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Next season I predict Hitler will be the Doctor's father, but not actually Hitler!
+ Show Spoiler +I was surprised they were so fine with killing Dorium Maldovar (blueberry man). His role as a neutral character was good to connect a lot of the separate factions/arcs. He's also been protrayed as a cunning, intelligent character and well his death was less than that.
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It feels good to be right
On June 05 2011 19:13 Lysteria wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Another possibility is River killing Rory and not the Doctor. Amy said she'll be saved by a good man, her husband. And we see him (nearly) dying so often!
Damn, thats a good point wouldn't surprise me if that happens
+ Show Spoiler +Also I'll be very unimpressed if they take this flesh thing any further, its kind of getting abit old =P
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On June 05 2011 15:13 NoobieOne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 17:42 RefleX_AU wrote:So, these are my current predictions as to what will most likely happen in the current season ^.^ + Show Spoiler + --Amy was taken while in the orphanage looking for where the missing girl was taken. The Flesh Amy takes over on the Silence's ship where she is time disorientated once she wakes up, thinking she only just got there. This also implies that the Silence have the Flesh technology as well, which I'm guessing will be in the season final.
--The Doctor's future wife (River) is Amy's daughter... Let me explain: -From the preview of the next episode, Amy's daughter has been taken from her and Amy imprisoned (I think) -River Song claims she is in jail for killing the greatest man she ever knew (more likely than not the doctor). -The child inside the NASA suit from the silence episodes is essentially a time lord, this is because the time traveling Amy did has turned her into a 'time baby'. -The impossible astronaut then kills the future version of the doctor (future River)
--The real doctor now knows that he invites Amy & others to his death as he was told by Amy who thought she was telling the fake Doctor (but they swapped shoes and pretended to be each other)
--I also thought that the woman in the wall would Amy's midwife, which turned out to be true ^.^
Feel free to laugh about how much I've bent the little things that they imply =D Discuss :>
How the hell were you so close to what actually happened wow. Great job with the guess
the producer did some private viewings for fans some weeks in advanced and some kid leaked the plot all over the internet, so i'm a little dubious that he was so accurate, but at the same time i sorta guessed that River was Amy's daughter quite a while ago too so note sure.
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In Australia we're a few weeks behind the post recent one I saw was the 2nd one with the flesh in the monestary, where can I watch the up to date episodes?
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I guess bbc iPlayer only works in the uk? it so, then not sure.
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The episode left me with more questions than answers, I was also fairly disappointed.
+ Show Spoiler +Cybermen? More like cybernoobs! The doctor calls in like 4 favors and all of a sudden he roflstomps all over them? They're not even in charge? They just seem to be randomly involved and most of them die just to show the doctor "means business" about getting amy back? Did the writer expect us to forget every storyline that involved the cybermen ever?
What's up with those favors he asked anyways? I was hoping for some kick-ass guest star action by people from previous seasons. I'm sure the doctor can call in more favors than I have fingers on my right hand, however counting his allies on the scene I guess I'm wrong. Also, even though I liked the nurse sautaron (Spelling?) all the other characters that came to help were not really mention worthy in my eyes. I think it was supposed to be a recognize-fest, however I caught myself going "who were those characters again?" most of the time.
I was expecting a ton more from this episode, I figured Song wasn't Amy's daughter because that'd be too obvious, so the ending was a bit of an anti-climax. Not to mention the cybermen were just a small part of the plan, when I expected them to be behind the whole operation. And the disappointing amount of people showing up after calling in the favors it just feels like the story doesn't make a lot of sense. I even watched the confidential episode to see if I perhaps missed something, or to see if they might explain a bit futher on the paths taken, but no luck.
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On June 05 2011 20:14 valheru wrote: In Australia we're a few weeks behind the post recent one I saw was the 2nd one with the flesh in the monestary, where can I watch the up to date episodes?
Torrents are your friends
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WHY DIDN'T RIVER SONG REGENERATE WHEN SHE DID IF SHE IS A TIME LORD!?
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On June 05 2011 21:05 Mortician wrote: WHY DIDN'T RIVER SONG REGENERATE WHEN SHE DID IF SHE IS A TIME LORD!?
Because she's not.
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On June 05 2011 21:24 Linkirvana wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 21:05 Mortician wrote: WHY DIDN'T RIVER SONG REGENERATE WHEN SHE DID IF SHE IS A TIME LORD!? Because she's not.
Well, the little girl is supposed to be her, and the little girl regenerated
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On June 05 2011 21:05 Mortician wrote: WHY DIDN'T RIVER SONG REGENERATE WHEN SHE DID IF SHE IS A TIME LORD!?
Rewatch her death. No way she had time to regenerate.
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On June 05 2011 22:10 Aelip wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 21:05 Mortician wrote: WHY DIDN'T RIVER SONG REGENERATE WHEN SHE DID IF SHE IS A TIME LORD!? Rewatch her death. No way she had time to regenerate.
Also, IIRC in the discussion leading up to River's death it was stated that not even the Dr could regenerate if he plugged himself in to the core, so River knocked him out and sacrificed herself.
So no plot hole there.
Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_of_the_Dead
That is the 2nd part of that story, which I think is the 1st River appeared in.
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On June 05 2011 22:15 Kuhva wrote: Also, IIRC in the discussion leading up to River's death it was stated that not even the Dr could regenerate if he plugged himself in to the core, so River knocked him out and sacrificed herself.
Something like this yeah. It should be a nice challenge to review all the episodes with River Song from end to begin just to have the same view as her ah hah.
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On June 05 2011 20:06 Pads wrote:Show nested quote +On June 05 2011 15:13 NoobieOne wrote:On May 31 2011 17:42 RefleX_AU wrote:So, these are my current predictions as to what will most likely happen in the current season ^.^ + Show Spoiler + --Amy was taken while in the orphanage looking for where the missing girl was taken. The Flesh Amy takes over on the Silence's ship where she is time disorientated once she wakes up, thinking she only just got there. This also implies that the Silence have the Flesh technology as well, which I'm guessing will be in the season final.
--The Doctor's future wife (River) is Amy's daughter... Let me explain: -From the preview of the next episode, Amy's daughter has been taken from her and Amy imprisoned (I think) -River Song claims she is in jail for killing the greatest man she ever knew (more likely than not the doctor). -The child inside the NASA suit from the silence episodes is essentially a time lord, this is because the time traveling Amy did has turned her into a 'time baby'. -The impossible astronaut then kills the future version of the doctor (future River)
--The real doctor now knows that he invites Amy & others to his death as he was told by Amy who thought she was telling the fake Doctor (but they swapped shoes and pretended to be each other)
--I also thought that the woman in the wall would Amy's midwife, which turned out to be true ^.^
Feel free to laugh about how much I've bent the little things that they imply =D Discuss :>
How the hell were you so close to what actually happened wow. Great job with the guess the producer did some private viewings for fans some weeks in advanced and some kid leaked the plot all over the internet, so i'm a little dubious that he was so accurate, but at the same time i sorta guessed that River was Amy's daughter quite a while ago too so note sure.
The preview was only ep 1+2, iirc.
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Canada13372 Posts
The latest episode was just wow. So cool I need to go back and watch all the doctor who episodes with River in them now XD One day we will have River's chronology worked out and it will be cool to see the episodes from her point of view :D
Coolest thing though is how Steven Moffat has been planning this out for so long and it just came to fruition. The guy is gonna win some awards for this I am sure.
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Latest episode was WTFHAXAWESOMESAUCE.
It was brilliant, really funny, a long time coming, and also really fun.
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On June 05 2011 19:13 Lysteria wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Another possibility is River killing Rory and not the Doctor. Amy said she'll be saved by a good man, her husband. And we see him (nearly) dying so often! + Show Spoiler +We've already seen the spaceman kill the doctor. Way I see it River is born, raised as a weapon, kills the old doctor at a young age, then meets a slightly younger doctor who seduces her and takes her on a journey through time and space, she learns who she is and who she killed, more journeying while the doctor gets younger until the doctor finally meets her in the forest of the dead and she dies.
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it makes perfect sense, she's been brought up to kill the Doctor, you see her in the space suit, you see the space suit killing the Doctor, that mixed with the fact that the Doctors future (his death) is Rivers past (her as a child) and it makes sense!! And to add to that, we already know River kills someone, so it is clearly the Doctor
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+ Show Spoiler +Was a bit disappointed they gave it away so easily and so early by showing the baby's name, which wouldn't have been so obvious if it hadn't been such a strong possibility at that point. Still think it was awesome, just not at all surprising and kinda made it drag on a bit in the end. So excited for the fall season now.
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