Autotune - Should it be considered an art? - Page 5
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Maynarde
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Crazyeyes
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"Guns dont kill people, people do." | ||
Maxwell3
United States88 Posts
On April 10 2011 10:54 rocky13 wrote: Autotune is to music as steroids is to sports not quite but kind of ... So it's just a way to practice harder, boost your performance, and make you better at what you're doing? | ||
Sealteam
Australia296 Posts
Autotune can be used badly or used incredibly well, like any other instrument. To back my statement, here is an example of what I personally consider to be an excellent example of using autotune as a stylistic choice to (arguably) great effect. This piece of music is, in my mind, indubitably art, whether you personally enjoy it or not doesn't include or preclude it from being art. Bon Iver - Woods Linky Link Bon Iver doesn't use autotune in many songs, but when it is used it's not to cover weaknesses, check out the album For Emma, Forever Ago if you'd like some validation of Bon Iver as a bona fide musician. | ||
SwiftSpear
Canada355 Posts
I think part of the problem is we still have a music industry who worships singers and musicians, when so much of the real brilliance is the work of the guys behind mixing boards and computer screens these days, and those guys are making some ground shaking music. | ||
WniO
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mprs
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As a tool, by all means use it. A group like Daft Punk uses it and it goes well with their music. *Gulp* Even heartbreaks and 808s was done with autotune as the wanted product (or so the artist says... regardless, you can't deny that it did fit together nicely). But in Pop music, I have never said "well this artist was going for a shitty robot voice". Weather you differentiate between the two cases, it does not matter. My ears are used to hearing live voices with changes in pitch, tone, etc. When I hear auto-tuned stuff like Kesha, I don't see any artistry behind her singing or the way she communicates her music. The only thing you may call art is her lyrics which she probably doesn't write, and even if she did, it isn't stimulating in any way shape or form. | ||
moltenlead
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DystopiaX
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As for whether or not it's dead, I think the type of autotune where that's all that's going on is dead, but I think it'll always linger on occasionally for certain runs or whatnot. It's not going to be completely dead because it's a quick and easy way to make something sound different, but I think most people are past the point now where they're ok if autotune is the only standout feature in a song. | ||
billy5000
United States865 Posts
personally, i dislike the sounds made by pure auto tune (t pain, kesha, etc). but i think people in this thread need to realize they're bashing their own favorite artists/bands when they give autotune a bad name. ignorance is bliss..huehuehue! | ||
meegrean
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semantics
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Enki
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SwiftSpear
Canada355 Posts
On April 10 2011 14:54 moltenlead wrote: I think that autotuning could be an interesting dabble by an already established or capable artist to try out a new genre, but having artists autotune every single one of their songs........ well then they aren't or shouldn't be called artists. I'd disagree with this... but then, you have some distinctions to make. Is the "artist's" greatest selling point their vocals? Are they a singer, or a song writer, or a musician, or a mixer? I'd forgive Moby 100% of the time for using autotune should he so choose to, because what's good about his music was never his vocals, it was his sound, the bigger picture. Singing quality isn't what sells his songs, and never has been. The great vocals in his music, if there are any, aren't his anyways. If we're talking about generic Idol #4593, who has some douche bag pay writers 2 cents a word for song lyrics and tosses tracks through the mixing machine where some devry art institute music grad "masters" the track for 30 dollars an hour and a microprint credit on the back of the CD cover, then ya, I don't think what's going on there should be called art. It's pretty much McMusic. Not every artist who uses auto-tune fits into that category though, not even remotely. | ||
billy5000
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Wonderballs
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bjornkavist
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CursedRich
United Kingdom737 Posts
Vocoders are much cooler for using the voice as a synthesized sound, think Daft Punk and you should understand the difference | ||
Parsistamon
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NMC
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