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+ Show Spoiler +On July 22 2010 10:06 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote + *7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban) 7] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser, DarthThienAn) 6] chaoser ( youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~) 2] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divinek) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum,lakrismamma)
* = first in case of a tie not voting:double lynch: Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 10:00 Divinek wrote:you have a 1 beside amber when it should be 2 and you spelled my name wrong A thousand pardons effendi! Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 10:00 SiNiquity wrote: You've got 7 people on Subversion but the tally at 8. Good catch thanks. yea you did. See BB and Amber.
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On July 22 2010 10:21 DarthThienAn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 22 2010 10:06 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote + *7] DarthThienAn (d3_crescentia, Pyrrhuloxia, XeliN, zeks, Subversion, LaXerCannon, rastaban) 7] Subversion (tree.hugger, bumatlarge, jayme, Amber[LighT], Pandain, chaoser, DarthThienAn) 6] chaoser ( youngminii, Roffles, SouthRawrEa, misder, citi.zen, BrownBear) 3] Brownbear (Divinek, tricode, ~opz~) 2] Amber[LighT] (BloodyC0bbler, Divinek) Abstain: (SiNiquity, Protactinium, Infundibulum,lakrismamma)
* = first in case of a tie not voting:double lynch: Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 10:00 Divinek wrote:you have a 1 beside amber when it should be 2 and you spelled my name wrong A thousand pardons effendi! Show nested quote +On July 22 2010 10:00 SiNiquity wrote: You've got 7 people on Subversion but the tally at 8. Good catch thanks. yea you did. See BB and Amber.
Lol that is so sad I was looking at your tally when I double checked. Good eye. do you mind clarifying if which one currently would be lynched if the tie holds?
Thanks
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lol, now the other 2 suspects have joined forces to oust me.
Guys please wake up. Literally the only valid suspicion on me, is some stupid remark. We've got to stop banging that drum.
Please can we pick a valid target. To be honest, I don't like this vote at all. I'm not particularly convinced that chaoser and DTA are scum at all. Although if I had to choose, I'd choose DTA.
But really, I am not the right person to lynch here. When you find out I'm not scum, what information are you going to gain from that?
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On July 22 2010 10:28 Subversion wrote: lol, now the other 2 suspects have joined forces to oust me.
Guys please wake up. Literally the only valid suspicion on me, is some stupid remark. We've got to stop banging that drum.
Please can we pick a valid target. To be honest, I don't like this vote at all. I'm not particularly convinced that chaoser and DTA are scum at all. Although if I had to choose, I'd choose DTA.
But really, I am not the right person to lynch here. When you find out I'm not scum, what information are you going to gain from that?
Have you seen this?
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im totally game for saving darth's ass though if it comes down to it just because he's been sending me sexual messages via pm
but ill only vote for sub if it's necessary because i see him as more useful for us to lynch than darth at this point(info etc), since i think it's reasonable for either of them to be red it's all about convincing then and sub has convinced me to be more red than darth so far
even if darth is being a silly billy, i have faith he'll help us the next day or die
so is darth on the block if it's a tie right now or what?
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Yeah, I've read it.
I don't really buy it though. I don't think youngminii has been any kind of vehement supporter of mine. I don't really feel anyone has consistently supported me, although many people have pointed out that I'm most likely innocent.
And the reason about my day 1 vote is stupid. He wrote that as if he hasn't read my posts and posts a defending that. Posts which really made perfect sense. The only reason my vote looked suspicious at all was because people fucked up the count.
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then again maybe darth has been being much less than useful on the very idea that it'd gain us nothing to lynch him lol, thus we wouldnt, but i consider this a minor point at this stage
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On July 22 2010 10:31 Divinek wrote: im totally game for saving darth's ass though if it comes down to it just because he's been sending me sexual messages via pm
O.O
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On July 22 2010 10:31 Divinek wrote: im totally game for saving darth's ass though if it comes down to it just because he's been sending me sexual messages via pm
but ill only vote for sub if it's necessary because i see him as more useful for us to lynch than darth at this point(info etc), since i think it's reasonable for either of them to be red it's all about convincing then and sub has convinced me to be more red than darth so far
even if darth is being a silly billy, i have faith he'll help us the next day or die
so is darth on the block if it's a tie right now or what? Pretty sure the last vote change is darth going chaoser to subversion so darth is on the block. He's not gonna help us tonight if blue he's gonna put a bomb on some innocent he's probably never mentioned and then deaths everywhere.
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On July 22 2010 09:00 tree.hugger wrote: This is the stupidest thing, pretty much ever.
Is there evidence against chaoser? Nobody can really explain what it is. Is there evidence against DTA? Hardly. Is there evidence against Subversion? Yes, there is.
1) Subversion voted at the last minute to lynch someone who's bandwagon was pathetic from the start, and really had nothing behind it. But the real significance of that vote, was that it saved someone else (youngminii). We didn't know about it at the time, because BM's count was off, but the mafia (assuming for a moment that youngminii is red) would clearly have a much more accurate count. They might've assumed that BM's vote count would be a cover, but at any rate they needed to make sure to save their own member.
2) Subversion's post, in which he commented on how well the mafia were doing was (a) not true, and (b) something that I don't think I've ever heard anyone innocent ever say in a game of mafia. That's something I can see a new mafia member thinking a townie would say, but that's not something a townie would actually say.
Furthermore, lynching Subversion just makes plain sense from a town perspective. A whole host of people have put their reputations on the line to save Subversion. Nobody has said anything in chaoser's defense. Nobody has said anything in DTA's defense. They've been left to defend themselves, and, apparently to some people that looks guilty.
What does that mean? Aside from being absurdly suspicious, if we lynch Subversion, then we gain a ton of information. If Subversion flips red, then we catch youngminii right off the bat. citi.zen has been defending Subversion nearly every post he gets, albeit a little more subtlety. Almost everyone in the game is on record saying something about Subversion, which means that if we lynch him, we get to figure out who was right, and who was wrong and proceed from there.
None of the other lynch candidates are even close to as valuable as Subversion. If we lose another day lynching people who aren't mafia, then we're going to be in trouble. YoungMini has put his reputation on the line for DTA...Give me a sec...I'll link it.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=133561¤tpage=44#873
Now shush.
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
When does day end again? 12:00 KST?
Cause something someone said makes me wanna change my vote, I just wanna see how much time I have left to ponder about my decision.
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+ Show Spoiler +On July 20 2010 22:59 bumatlarge wrote:Poor brownbear, suprised only one person is calling out darth for his posting youd think mafia would jump on the chance of a towny greenclaiming Godfather. Unless hes mafia, then it all makes sense. You may argue that D3 could be scum, but would you really run head first into a vote as mafia without trying to at least convince someone that certain posting is detrimental. And if darth is red, then divinek is an easy pick after. I mean, hell why not lynch everyone darth has accused after. I think he might be trying to get caught. I see no traitor role. If you agree with me I suggest ignoring everything darth says after this. ##Vote DarthThienAn For Pyrr since I noticed this post while going through to do my own vote tally. To accuse me would draw attention to that mafia member for calling someone out on something that is so obviously a joke / invalid evidence. I've never said that d3 is scum. I'm implied that he should be posting more than he is, but other than that, I've never said anything one way or the other about him. My votes for him have been purely for entertainment value. Your argument to lynch me is... because you don't understand my posting behavior. You should start talking to Pyrr. Pyrr, I'm not sure why I should have replied to this seriously, if at all. Maybe you can paraphrase it to make it coherent?
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voting ends in 22 minutes.
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as it stands DTA was first to reach 7? Or subversion?
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Edit: Removed because what I wrote made no sense.
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Look, I've already softclaimed blue.
Which was obviously a mistake since I gave mafia information, I was told that was stupid via PM and I agree.
It is NOT useful to lynch someone who has a valuable town skill!
I guarantee you lynching me is not going to give you information, and is really going to set you back. Please fucking think about this now. I am NOT the best candidate. Lynching me is hugely risky, on account that I am telling the truth.
Things we know about me:
Claim blue Am noob - 1st mafia game essentially Vote based on one stupid remark, and a well defended day 1 vote
Things we know about DTA:
Claims not mafia, no claim of anything useful Highly skilled and experienced player Vote based on detailed post analysis and him playing out of character
You lynch me, and I'm mafia, then you "apparently" have youngminii too. Any mafia is good so thats okay, although I disagree about youngminii. I really don't feel he's been a major supporter of mine. You lynch me, and I'm innocent, you lose a blue player, and gain zero information.
You lynch DTA and he's mafia, then you have chaoser too. Since they did a little band together and vote for me trick, and chaoser seemed to jumkp on my bandwagon awfully fast. You also lynch a highly skilled and threatening player. You lynch him and he's innocent, you lose a vanilla townie who doesn't seem to be putting much effort into the game anyway, based on what people expect from him due to prior games.
I am NOT the best lynch candidate, and the evidence against me is dismal.
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On July 22 2010 10:39 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: voting ends in 22 minutes.
Nah, ends at 12.
At least not in 22 minutes.
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On July 22 2010 10:38 DarthThienAn wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On July 20 2010 22:59 bumatlarge wrote:Poor brownbear, suprised only one person is calling out darth for his posting youd think mafia would jump on the chance of a towny greenclaiming Godfather. Unless hes mafia, then it all makes sense. You may argue that D3 could be scum, but would you really run head first into a vote as mafia without trying to at least convince someone that certain posting is detrimental. And if darth is red, then divinek is an easy pick after. I mean, hell why not lynch everyone darth has accused after. I think he might be trying to get caught. I see no traitor role. If you agree with me I suggest ignoring everything darth says after this. ##Vote DarthThienAn For Pyrr since I noticed this post while going through to do my own vote tally. To accuse me would draw attention to that mafia member for calling someone out on something that is so obviously a joke / invalid evidence. I've never said that d3 is scum. I'm implied that he should be posting more than he is, but other than that, I've never said anything one way or the other about him. My votes for him have been purely for entertainment value. Your argument to lynch me is... because you don't understand my posting behavior. You should start talking to Pyrr. Pyrr, I'm not sure why I should have replied to this seriously, if at all. Maybe you can paraphrase it to make it coherent? I do think it is incoherent, I was more non-plussed that you responded to that and to the vote by zeks, when misder and I had already made better explanations that you didn't respond to until late today.
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On July 22 2010 10:41 Pandain wrote:Nah, ends at 12. At least not in 22 minutes.
Oh I saw this:
"day ends in 2 hours and 49 minutes and around 14 seconds... er make that 48 minutes and 40 seconds... you get the drift"
And thought that meant 48 minutes left lol.
So maybe there is 2:12 left?
lol
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On July 22 2010 10:39 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: voting ends in 22 minutes.
On July 22 2010 10:10 Bill Murray wrote: day ends in 2 hours and 49 minutes and around 14 seconds... er make that 48 minutes and 40 seconds... you get the drift
at 10:10 he said +2:49 thus it ends at 1:00 according to BM unlses he lied to us
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