude that mafia simply didn't post. It feels wrong to me to just look at the actives and find reasons to scumread them under these circumstances. But Qatol doesn't. Day 1 he easily finds reasons to vote off kaley, and D2 he easily sees it as an easy reason to go after me that I display this type of hesitance.
But as an active poster, I don't believe Qatol takes priority before Damdred, even though I see him working against me until the point he is lynched, should he not decide to let his scumread fall (which isn't implying that it would be a reason for me to retract my own read on him).
I'm thinking why vivax was killed, he was town read by some and scum read by some, however his major scum read after damdred was Qatol and only activity was saving him.
On September 13 2018 08:27 Qatol wrote: Just to be clear, ##vote Rels
On September 13 2018 08:26 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2018 08:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Vivax unfortunately doesn't give us much except for a scum read on Qatol. I'm torn between thinking he was killed for the rb claim or killed bc he had by far the most reasonable points against qatol. Nevertheless, I'm pretty comfortable I'm on the right track with at least my Rels read and rayn's insta vote on Kelsier looks fairly terrible. What "most reasonable points" against me? This is the type of post that gets everyone confused later (and mirrors the posts made about HF and Koshi, which lack real substance). Please point to a specific post if you're going to say this. Otherwise, it just turns into the same game of misguided telephone I've spent most of the game trying to defuse. Are you talking about post 333? As far as your Rels read goes, as I stated before, I'm inclined to agree.
On September 13 2018 07:05 Qatol wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2018 06:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 13 2018 06:53 Qatol wrote: rayn and meapak, I think you've reached the point of diminishing returns. Is either of you seriously pushing for the other as the lynch target for day 3 anyways? Remember, we have to coordinate our votes or the town loses.
On a side note, rayn, could you please call him prplhz and not purplehaze? It's hard to search your filter for your posts on him. Who's the scum team Qatol? If it's not Rels/Rayn/Sergio(vivax) then who have you got? I would actually be pretty comfortable lynching rayn at this point but I think rels is a much better option. I like prplhz for mafia. Your case on rels makes sense to me. I'm honestly not sure about the third one; this is where I had vivax. I think they have someone who noticed Koshi blueslipping, so it would have to be someone relatively perceptive. Rayn meets that criteria (and honestly, I think the town has already lost if rayn is red).
These quotes show he is setting himself up to lynch whatever AFK is town and win, which is at odds with his previous approach to not lynching AFK's.
These reason and night kill logic almost confirm qatol as mafia
##Vote: Qatol
|
United Kingdom10443 Posts
I probably won't be around today or at deadline because I have no interest in being there.
|
Wait a minute here
Is Holyflare the best player on the site?
|
#316
On September 11 2018 23:53 KelsierSC wrote: Nothing is happening in D2, literally no one is posting.
The only thing I have to work with is the Koshi night kill so I posted my thoughts on it, even asking for people to link me posts where koshi hinted at blue and I get called mafia and people saying "what the heck is this"
I am voting sergio at the start of the day because of the Koshi nightkill and my own thoughts on D1. I still have vivax as scum but im using the new information for my vote.
However as there hasn't been anything contributed this day and we have a bunch of AFK's i would rather lynch one of those NOW. I haven't unvoted sergio yet.
Here he says that he is voting for Sergovian but he's down with lynching into some AFK people semi randomly.
#327
On September 12 2018 00:40 KelsierSC wrote: I could lynch anyone apart from you and rayn.
Here he says kind of the same, he'll lynch anyone except "you" (Qatol) and raynpelikoneet.
#537
On September 13 2018 16:25 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2018 00:54 Vivax wrote: Qatol so far feels like he's furthering scum agenda and both NKs point heavily towards him. Koshi loved me for pointing out that I didn't like the way he was going after kaley, and HF also was rather sure he was mafia. Both died, and Qatols followup is to try and get a lynch on me going regardless. From a strategic perspective, both NKs are bad for me, he doesn't take that into account.
It's also been a while since HF got killed N1 simply cause HF is a player everyone who knows him is always paranoid about and he becomes a potential mislynch as the game goes on. So a Qatol made decision would fit here, simply cause he doesn't know enough about HF.
Additionally, his confidence feels fake to me so far. I haven't been able to be confident about my reads and straightforward about what I want to do not cause I am mafia, but cause we had a lot of inactives for most of the game and that tells me that I have to be careful about whom I accuse since I can never exclude that mafia simply didn't post. It feels wrong to me to just look at the actives and find reasons to scumread them under these circumstances. But Qatol doesn't. Day 1 he easily finds reasons to vote off kaley, and D2 he easily sees it as an easy reason to go after me that I display this type of hesitance.
But as an active poster, I don't believe Qatol takes priority before Damdred, even though I see him working against me until the point he is lynched, should he not decide to let his scumread fall (which isn't implying that it would be a reason for me to retract my own read on him). I'm thinking why vivax was killed, he was town read by some and scum read by some, however his major scum read after damdred was Qatol and only activity was saving him. Show nested quote +On September 13 2018 08:26 Qatol wrote:On September 13 2018 08:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Vivax unfortunately doesn't give us much except for a scum read on Qatol. I'm torn between thinking he was killed for the rb claim or killed bc he had by far the most reasonable points against qatol. Nevertheless, I'm pretty comfortable I'm on the right track with at least my Rels read and rayn's insta vote on Kelsier looks fairly terrible. What "most reasonable points" against me? This is the type of post that gets everyone confused later (and mirrors the posts made about HF and Koshi, which lack real substance). Please point to a specific post if you're going to say this. Otherwise, it just turns into the same game of misguided telephone I've spent most of the game trying to defuse. Are you talking about post 333? As far as your Rels read goes, as I stated before, I'm inclined to agree. Show nested quote +On September 13 2018 07:05 Qatol wrote:On September 13 2018 06:56 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 13 2018 06:53 Qatol wrote: rayn and meapak, I think you've reached the point of diminishing returns. Is either of you seriously pushing for the other as the lynch target for day 3 anyways? Remember, we have to coordinate our votes or the town loses.
On a side note, rayn, could you please call him prplhz and not purplehaze? It's hard to search your filter for your posts on him. Who's the scum team Qatol? If it's not Rels/Rayn/Sergio(vivax) then who have you got? I would actually be pretty comfortable lynching rayn at this point but I think rels is a much better option. I like prplhz for mafia. Your case on rels makes sense to me. I'm honestly not sure about the third one; this is where I had vivax. I think they have someone who noticed Koshi blueslipping, so it would have to be someone relatively perceptive. Rayn meets that criteria (and honestly, I think the town has already lost if rayn is red). These quotes show he is setting himself up to lynch whatever AFK is town and win, which is at odds with his previous approach to not lynching AFK's. These reason and night kill logic almost confirm qatol as mafia ##Vote: Qatol
Now suddenly he wants to lynch Qatol. Even though Qatol was one of the only two people he didn't want to lynch before and even though the reasonable (setting himself up to lynch semi-arbitrarily into AFK people) was the exact same thing as KelsierSC was doing.
Additionally, KelsierSC scumreads Qatol for the N1 kill on Koshi which really doesn't point to anyone.
I guess this is sort of what raynpelikoneet already complained about but I'm slow.
|
|
|
|