Power Rank 04/10/2009 - Page 14
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Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
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Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On April 30 2009 16:15 Samurai- wrote: Why would jaedong be #1 again? Fantasy, Bisu, Flash and specially Leta are all showing stronger play... Jaedong showed nothing special this month since his OSL win was already counted for the previous month.. edit: he even lost to fucking ganzi... Yeah but he hasn't been eliminated from either of the leagues. As Fakesteve says,he lost in games that don't really matter,and in games that mattered he won. You can't overthrow JD based on just Proleague performances,because they are always lying. | ||
Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
On April 30 2009 16:39 Darth Peter wrote: Yeah but he hasn't been eliminated from either of the leagues. As Fakesteve says,he lost in games that don't really matter,and in games that mattered he won. You can't overthrow JD based on just Proleague performances,because they are always lying. He lost in games that dont really matter? What? Am i missing something or there was only proleague where every game matters, MST where you cant be eliminated yet if you loose 1 game, but loosing to ganzi and being the best player doesnt go together, and you cant say game doesnt matter in MST.. Only GOM doesnt matter for me, but that is my personal opinion, and if you watch his games there they were nothing special, and he lost 1 game anyway.. You can't overthrow JD based on just Proleague performances,because they are always lying. WHAT? Everything counts, and MST and GOM is not only Proleague and how is Proleague performance lying? If there is only Proleague then you base your performance on proleague, or is better to say hmm he sux in proleague, but hey, this is false, we should base his performance on this invisible league where he should go 10:0 so he should be #1.. You just doesnt make sense.. | ||
Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On April 30 2009 16:51 Samurai- wrote: He lost in games that dont really matter? What? Am i missing something or there was only proleague where every game matters, MST where you cant be eliminated yet if you loose 1 game, but loosing to ganzi and being the best player doesnt go together, and you cant say game doesnt matter in MST.. Only GOM doesnt matter for me, but that is my personal opinion, and if you watch his games there they were nothing special, and he lost 1 game anyway.. WHAT? Everything counts, and MST and GOM is not only Proleague and how is Proleague performance lying? If there is only Proleague then you base your performance on proleague, or is better to say hmm he sux in proleague, but hey, this is false, we should base his performance on this invisible league where he should go 10:0 so he should be #1.. You just doesnt make sense.. Proleague is lying because there were many players who performed great in Proleague and sucked in MSL,OSL(Flash,Sea,Leta can be counted here too),and there were a lot of champions who sucked in Proleague(Luxury,Stork,Jaedong). I wanted to say that I will only count MST if he is eliminated. If he gets eliminated,he shouldn't be no1,but I couldn't care less if he qualifies 2:0 or 2:1.and lost to Ganzi,that is one game. He didn't play spectacular, or didn't do anything special but based on these games,you can't say yet that Fantasy or Bisu or Leta are better. And I care about Gom too,and he qualified there. | ||
Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
On April 30 2009 17:03 Darth Peter wrote: Proleague is lying because there were many players who performed great in Proleague and sucked in MSL,OSL(Flash,Sea,Leta can be counted here too),and there were a lot of champions who sucked in Proleague(Luxury,Stork,Jaedong). I wanted to say that I will only count MST if he is eliminated. If he gets eliminated,he shouldn't be no1,but I couldn't care less if he qualifies 2:0 or 2:1.and lost to Ganzi,that is one game. He didn't play spectacular, or didn't do anything special but based on these games,you can't say yet that Fantasy or Bisu or Leta are better. And I care about Gom too,and he qualified there. Then you are just wrong, your logic is wrong.. Everything matters.. Every game counts or there is no point in power rank at all... And how did Jaedong sucked in proleague ? Or bisu ? Its up to them where they put priority like stork said when he won his OSL that he didnt actually practice against kal in MSL . Come to think of it, you are horribly horribly wrong.. When flash won his OSL he was also completely destroying everyone in the proleague.. Leta also didnt suck in Starleague and until starleague came he was destroying everyone in proleague, and loosing to a MSL champion doesnt mean he sucked in MSL.. Just stop please.. | ||
Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On April 30 2009 17:45 Samurai- wrote: Then you are just wrong, your logic is wrong.. Everything matters.. Every game counts or there is no point in power rank at all... And how did Jaedong sucked in proleague ? Or bisu ? Its up to them where they put priority like stork said when he won his OSL that he didnt actually practice against kal in MSL . Come to think of it, you are horribly horribly wrong.. When flash won his OSL he was also completely destroying everyone in the proleague.. Leta also didnt suck in Starleague and until starleague came he was destroying everyone in proleague, and loosing to a MSL champion doesnt mean he sucked in MSL.. Just stop please.. I didn't talk about the OSL Champion Flash,I talked about the Flash of the last three seasons,when he dominated the proleague,and got eliminated from both leagues in the early stages. I am going back more in the past. It just seems that you are just looking to places where you can attack my arguments. If every game matters why does FS say that he played like total ass in games that don't really matter? When Jaedong qualified in the Arena MSL finals,he lost a great amount of games in PL and his stats were like this,and he got 1st place. Bisu also wasn't known for his Proleague performances during his first two MSL victories. I am just saying that Starleagues are above Proleague,and since Jaedong wasn't eliminated from either of them, it would be wrong to drop him,because even the previous months matter. If I remember well,Jangbi was no1 because he was the only player who was consistent in the last three months leading to the Power Rank. The only person I could imagine being changed with JD right now is Fantasy,but even that is premature. | ||
Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
On April 30 2009 18:09 Darth Peter wrote: I didn't talk about the OSL Champion Flash,I talked about the Flash of the last three seasons,when he dominated the proleague,and got eliminated from both leagues in the early stages. I am going back more in the past. It just seems that you are just looking to places where you can attack my arguments. If every game matters why does FS say that he played like total ass in games that don't really matter? When Jaedong qualified in the Arena MSL finals,he lost a great amount of games in PL and his stats were like this,and he got 1st place. Bisu also wasn't known for his Proleague performances during his first two MSL victories. I am just saying that Starleagues are above Proleague,and since Jaedong wasn't eliminated from either of them, it would be wrong to drop him,because even the previous months matter. If I remember well,Jangbi was no1 because he was the only player who was consistent in the last three months leading to the Power Rank. The only person I could imagine being changed with JD right now is Fantasy,but even that is premature. Attack your arguments ? I could say it is you who attack mine, since you replied to my quotes.. Anyway. You said that Proleague results = lie. You cant say this holds for only few months, and only for certain players... It either holds or doesnt, and in your case it doesnt.. Yes every game matters but because of lack of time, they must prioritize, but the game still matters.. And if starleague are above proleague ( and i dont say its not, it probably should be, so it matters even more), as you say, then jeadong who lost to GANZI is even worse.. And there is a difference if you qualify 2:0 owning good people or qualify 2:1 barely beating people and loose to ganzi.. To me, jaedong just didnt show enough results to still be first.. But that is just me.. But since the rank is not up to me, i ll stop here.. | ||
Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On April 30 2009 18:18 Samurai- wrote: Attack your arguments ? I could say it is you who attack mine, since you replied to my quotes.. Anyway. You said that Proleague results = lie. You cant say this holds for only few months, and only for certain players... It either holds or doesnt, and in your case it doesnt.. Yes every game matters but because of lack of time, they must prioritize, but the game still matters.. And if starleague are above proleague ( and i dont say its not, it probably should be, so it matters even more), as you say, then jeadong who lost to GANZI is even worse.. And there is a difference if you qualify 2:0 owning good people or qualify 2:1 barely beating people and loose to ganzi.. To me, jaedong just didnt show enough results to still be first.. But that is just me.. But since the rank is not up to me, i ll stop here.. Fair enough. | ||
StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
If jaedong keeps 50% winningpercentage then ofcourse he can't be nr1 no matter what games he lose. | ||
EvoChamber
France2505 Posts
On April 30 2009 19:17 StylishVODs wrote: We have like another 15 days before the rank is out so speculating about ranks now is abit early imo. If jaedong keeps 50% winningpercentage then ofcourse he can't be nr1 no matter what games he lose. I admire your optimism, Stylish. | ||
Geo.Rion
7375 Posts
Poll: The new PR will come out on: (Vote): 1st - 3rd of May (Vote): 4th - 6th of May (Vote): 7th - 9th of May (Vote): 10th - 15th of May (Vote): later... (Vote): in June | ||
arbiter_md
Moldova1219 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Jangbi lost to PuMa. "Who the fuck is PuMa?" you may ask. Well, he's a terran from eSTRO. Are you fucking kidding me? You can't be one of the best PvTers on the planet if you drop a Bo3 vs. a no name terran from eSTRO... Frankly, after a shitty month in proleague and now this, I'd drop Jangbi off the goddamn power rank. Great lost to a no name terran from MBC (kkong). Calm lost to HoGiL I guess neither of these are killer or anything, but considering that ZerO, Effort, and TheZerg didn't choke in their groups and are still alive in the OSL, I think it gives them an upper hand in the new wave of up and coming Zergs. sKyHigh lost to Canata. I suppose this isn't terrible, since Canata's a pretty damn respectable TvTer (57.14%), but it's definitely disappointing to me and I think will hurt his ranking. Other people who scrubbed out: Mind HiyA Free ForGG sAviOr Sea Nada Much Firebathero sigh... | ||
SerpentFlame
408 Posts
On April 30 2009 17:03 Darth Peter wrote: And I care about Gom too,and he qualified there. Say that to SKT1. Since when did anyone have to qualify to play in GOM? On May 02 2009 00:32 Mogwai wrote: offline OSL qualifiers spoiler: + Show Spoiler + Jangbi lost to PuMa. "Who the fuck is PuMa?" you may ask. Well, he's a terran from eSTRO. Are you fucking kidding me? You can't be one of the best PvTers on the planet if you drop a Bo3 vs. a no name terran from eSTRO... Frankly, after a shitty month in proleague and now this, I'd drop Jangbi off the goddamn power rank. Great lost to a no name terran from MBC (kkong). Calm lost to HoGiL I guess neither of these are killer or anything, but considering that ZerO, Effort, and TheZerg didn't choke in their groups and are still alive in the OSL, I think it gives them an upper hand in the new wave of up and coming Zergs. sKyHigh lost to Canata. I suppose this isn't terrible, since Canata's a pretty damn respectable TvTer (57.14%), but it's definitely disappointing to me and I think will hurt his ranking. Other people who scrubbed out: Mind HiyA Free ForGG sAviOr Sea Nada Much Firebathero sigh... Well if you do knock him off, then who's gonna take his place? A lot of other PRers have also basically dropped off the face of the Earth this month. | ||
Darth Peter
Romania438 Posts
On May 02 2009 08:46 SerpentFlame wrote: Say that to SKT1. Since when did anyone have to qualify to play in GOM? Well if you do knock him off, then who's gonna take his place? A lot of other PRers have also basically dropped off the face of the Earth this month. He beat Movie in Gom. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
#1 fantasy #2 Jaedong #3 Bisu #4 Flash #5 Zero #6 Leta + others | ||
disciple
9069 Posts
On May 02 2009 22:14 Plexa wrote: Next month imo we should see #1 fantasy #2 Jaedong #3 Bisu #4 Flash #5 Zero #6 Leta + others Agreed. But lets first see if JD and Flash will make it to the MSL. Not that I doubt it, but if one of them fails, I think it should be rank affecting | ||
Avidkeystamper
United States8551 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5676 Posts
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StalkerSC
Canada378 Posts
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