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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Fact is though, I'm pretty relaxed because I'm pretty sure that with arguments like these, the Mafia will be strolling through this game easy peasy. And since most of you are so fond of ifs and maybes, here's a question for you: If you were Mafia, how would you act towards my role-claim? Both you (Dr.H) and L. Is the answer "Exactly like we did so far, so that the town will get rid of you and we don't have to waste a role-blocker and a hit for one person"? Just asking. | ||
L
Canada4732 Posts
On November 03 2010 06:18 CubEdIn wrote: No, you just don't seem to understand me. I'm not being defensive because I fear death. Because that would prove my claim and incriminate you (since you went, are still going to great lengths to make your point). I'm being defensive because I don't think you're mafia, and I think your theories are hurting the town, making you a bad player in this case (because I agreed to some of your other posts, so I'm not saying you're a bad player in general). Here, let me add one to your list: 1) you're flat out lying 2) you're hiding something because you're worried mafia could exploit a part of your role 3) there's some kind of third party that interacts with your choices. 4) you're telling the truth, and i've pretty much insulted the mods for coming up with this "dumb" role Are you even considering that one? Do you have at least a 20% shadow of a doubt in your mind that you might just be wrong with this one? No shadow of doubt. Mods aren't idiots. They aren't the only ones who look at the game content either; there's a balance group that discusses game formats and certain players will get asked to look over the role format prior to game starts for balance if they aren't playing. Dunno if you've ever been called to give commentary about how a game setup looks, but I have. I can't imagine a role like this getting through 6+ people without being flagged as garbage. As for the theories are 'hurting' the town. If you're not bullshitting me, I've given mafia the incentive to stay off you in the hopes that I continue pushing you. If you are bullshitting me, you can be 100% certain I'm not hurting town by calling out a shitty roleclaim. I'm pretty sure the only thing the theories have done is force you post and get people to think critically about what you've actually said. That's bad why? If you're like 75% certain you're going to self prot, even the attention focus on you leading into night plays into proper play. Its pretty clear you're trying to backpedal the fuck outta this conversation, so feel free to just stop replying. You really aren't doing yourself favors with these posts :/. | ||
Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On November 03 2010 06:37 CubEdIn wrote: I'm not blaming you, but there was no other person I trusted more. Fact is though, I'm pretty relaxed because I'm pretty sure that with arguments like these, the Mafia will be strolling through this game easy peasy. And since most of you are so fond of ifs and maybes, here's a question for you: If you were Mafia, how would you act towards my role-claim? Both you (Dr.H) and L. Is the answer "Exactly like we did so far, so that the town will get rid of you and we don't have to waste a role-blocker and a hit for one person"? Just asking. I'm just explaining my reasoning for not necessarily trusting you, I'm not accusing you of being scum. | ||
L
Canada4732 Posts
Fact is though, I'm pretty relaxed because I'm pretty sure that with arguments like these, the Mafia will be strolling through this game easy peasy. WAT. | ||
L
Canada4732 Posts
On November 03 2010 06:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: CubEdIn originally roleclaimed only to me. After I told him PMs were illegal and that I had to report him he roleclaimed to the whole town. Much easier to make up a role to trick one person than it is to make up a role to trick the whole town no? It also seems inconsistent with the idea that "I can roleclaim because mafia know I'm the medic anyway", since why wouldn't he just roleclaim to the town right off the bat? WAT. | ||
CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Not focusing blame on reds, is pretty hurtful to the town. Playing based on intuition and "this role can't possibly exist in insane mafia", is hurtful to the town. And yeah, with players like you in the front lines, the Mafia has a STRONG chance of winning. I've been saying this for a long time now, it's no news. In fact, the more you assure me that you're confident in your guess, the more I look forward to dying due to your accusations, just to see how you're gonna backpedal your way out of that one. You're probably going to blame mods for creating this dumb role, and say that your reasoning was foolproof, but it's not your fault that my role was this crappy. Good luck with that! | ||
L
Canada4732 Posts
I seriously don't see how you have a 'high chance of being blue". You made a claim out of the blue and tried to use it to get in with the mayor. | ||
LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
I also found out that my knowledge of how bodyguard works was incorrect. There goes half of my reasoning behind lynching Aeres. DrH's reply to Pandain is logical and I don't believe that Pandain is try to twist your word to make you look scum. I think he is misinform about your ability to semi prove that a person is town or mafia (heck. I was confused about your ability before that reply of yours). Now for who I should vote (does it matter at this point?) Youngminii - No one reply to my post that was made 2 hours before about how Infinitestory's post depicts why youngminii gunning for Aeres is scummy. As of now, he somehow escaped lynching (from the things happened in this game, this is not the most crazy thing). When asked about his role, he refuse to say much except that he is blue... Aeres - He was my prime target but after I found out about what bodyguards really do, I drop most of my claim that it is beneficial for mafia to roleclaim bodyguard when they are willing to roleblock mayor every night. The reason left over is he lied about being a bodyguard. Divinek - he is being targeted because of inactiveness... won't modkill do the work? CubEdIn - There's not much information about him. He did role claim as doctor right? If that is true, someone needs to protect him and speak up in the future if their night protection worked. If not, he will end up dead. I still don't have a strong opinion on who is mafia. I do agree that lying is pretty bad. If mafia can get away with a exposed fake roleclaim, then they can do it again (especially in this game where they can make up role). Also, I do agree that we will be talking about Aeres for the rest of the game if it is not resolved today. Because there is a lack of clear target for today, I believe we can use it to clear out this confusion. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 03 2010 06:46 CubEdIn wrote: Yeah, L, you keep saying that you're not hurting the town, but to me, pushing people towards someone who has a high chance of being blue (even though, not in your eyes), is pretty hurtful to the town. Not focusing blame on reds, is pretty hurtful to the town. Playing based on intuition and "this role can't possibly exist in insane mafia", is hurtful to the town. And yeah, with players like you in the front lines, the Mafia has a STRONG chance of winning. I've been saying this for a long time now, it's no news. In fact, the more you assure me that you're confident in your guess, the more I look forward to dying due to your accusations, just to see how you're gonna backpedal your way out of that one. You're probably going to blame mods for creating this dumb role, and say that your reasoning was foolproof, but it's not your fault that my role was this crappy. Good luck with that! I propose inferiority complex: CubEdln L Remind me CubEdln, was the color of the pill you chose blue or red? | ||
CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
You asked me to stop posting, but I want you to really get involved in this, so if what I say turns out to be right, then you will have a LOT harder time of clearing your name. I don't mind being lynched, but you're not getting away with being just an instigator. I want you to be sort-of the hangman, so that I'm not being lynched in vain. That is, of course, if you can get enough people to believe in your argument which relies mostly on "your role is too dumb to be true". | ||
deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On November 03 2010 06:51 L wrote: Okay, so volunteer yourself to die. You basically just got revealed to have cheated, lied about why you roleclaimed, and admitted you're cool with the prospect of mafia steamrolling the game. I seriously don't see how you have a 'high chance of being blue". You made a claim out of the blue and tried to use it to get in with the mayor. I think you are overreacting on this matter. You missed the start of the game and obviously you haven't caught up properly at all. He PM'd Dr. H without realising it was against the rules, and that was all cleared up ages ago. Mods know about it etc. In case you haven't noticed this is INSANE mafia, There are going to be some weird nonsensical roles. Considering there is up to thirty nine different roles to come up with, not everything is going to be scrutinized and perfectly balanced. | ||
L
Canada4732 Posts
Otherwise: toodles. | ||
CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
I don't advise people protecting me, since I'll most likely self-protect until I see someone worth protecting. Unless you think Mafia will waste both role-block and a kill point on me, in which case, I wouldn't mind. @ kita Lol. It was the red pill. Red = Doctor, Blue = Townie. | ||
Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On November 03 2010 06:57 L wrote: I'm super disappointed that I need to take off, but don't be too Romanian while i'm gone, cube. If your English is making you say dumb stuff, proof read before posting. Otherwise: toodles. WTF does that mean. I know I made some mistakes but I can't edit my post. However, I doubt I've gone so far as to be "misunderstood" due to my English. Besides, I'm pretty sure my English is far better than your Romanian. | ||
L
Canada4732 Posts
On November 03 2010 06:55 CubEdIn wrote: Volunteer myself? So that the blame of killing a doctor will be lifted off your shoulders. Yeah. Sure! You asked me to stop posting, but I want you to really get involved in this, so if what I say turns out to be right, then you will have a LOT harder time of clearing your name. I don't mind being lynched, but you're not getting away with being just an instigator. I want you to be sort-of the hangman, so that I'm not being lynched in vain. That is, of course, if you can get enough people to believe in your argument which relies mostly on "your role is too dumb to be true". If you volunteer yourself to die to show your colour, its pretty obvious I'll be heavily implicated, which is fantastic because if you're not lying and are just intensely inept, you'll have gotten 2 blues killed, then 6 from mafia, and i'm pretty sure if we have 3 infections per day that we'll be a day away from m-rus popping. Add in modkills and the game's done. Don't see why a townie would be jonesing for the opportunity to lose the game, but whatever, you don't seem to think too much before posting. And away I go. | ||
deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On November 03 2010 07:02 KtheZ wrote: #vote Aeres Looks like we have another lurker again | ||
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