If so, I'd love to see IM make a presence ... hehehe. They as a team really impressed me in the team league.
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
If so, I'd love to see IM make a presence ... hehehe. They as a team really impressed me in the team league. | ||
Gr33d
Germany423 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
I dont know, I've never heard players/teams request group/bracket layouts to avoid team kills. Seems like a natural thing which happens every now and then, no big deal. And if team kills would be made possible due to seeding, the 5player per team rule gets kind of unnecessary. | ||
hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On February 22 2011 18:51 Gr33d wrote: Whats up with this Zerker guy? I don't know him but ofc he can still be a very strong player but every refresh he gets 8-10 votes while other players barely get them. Smells like somekind of script. It probably is Every e-sports event with a community voting aspect I can think of has been ruined by bot voting | ||
Scorch
Austria3371 Posts
- Who sponsors this event? 400,000$ is a huge sum. - What's with the player voting process and how does it influence who gets to play? Is the group phase basically an invitational based on voting popularity? - What's the purpose of the 5 players per team rule? Doesn't that exclude some great players from the big teams, for example Haypro? - What's the prize distribution? How much does the first place finisher get? Great announcement, I hope the league turns out well. | ||
svperstar
Sweden60 Posts
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Pcl.Busted
United States17 Posts
On February 22 2011 18:32 mufin wrote: meh I don't feel its racist at all. It just goes to show that we are all human and we can't look at everything objectively all the time. Don't get me wrong, I watched the gsl since season 1 and not only did I have blast, I also learned a hell of a lot about korean culture. But on the other hand, I also watched foreign events such as MLG and ESL and I feel its just a better experience when you can identify with the players through their tone of voice and body language. It gives a sense of belonging rather than feeling like an outsider looking through the glass of a translator. In the future, I believe the community will cheer for players representing their nationality just as they would in the Olympics. Unfortunately for now, the sc2 scene is summed up as koreans vs everyone else. When the western scene gets more established, I feel that "everyone else" is going to be further divided amongst the different nationalities and the diversity of the community will start to play a bigger part. Those arguments seem more rational, I guess I like the best possible competition over anything else but your points are also valid. | ||
kazansky
Germany931 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On February 22 2011 15:21 mufin wrote: Yea and what happens when 30+ koreans decide to move over and take over the top 16 of the tournament. You now have a north american tournament filled with all korean players. Does that sound like a good way to get western esports on the right track? People want to watch players they can connect with; players that share their same culture and language. The league's purpose is to create the competitive environment needed for the west to catch up to the korean scene, not to determine who the best korean is. Think of it as just one giant TSL tournament. Then it's the same as feamale gaming. "We can't compete so we get our own leagues where we can win" Who watches that? No one Koreans being good is a terrible argument against them being allowed to play Same deal with teams. The best players should play, regardless of what team they're on. Who wants to watch a worse player because he's on a different team? | ||
The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
It's an online tournament until the last 16, where it's a LAN. Obviously because in Korea, it's alright to do a month long LAN because all the progamers live in the same place. Anyone who can't see a problem with doing that in America didn't think for more than 3 seconds. As for the casters, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the fact is that anyone who disagrees that Inc and Gretorp are awesome is wrong. That's right, you are entitled to your wrong opinion. | ||
Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On February 22 2011 19:12 The KY wrote: I can't believe anyone thought this was underwhelming...what more did you want? An exact carbon copy of the GSL? Tip; if you wanna watch the GSL, just watch the GSL. It's an online tournament until the last 16, where it's a LAN. Obviously because in Korea, it's alright to do a month long LAN because all the progamers live in the same place. Anyone who can't see a problem with doing that in America didn't think for more than 3 seconds. As for the casters, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the fact is that anyone who disagrees that Inc and Gretorp are awesome is wrong. That's right, you are entitled to your wrong opinion. I want a non Jtv stream so us Europeans with 30 mbit connections can actually enjoy the livestream without lag. | ||
CursedRich
United Kingdom737 Posts
On February 22 2011 19:12 The KY wrote: I can't believe anyone thought this was underwhelming...what more did you want? An exact carbon copy of the GSL? Tip; if you wanna watch the GSL, just watch the GSL. It's an online tournament until the last 16, where it's a LAN. Obviously because in Korea, it's alright to do a month long LAN because all the progamers live in the same place. Anyone who can't see a problem with doing that in America didn't think for more than 3 seconds. As for the casters, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the fact is that anyone who disagrees that Inc and Gretorp are awesome is wrong. That's right, you are entitled to your wrong opinion. So are you and Ive worked in TV production for 8 years | ||
theBusiness
United States13 Posts
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Technique
Netherlands1542 Posts
On February 22 2011 19:16 Nizaris wrote: I want a non Jtv stream so us Europeans with 30 mbit connections can actually enjoy the livestream without lag. I got no problems with jtv. | ||
EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
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omgCRAZY
Canada551 Posts
On February 22 2011 16:36 betaV1.25 wrote: If i understand it correctly, start of the league we will have 50 players, and the final 16 will be in a sort of lan. All of this will be casted live. With this much money on the line, i dont see how they are gonna stop people from cheating while playing. Isnt it 2 easy to watch the stream and play at the same time? Justin.tv has stated that they are implementing a delay on the stream so someone watching the stream will be 5-10 minutes behind what is actually happening ingame. | ||
Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
i'm glad you don't. Plenty of ppl do. I was getting less then 1 frame per second with 20k viewers for yday's showmatch. Oh well illegal restreams ftw i guess..... | ||
shell
Portugal2722 Posts
On February 22 2011 11:06 ReachTheSky wrote: This is a north american starleague.......can't we just keep this to north americans? >< yeah man! very entertaining league you got there!! Idra, tyler, hmm who else? come on don't you want to see the best players in the world? maybe you also hate GSL for letting foreigners in their league... it's in Korea so it should only be played by koreans.. that's so stupid.. polularity contest was to let every famous player in so that they wouldn't be acused of helping out.. same with the 5 players per clan rule imo It shouldn't be 6 TL, 7 EG, 7 root, 8 mouz, 8 fnatic what would be the fun in that? i can't understand why a major league like this, that we can see really tried to branch out to everyone is being so attacked and questioned.. This is good news for us.. All we got to do is watch the games if we want to.. it's not like they are asking us for money! You care or you don't care but no one should bash the effort and dedication for the game that these guys have.. | ||
Barett
Canada454 Posts
On February 22 2011 19:12 The KY wrote: I can't believe anyone thought this was underwhelming...what more did you want? An exact carbon copy of the GSL? Tip; if you wanna watch the GSL, just watch the GSL. It's an online tournament until the last 16, where it's a LAN. Obviously because in Korea, it's alright to do a month long LAN because all the progamers live in the same place. Anyone who can't see a problem with doing that in America didn't think for more than 3 seconds. As for the casters, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the fact is that anyone who disagrees that Inc and Gretorp are awesome is wrong. That's right, you are entitled to your wrong opinion. I could not agree more. I just hope the production improves (Which it will) and they cast everything live. It was too obvious that they were casting from replays for the Clash of the Titans and it made it alot less exciting. They were off alot of the time on the timing. I'm super excited for this! The first couple seasons will probably be not the best, just like the GSL. But having a Star League in the US is a huge deal. Not to mention LA, the West Coast. You get mad support from me! | ||
eloist
United States1017 Posts
On February 22 2011 19:12 The KY wrote: I can't believe anyone thought this was underwhelming...what more did you want? An exact carbon copy of the GSL? Tip; if you wanna watch the GSL, just watch the GSL. It's an online tournament until the last 16, where it's a LAN. Obviously because in Korea, it's alright to do a month long LAN because all the progamers live in the same place. Anyone who can't see a problem with doing that in America didn't think for more than 3 seconds. As for the casters, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the fact is that anyone who disagrees that Inc and Gretorp are awesome is wrong. That's right, you are entitled to your wrong opinion. The only thing lifting this above any other community project that has been shown thus far is the prize pool. The big number at the end. That's it. It should be alright for people to be skeptical until we see more. Until production is at least on par with the often criticized GLHF.tv for instance. Until it becomes clear that the structure is as well thought out as the TSL. Until there is more to look at than a single HTML page. Until it's evident that someone is actually checking pre recorded footage for errors before broadcasting. | ||
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