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Russian Federation1208 Posts
On May 02 2008 12:31 Wasabi wrote:Flash, of course. I don't really think Jaedong's as good as he used to be a few months ago, especially his ZvT.
He traded his ZvT-skills to ZvP-skills
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On May 02 2008 12:54 ScarFace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 12:38 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:On May 02 2008 12:31 Wasabi wrote:Who will beat JaeDong down? Flash, of course. I don't really think Jaedong's as good as he used to be a few months ago, especially his ZvT. I think JaeDong is good, flash is just also really good. They are on a similar level imo. I would of agreed with you last month. I'm not too sure anymore, to be honest. Jaedong still got some fight left in him, I'm sure. But his zvt is slipping, and we all know a bonjwa has no bad match up.
His ZvT seems slow to react to the changes we have seen lately in Terran FE->Mass rax play. I mean every game i've seen him play lately he can barely keep his 3rd expansion up, his muta harass does no damage.. I just dont know. He still controls his army like a motherfucker but it doesnt matter because he goes typical muta->lurker->defiler and it just doesnt work lately: /
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Well despite his recent results vs Terran I belive he'll come back. You can see that he is easily one of the best players in terms of gamesense, micro/macro in the world. I think he will win the MSL, he just needs his confidence back. JD that is
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Stegosaur
Netherlands1231 Posts
Jaedong got cheesed multiple times, even by his teammate Backho. That kind of skews the perspective =) I think he's still a great ZvT player, just not a great 'anticheeser' like Savior once was.
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Hwasin will rise to the top!! I can feel it!
Hwasinsurance....DENIED. Please stand by to be owned
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JaeDong is good, Flash is also good, it's something like the BoxeR/Yellow or the Oov/July rivalry.
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Kespa seems pretty accurate for once. I hope Jaedong and Flash split the starleague titles again so that there's some suspense. Flash dominating would just be too oppressive.
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On May 02 2008 18:16 red.venom wrote: His ZvT seems slow to react to the changes we have seen lately in Terran FE->Mass rax play. I mean every game i've seen him play lately he can barely keep his 3rd expansion up, his muta harass does no damage.. I just dont know. He still controls his army like a motherfucker but it doesnt matter because he goes typical muta->lurker->defiler and it just doesnt work lately: /
His recent game vs Hwasin was the first 3 hatch muta vs fe game in a while that he lost though. Checking TLPD, his recent losses have been to cheese (vs casy), failed 2 hatch muta (vs ruby), proxy rush (vs mind), failed cheese (vs flash), and to flash in GOM invitational (can't remember, once to metal again probably), sunken breaks (vs frozean and flash), and metal. But his poor performance vs Hwasin on Wuthering Heights by itself is enough to make me doubt how good his zvt is now, and if not that then certainly the latest game vs Hwasin in MSL.
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I like the drop in points from Bisu to Mind xD. 4 top players leading the pack.
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Noice, protoss leading the player count in the top 10.
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On May 03 2008 01:34 Divinek wrote: Noice, protoss leading the player count in the top 10. ???? Edit: You said ten, not 30. I hate being dyslexic, even though I'm not.
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at the moment i actually think the kespa rank is more accurate than fakesteves power rank.
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On May 03 2008 05:40 parkin wrote: at the moment i actually think the kespa rank is more accurate than fakesteves power rank.
no. mani is undoubtly rightfully in the top 10 : )
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flash > jd =) its just the truth at the moment.
im sad for savior T_T i want the old god back T__T
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On May 03 2008 06:03 Blue wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2008 05:40 parkin wrote: at the moment i actually think the kespa rank is more accurate than fakesteves power rank. no. mani is undoubtly rightfully in the top 10 : )
i agree )
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On May 02 2008 18:16 red.venom wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 12:54 ScarFace wrote:On May 02 2008 12:38 MoNKeYSpanKeR wrote:On May 02 2008 12:31 Wasabi wrote:Who will beat JaeDong down? Flash, of course. I don't really think Jaedong's as good as he used to be a few months ago, especially his ZvT. I think JaeDong is good, flash is just also really good. They are on a similar level imo. I would of agreed with you last month. I'm not too sure anymore, to be honest. Jaedong still got some fight left in him, I'm sure. But his zvt is slipping, and we all know a bonjwa has no bad match up. His ZvT seems slow to react to the changes we have seen lately in Terran FE->Mass rax play. I mean every game i've seen him play lately he can barely keep his 3rd expansion up, his muta harass does no damage.. I just dont know. He still controls his army like a motherfucker but it doesnt matter because he goes typical muta->lurker->defiler and it just doesnt work lately: /
I honestly thought you were talking about sAviOr. Someone, hold me
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On May 02 2008 21:50 Wonders wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 18:16 red.venom wrote: His ZvT seems slow to react to the changes we have seen lately in Terran FE->Mass rax play. I mean every game i've seen him play lately he can barely keep his 3rd expansion up, his muta harass does no damage.. I just dont know. He still controls his army like a motherfucker but it doesnt matter because he goes typical muta->lurker->defiler and it just doesnt work lately: / His recent game vs Hwasin was the first 3 hatch muta vs fe game in a while that he lost though. Checking TLPD, his recent losses have been to cheese (vs casy), failed 2 hatch muta (vs ruby), proxy rush (vs mind), failed cheese (vs flash), and to flash in GOM invitational (can't remember, once to metal again probably), sunken breaks (vs frozean and flash), and metal. But his poor performance vs Hwasin on Wuthering Heights by itself is enough to make me doubt how good his zvt is now, and if not that then certainly the latest game vs Hwasin in MSL. Reading your post makes me wonder, what is cheese after all? seems like, chesse is when jaedong loses.
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On May 02 2008 15:52 H_ wrote: i know i thought this was about 30 positions too high as well
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United States1653 Posts
On May 03 2008 07:41 UnS)DeathTrap wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2008 21:50 Wonders wrote:On May 02 2008 18:16 red.venom wrote: His ZvT seems slow to react to the changes we have seen lately in Terran FE->Mass rax play. I mean every game i've seen him play lately he can barely keep his 3rd expansion up, his muta harass does no damage.. I just dont know. He still controls his army like a motherfucker but it doesnt matter because he goes typical muta->lurker->defiler and it just doesnt work lately: / His recent game vs Hwasin was the first 3 hatch muta vs fe game in a while that he lost though. Checking TLPD, his recent losses have been to cheese (vs casy), failed 2 hatch muta (vs ruby), proxy rush (vs mind), failed cheese (vs flash), and to flash in GOM invitational (can't remember, once to metal again probably), sunken breaks (vs frozean and flash), and metal. But his poor performance vs Hwasin on Wuthering Heights by itself is enough to make me doubt how good his zvt is now, and if not that then certainly the latest game vs Hwasin in MSL. Reading your post makes me wonder, what is cheese after all? seems like, chesse is when jaedong loses.
From those games, cheese would be: Casy's proxy Barracks in this OSL, Mind's proxy Barracks on Blue Storm in the previous MSL, and Jaedong's cheese attempt to sunken in Flash in the GSI.
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