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the best 5 man unit for the Raptors the past month is VanVleet-Wright-Miles-Siakam-Poetl.
my god they are a holy 5 man terror squad on defense.
On February 10 2018 06:19 Ace wrote: Yes but keeping some SGs and SFs in front of him doesn't mean he is a good defender. The ability to switch isn't effective if the lineup is filled with morons like JR Smith.
God I hope they face Toronto. i think we are seeing today why Hill keeping Tatum or Brown or Irving in front of him has value. Hill is playing some good defense today.
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First game of the new look Cavs was a crazy big success. Hill played just 21 mins looked ok, Clarkson and hood put up points which helped when James was on the bench. Everyone looked a lot more comfortable letting Lebron be King and just filling rolls. Be interesting to see if this keeps up.
For the Celts they looked bad in the second half, in the first horford had some massive dunks. Which was surprising to me, I didn't think he still had the ups! Kyrie has some good plays. Rozier stuffed the stat sheet, but didn't shoot great, he is a top back up though.
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I honestly thought the Cavs were going to continue to struggle while this new group worked to build its chemistry. I forgot the older team didn't have any chemistry either. Cavs are just younger, better defensively, and better shooting, and most importantly they are actually putting in effort.
Looks like JR got his confidence back. For a while he was hitting the side of the backboard with his shots and clearly lost his confidence because he was passing up wide open 3s and trying to put the ball on the floor. Now he's back to throwing up shots while falling out of bounds with a defender right in his face and swishing them.
JR shot 31% from 3 in January. LBJ shot 22% from 3 in January after starting the year shooting 45% through the first 3 months. Both are white hot in February, shooting nearly 50% from 3. Only a 5 game sample size but hopefully they can keep it going.
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if i were toronto, boston or cleveland.. philly is the team i'd want to avoid in the 1st round.
On February 12 2018 07:56 JimmiC wrote: Hill played just 21 mins looked ok, it was a blowout so no one played 30 minutes. Hill was better than "ok". 13 points in 21 minutes on 8 shots is ok? +17 in 21 minutes against a 40-16 team is ok? as usual his defense was good. Hill played zero minutes of garbage time.
i disagree with SVG saying Hill's defense has always been "excellent". He was probably just excited about the play Hill just made. i've yet to hear any serious NBA analyst describe Hill's defense as "ok" or "average". not one.
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Talk about defensive it's you JJ. He was fine and not spectacular. Sure he was + 17 so was everyone they blew them out. James was +23 Thompson +18 JR SMith +17 Hood + 14.
He was fine, and that is good, that is what Cleveland needs!
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Keep in mind though, that Boston has been absolutely terrible for a few games now. This game could just be a symptom of that more than any evidence that Cavs are that much better.
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Yeah, it is just one game, just so drastic because last week was so awful. Be interesting to see them vs Raps, bucks and 6rs.
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I didnt watch twolves sac tonight but id take wiggins line
18 8 3 1 1 7/13
Vs
12-3-1-0-0 3/8
But more than that, i have no idea why they would be compared or are comparable
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Congratz to Dwane Casey on his 300th win coaching the Raptors.
its pretty unfair to Charlotte to play on the west coast at 10pm and then have to play a 1 pm game after 1 day off... no wonder they looked like crap.
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Here a chart from cleaning the glass I came across. The stats are showing on a percentile basis how their team compared with them on vs off the court. This is for defense and is the worst one I have ever seen! Guess the player?
TEAM EFFICIENCY AND FOUR FACTORS The "on/off diff" rows show the difference in how the team performed with the player on vs. off the court for each of these stats.
Pts/poss eFG% TOV% ORB% FT rate 8 29 25 6 37 10 13 25 41 43 58 42 47 47 56 9 7 18 69 48
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On February 12 2018 12:10 JimmiC wrote: I didnt watch twolves sac tonight but id take wiggins line 18 8 3 1 1 7/13 Vs 12-3-1-0-0 3/8 But more than that, i have no idea why they would be compared or are comparable
this is the standard offensive boxscore analysis of player performance that is fairly common. it drops a lot of context. I'll add some context.
Wiggins played with 2 all stars and 2 solid veteran players against the team in the NBA with the least amount of wins. During his time on the floor Minnesota scored a lot of points, however, they gave up 4 more points than the opposition. This on a night when Minnesota won by 5. So (-4) playing with 2 all stars and 2 vets against the team in the NBA with the fewest # of wins. His team was +9 in his 13 minutes on the bench. Wiggins was poor last night.
Hill played on a team thrown together 2 days ago against a team that is 40-16 with the best defense in the NBA. Hill played during the most competitive parts of the game and not during any garbage time. No other Cavalier player was a (+) player on a per minute basis higher than Hill during the most competitive parts of the game, namely, +0.81 per minute. Hill produced 1.5 points for every shot he took against the best defense in the NBA. Hill pressured the ball out of Boston's best play maker and best ball carrier ... one Kyrie Irving.
Hill played better than Wiggins yesterday. It is not close. Proposing Wiggins played better than Hill based on offensive boxscore stats is a fool's errand.
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On February 13 2018 10:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2018 12:10 JimmiC wrote: I didnt watch twolves sac tonight but id take wiggins line 18 8 3 1 1 7/13 Vs 12-3-1-0-0 3/8 But more than that, i have no idea why they would be compared or are comparable this is the standard offensive boxscore analysis of player performance that is fairly common. it drops a lot of context. I'll add some context. Wiggins played with 2 all stars and 2 solid veteran players against the team in the NBA with the least amount of wins. During his time on the floor Minnesota scored a lot of points, however, they gave up 4 more points than the opposition. This on a night when Minnesota won by 5. So (-4) playing with 2 all stars and 2 vets against the team in the NBA with the fewest # of wins. His team was +9 in his 13 minutes on the bench. Wiggins was poor last night. Hill played on a team thrown together 2 days ago against a team that is 40-16 with the best defense in the NBA. Hill played during the most competitive parts of the game and not during garbage time. No other Cavalier player was a (+) player on a per minute basis higer than Hill. Hill produced 1.5 points for every shot he took against the best defense in the NBA. Hill pressured the ball out of Boston's best play maker and ball carrier by far.. Kyrie Irving. Hill played better than Wiggins yesterday. It is not close. For a guy who possibly didn't watch either game, but for sure didn't watch one of them that is bold. It is also pointless, you are again dying on a hill and arguing something no one cares about. Why does it matter who played better in one game between Hill and Wiggins? How do measure if playing with LBJ helps more or less then Towns and Butler? How about PG compared to SF? If Hill did play better then Wiggins why does that matter? If Wiggins played better why does that matter?
You think Hill played amazing, I think he played OK. Either way it is one game we will see over time. You constantly bringing up Wiggins to try to repeat the same argument over and over is stupid. Especially when you will at some point back track to Wiggins is an average player who will improve to possibly some day be an all star. For all our sakes LET IT GO!
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i watched both games and Hill outplayed Wiggins. It was not close.
i would not say Hill was "amazing" I'd say Hill was clearly above average and Wiggins was downright bad. This is how a team with 2 all stars and 2 solid vets ends up in a 46 minute war with a bad Kings team.
going through the back and forth about boxscore analysis and its inherent flaws makes for a quality pedagogical exercise for the lurkers in the thread. so, thank you, for posting on this matter.
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I'm not arguing with you, like I said originally. I'm just pointing out that it is a stupid argument you are trying to have and that you a troll for continually trying to have it!
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that Mitchell//Gasol double head-butt was grotesque. Rudy Gobert lookin' like a 7'1" allen iverson... LOL
Utah commentator guy : "looks to me like they are missing Rubio tonight. the offense is just not in synch".
On February 13 2018 10:24 JimmiC wrote: I'm not arguing with you, like I said originally. I'm just pointing out that it is a stupid argument you are trying to have and that you a troll for continually trying to have it! i don't really consider it an argument. its a pedagogical exercise.
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Speculation is Westbrook will play tonight. He went through his standard pre game routine after shoot-around.
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On February 13 2018 09:15 JimmiC wrote: Here a chart from cleaning the glass I came across. The stats are showing on a percentile basis how their team compared with them on vs off the court. This is for defense and is the worst one I have ever seen! Guess the player?
TEAM EFFICIENCY AND FOUR FACTORS The "on/off diff" rows show the difference in how the team performed with the player on vs. off the court for each of these stats.
Pts/poss eFG% TOV% ORB% FT rate 8 29 25 6 37 10 13 25 41 43 58 42 47 47 56 9 7 18 69 48
If anyone was interested the player was Zach Lavine! The bottom row is him on the Bulls and it down right horrible! That being said he a great steal and breakaway dunk to seal their game last night, so maybe there is hope!
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On February 14 2018 08:45 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2018 09:15 JimmiC wrote: Here a chart from cleaning the glass I came across. The stats are showing on a percentile basis how their team compared with them on vs off the court. This is for defense and is the worst one I have ever seen! Guess the player?
TEAM EFFICIENCY AND FOUR FACTORS The "on/off diff" rows show the difference in how the team performed with the player on vs. off the court for each of these stats.
Pts/poss eFG% TOV% ORB% FT rate 8 29 25 6 37 10 13 25 41 43 58 42 47 47 56 9 7 18 69 48
If anyone was interested the player was Zach Lavine! The bottom row is him on the Bulls and it down right horrible! That being said he a great steal and breakaway dunk to seal their game last night, so maybe there is hope! Except both teams were trying to lose at the end...
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So you are saying that lavine doesn't take coaching well!
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