1) Lowering the trust we put in the system
2) Causing losses to random people in the GM and high masters, therefore messing with the point system.
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Petrina
United States178 Posts
1) Lowering the trust we put in the system 2) Causing losses to random people in the GM and high masters, therefore messing with the point system. | ||
Sein
United States1811 Posts
On May 11 2011 11:14 JoeCrow wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2011 11:07 bubblegumbo wrote: The fact that Blizzard allowed this guy to get away without a permanent ban makes the GM league a joke, there are probably people who hack every now and then as well. It matters because getting a high ranking here is suppose to mean something for real offline tournaments in the near future I am sure. There is a tradeoff to banning the hacks immediately. If you wait a little bit, then it basically builds confidence among hacker community that the hack is safe, and blizzard can catch more people who use the hacks when they finally pull the trigger. That reasoning doesn't work for cases like this. You don't need a warden to see that this guy is using a drop hack. Numerous reports on the same guy about dropping people. Evidences caught on stream. He has an impossible record with all his games being shorter than 2-3 minutes. He has like a million APM according to the replays. It's so blatantly obvious to anyone's eyes. If this guy is banned, the hackers aren't going to think "oh, my drophack must have been detected". To make it worse, he's pulled this same BS 2 months ago with many people reporting him and threads about it being made in TL and the official bnet forums. He is still here, this time actually reaching GM #1. | ||
Lochat
United States270 Posts
"3. The ban wave system doesn't work as well for SC2 as it does for WoW. Players have less time and money invested into their accounts than they do in WoW. While the idea is that you can make a big statement and actually catch more people, you're not actually preventing people from cheating. A ban wave comes out every 4 months and SC2 sells for $50 or less right now. That means if you want to continually cheat in SC2, it costs you less per month than a WoW subscription." -- Jujube. | ||
stupidhydro
United States216 Posts
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FeiLing
Germany428 Posts
On May 11 2011 11:26 Lochat wrote: I'll copy-paste from one of the links here, since the guy on the Blizzard forums pointed out how silly these wave-bans are. "That means if you want to continually cheat in SC2, it costs you less per month than a WoW subscription." -- Jujube. When the expansions are there, it actually is gonna cost them a bit more. That is, if they start to actually ban people and not suspend them just for the current season (that's what I heard they are actually doing... and yes that sounds like the most stupid joke ever, but apparently it's true). | ||
TheKRoc
United States74 Posts
Think about it. | ||
Sworn
Canada920 Posts
On May 11 2011 11:35 FeiLing wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2011 11:26 Lochat wrote: I'll copy-paste from one of the links here, since the guy on the Blizzard forums pointed out how silly these wave-bans are. "That means if you want to continually cheat in SC2, it costs you less per month than a WoW subscription." -- Jujube. When the expansions are there, it actually is gonna cost them a bit more. That is, if they start to actually ban people and not suspend them just for the current season (that's what I heard they are actually doing... and yes that sounds like the most stupid joke ever, but apparently it's true). I dont think you will have to buy all 3 expansions just to play on one of their ladders so it wont cost them more. I think blizz should just put some effort into figuring out these hacks and ban the ones making it high enough to get notice. Anyone 60-0 should be checked then banned simple as that. | ||
Kooun
Canada260 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On May 11 2011 11:49 Daiki wrote: Hackers are impossible to stop in a computer game. For every hacker they banned , two more will pop out.. like daisies! (i love mulan ^^) . Every time a new patch hits , they'll always find a counter to it. It's one of these things that we have to put up with. That's fine, but it's still easily possible to severely limit the hackers. Think of the TL ban list for an analogy | ||
Dsn4001
Korea (South)106 Posts
Goodbye 10 points. | ||
iPBioOrMech
Turkey297 Posts
On May 11 2011 11:26 Lochat wrote: I'll copy-paste from one of the links here, since the guy on the Blizzard forums pointed out how silly these wave-bans are. "3. The ban wave system doesn't work as well for SC2 as it does for WoW. Players have less time and money invested into their accounts than they do in WoW. While the idea is that you can make a big statement and actually catch more people, you're not actually preventing people from cheating. A ban wave comes out every 4 months and SC2 sells for $50 or less right now. That means if you want to continually cheat in SC2, it costs you less per month than a WoW subscription." -- Jujube. Thats crazy i wish they were move active on the ban system, maybe they should atleast remove the obvious ones out=/ | ||
Brutaxilos
United States2572 Posts
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
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skindzer
Chile5113 Posts
I honestly hope the GM ladder gets filled with hackers. The sooner blizzard realized battle net 2.0 is a complete failure the better for the community. | ||
GertHeart
United States631 Posts
On May 11 2011 13:00 skindzer wrote: I dont know why you people are mad, im actually happy someone (hackers) is actually doing something to show Blizz "in their face" that they cant manage a ladder for shit. Remember when WGTour got "sponsored" by blizzard? I honestly hope the GM ladder gets filled with hackers. The sooner blizzard realized battle net 2.0 is a complete failure the better for the community. Problem is Bnet 2.0 isn't a failure, it's not Incredible, but it's not a failure. | ||
Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On May 11 2011 13:05 GertHeart wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2011 13:00 skindzer wrote: I dont know why you people are mad, im actually happy someone (hackers) is actually doing something to show Blizz "in their face" that they cant manage a ladder for shit. Remember when WGTour got "sponsored" by blizzard? I honestly hope the GM ladder gets filled with hackers. The sooner blizzard realized battle net 2.0 is a complete failure the better for the community. Problem is Bnet 2.0 isn't a failure, it's not Incredible, but it's not a failure. yes it is >.>, iccup/pgtour has been out for years without having a lot of hackers like we're currently seeing on bnet2.0 | ||
VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
On May 11 2011 11:49 Daiki wrote: Uhhh... no. Good coding can prevent hackers. Hackers are basically exploiting flaws. If there are no flaws, there are no hackers.Hackers are impossible to stop in a computer game. | ||
101toss
3232 Posts
On May 11 2011 13:19 VIB wrote: Show nested quote + Uhhh... no. Good coding can prevent hackers. Hackers are basically exploiting flaws. If there are no flaws, there are no hackers.On May 11 2011 11:49 Daiki wrote: Hackers are impossible to stop in a computer game. Blizzard simply has bad programmers. Remember the custom games fiasco where the "hours played" would loop to zero after reaching 19 hours played due to int overflow? This was a novice mistake, an overlook committed to save memory (don't get me wrong, I appreciate memory use reduction, especially when sc2 has so many memory leaks). Or remember where the ability to warp in immortals was merely dummies out by removing the button, but the mechanism was still there and thus exploited? Bliz hires great programmers, that's for sure. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On May 11 2011 11:14 JoeCrow wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2011 11:07 bubblegumbo wrote: The fact that Blizzard allowed this guy to get away without a permanent ban makes the GM league a joke, there are probably people who hack every now and then as well. It matters because getting a high ranking here is suppose to mean something for real offline tournaments in the near future I am sure. There is a tradeoff to banning the hacks immediately. If you wait a little bit, then it basically builds confidence among hacker community that the hack is safe, and blizzard can catch more people who use the hacks when they finally pull the trigger. The problem is it doesn't actually prevent cheating for SC2 the way it does for WoW. If you enjoy cheating in SC2, it'll cost you $50 every 4 months which is less than a WoW subscription. | ||
101toss
3232 Posts
On May 11 2011 13:41 Jibba wrote: Show nested quote + On May 11 2011 11:14 JoeCrow wrote: On May 11 2011 11:07 bubblegumbo wrote: The fact that Blizzard allowed this guy to get away without a permanent ban makes the GM league a joke, there are probably people who hack every now and then as well. It matters because getting a high ranking here is suppose to mean something for real offline tournaments in the near future I am sure. There is a tradeoff to banning the hacks immediately. If you wait a little bit, then it basically builds confidence among hacker community that the hack is safe, and blizzard can catch more people who use the hacks when they finally pull the trigger. The problem is it doesn't actually prevent cheating for SC2 the way it does for WoW. If you enjoy cheating in SC2, it'll cost you $50 every 4 months which is less than a WoW subscription. Isn't this want blizzard wants, since they are essentially having one person pay a shitton for multiple copies of the game? | ||
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