Also, any comment on how much impact on flavor a burr grinder makes vs. blade? - presently I use a basic electric blade grinder and a french press, occasionally with an espresso maker. I understand the burr will give a more consistent grind but I have no idea how much difference that makes to the flavor of the end result.
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YaySC42
Canada19 Posts
Also, any comment on how much impact on flavor a burr grinder makes vs. blade? - presently I use a basic electric blade grinder and a french press, occasionally with an espresso maker. I understand the burr will give a more consistent grind but I have no idea how much difference that makes to the flavor of the end result. | ||
elgringo
United States28 Posts
On April 13 2011 23:59 Slardar wrote: Turkish Coffee so delicious such as espresso but alas, it's gone in a few sips. Not completely fulfilling, lately I've been digging the more sugary good stuff. Caramel Frapp Also - Happy bday to me! ^^ Turkish coffee is sooooo good. My girlfriend is Bosnian and she makes it for me all the time. | ||
teacash
Canada494 Posts
On April 14 2011 00:04 YaySC42 wrote: Any recommendations re: roasters in Vancouver, Canada? Also, any comment on how much impact on flavor a burr grinder makes vs. blade? - presently I use a basic electric blade grinder and a french press, occasionally with an espresso maker. I understand the burr will give a more consistent grind but I have no idea how much difference that makes to the flavor of the end result. If you're using good coffee, it will make a considerable difference. Blade grinders cut the coffee into random-sized chunks that don't extract well at all, and with a french press there will be excess fines that arent filtered out and so the coffee will continue to over-extract after it's been poured (more so than with properly ground coffee). Quality burr grinders basically shave the beans into better-sized particles resulting in more even extractions and it's a lot easier to adjust other variables (brew time and coffee amount) to get a better cup. As for roasters in Vancouver, it's basically the mecca of the canadian coffee world, so you'll do alright wherever you end up.. I'd recommend Caffe Artigiano, 49th Parallel, Elysian, Wicked, and Innocent | ||
HULKAMANIA
United States1219 Posts
On April 13 2011 23:53 teacash wrote: If being passionate about coffee and learning about coffee makes you smug, arrogant, and snobby, then can't you say that about anyone who is deeply interested in anything at all? Some people can be classified as pretentious or snobby, but having an interest in something doesn't make you such.. Being "passionate about coffee" does not make you a coffee snob. What makes you a coffee snob is doing things like denigrating an entire country of people because they don't happen to popularly consume your particular style of latte, which is what I think MiniRoman was reacting to. He may be right about coffee, in general, having an unusually high concentration of snobs as well. My own not-insignificant experience with coffee shops over the years (both as a customer and as an employee) leads me to think that coffee may spawn more than it's fair share of dickheads who are just looking for a chance to flaunt the superiority of their tastes. I mean it's basically a formula in coffee conversations. One person ventures an opinion. Other people immediately chime in: "Gah! You don't prepare your coffee in X device? AND/OR You don't buy from X roaster? AND/OR You don't serve your coffee in X style? You don't know what real coffee is!" Then the interminable debates ensue. In the end, though, I honestly sympathize with both of you in this debate. On the one hand, I really like coffee. My journey from drinking mostly sugar-cream with a little coffee in elementary school to enjoying a daily black iced coffee and the occasional espresso shot nowadays has been a genuinely enjoyable one for me. And yet I have come to really despise talking about coffee because you typically have to put up with so much pretense and priggishness to do it. So I mean I like the sincere coffee lovers out there. They're good folk. But I happen to think the coffee-snob haters out there have really good points as well. I guess that's life, though. What can you do? | ||
QuanticHawk
United States32009 Posts
On April 13 2011 23:48 MiniRoman wrote: Dude you're Canadian and he said in the states. I'm sure American's all love that shit. But as this quote proves, pretentious coffee fags come from all over the world. Why someone gets smug over coffee I have no idea. In highschool beerbongs made you king and now with the sophistication of university it's the ability to drink straight liqour with a straigther face. Coffee is a necessity, but it nothing to flaunt coolness about hipster fags. I'd just like to point out that drinking liquor normally has nothing to do with being a hipster and everything to do with being a MAN Starbucks is for fake hipsters anyway. The real deal hipsters find those little joints that no one knows about for added smuggness | ||
lowercase
Canada1047 Posts
On April 14 2011 00:04 YaySC42 wrote: Any recommendations re: roasters in Vancouver, Canada? Also, any comment on how much impact on flavor a burr grinder makes vs. blade? - presently I use a basic electric blade grinder and a french press, occasionally with an espresso maker. I understand the burr will give a more consistent grind but I have no idea how much difference that makes to the flavor of the end result. Vancouver can eat a dick 9 days out of 10, but they do make some great coffee. | ||
dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
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dogmeatstew
Canada574 Posts
A upscale cafe that we have in Edmonton uses some very (very) nice beans and a clover brewing contraption making each cup on its own. It makes absolutely amazing coffee, you put fresh grounds in a little cylinder on top which is filled with near boiling water (just cool enough to not burn the beans) and the grounds are sorta dunked in and out sort of like steeping tea. You have to try it to realise how good it makes coffee. [image blocked] ooo videos! On April 14 2011 00:04 YaySC42 wrote: Any recommendations re: roasters in Vancouver, Canada? Also, any comment on how much impact on flavor a burr grinder makes vs. blade? - presently I use a basic electric blade grinder and a french press, occasionally with an espresso maker. I understand the burr will give a more consistent grind but I have no idea how much difference that makes to the flavor of the end result. I believe metal blades can burn the beans a little bit but I don't have any sources on the matter though it seems like it makes sense. | ||
DragonDefonce
United States790 Posts
"Now, the machine itself costs 11 thousand dollars, which sounds expensive but basically what you are paying for is a team of stanford engineers to build this thing by hand". I wonder if that really is 11 thousand dollars or 1100 and he just made a mistake. | ||
Aruno
New Zealand748 Posts
I worked at AUT Auckland City for 1 year( 2009 ). Before that I didn't even drink coffee. But because I had to find work, I decided to just be a barista(I thought it might be easy). Luckly I was trained well and eventually after a couple months I was making coffee people would come back for and praise me for. One thing that I never really mastered ( and still want to master ). Was coffee art, or latte art. Example: | ||
dogmeatstew
Canada574 Posts
On April 14 2011 06:08 DragonDefonce wrote: dogmeatstew// that is some epic overkill machine lol. "Now, the machine itself costs 11 thousand dollars, which sounds expensive but basically what you are paying for is a team of stanford engineers to build this thing by hand". I wonder if that really is 11 thousand dollars or 1100 and he just made a mistake. Luckily for this discussion I've actually had this conversation with the baristas at Transcend (the place that has them) and they are in fact $11k... its pretty crazy. They do make a fantastic cup of coffee though and the cafe in question has 2 at each of their 3 locations heh, kind of insane. You pay for what you get though, I don't buy coffee from there often simply because a cup from that machine costs between $3 and $5 depending on what beans you want (which btw they have out so you can smell them and pick...). | ||
[Agony]x90
United States853 Posts
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Incognoto
France10234 Posts
On April 13 2011 22:54 mdb wrote: I love coffee. I use this to prepare it, I dont know how its called in english : That's what I use. So good. | ||
Kahzaar
Sweden897 Posts
On April 13 2011 22:40 Hittegods wrote: + = I buy the same coffee :D could use a new brewer though | ||
HULKAMANIA
United States1219 Posts
On April 14 2011 07:05 [Agony]x90 wrote: I'm not a coffee drinker, but coffee always looks/smells delicious. The taste is simply too strong for me . Milk or cream really mutes the bitterness of coffee. You could probably find that happy medium where the flavor you enjoy in the smell isn't overpowered by the strength of coffee-taste. I would try a flavored latte or a cafe au lait and go from there. Just a thought. I've been drinking coffee since before I could talk (I have a crazy grandmother who enjoyed the fact that I would help her drink her coffee when I was a wee lad). It still was a long time (I was in my early twenties) before I really developed a taste for pure, black coffee. If you like the idea of coffee and the aroma, I would say go ahead and dip your toes in, just don't try to rush your way into the chugging espresso shots overnight. I think you'll find that there is a wide variety of mild and sweet coffee drinks to enjoy as you gradually develop a taste for more concentrated varieties. | ||
JC0N
United States41 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
On April 13 2011 07:58 DragonDefonce wrote: I've recently started drinking coffee.... real coffee that is. Not the instant crap or the electric machine made: real, hand made, fresh coffee. And it is one of the most awesome things I have encountered. I am still very much a bronze to silver league coffee drinker. But I know that there must be some diamond/master level coffee drinkers on TL, so I decided to make is a thread to discuss everything related to fine coffee! I started with manual drip coffee. I got a bag of these and got them ground at the supermarket cause I don't have a grinder yet (so goddamn expensive). That first day, I went to 2 Walmarts, Target, Wegmans, Weis, JC Penny, Macy's, Sears, and a Bed Bath and Beyond to find a manual coffee dripper but I couldn't fine one anywhere. Guess its a dying breed of coffee brewing. So I came home, ordered one online, and then brew my first cup using a piece of paper towel and funnel. Turned out better than I ever imagined and I was instantly hooked. Its fun, easy, and better than any coffee I ever got at Starbucks. No stores near me had this 10 dollar brewer that is literally just a cone and a jug What is your experience with coffee brewing? What is your favorite coffee? Which brewing method should I try next? Discuss! Go in the camping department. That's where they keep the cheap/good brewers now. | ||
Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
My baby along with two of my favourite capsule. Nothing like a homemade espresso first thing saturday morning. Strong black and unadulterated. Coffee in its pure form. Particularly, it it's brought to you by a lovely lady. I promised myself that if I went back to study I would get a decent coffee machine and new laptop. Coffee machine came first of course. I got the one without the milk thing because milk is for pussies. Literally, cats love milk. It's expensive but for anybody wanting a mess free, quick and really good cuppa coffee can't go past Nespresso. With or without George as their front man | ||
JerseyDevil
Australia78 Posts
To the guy asking about the burr grinder. They also use much less friction as they work, which means they don't heat up the coffee as they grind, which also helps to lead to a better quality grind. | ||
Cerin
Australia7 Posts
Nothing beats walking into a coffee shop with a Slayer, when it's quiet, and asking the barista to muck about with it with different blends, timings, pressures and temperatures. I hated espresso until I realised that most places in Australia are terrible at making them. | ||
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