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On September 26 2011 08:05 Fishes wrote: Tennant was amazing, Eccleston was meh, Smith is fresh, seems like a really different Doctor.
Wait what? Did you even SEE Eccleston? For his one season, he was the one who drew me in to the show. Eccleston was fantastic. Granted, I'm a significantly bigger David Tennant fan, but still!
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On September 26 2011 08:11 Klive5ive wrote: Last episode was really brilliant. Maybe they should have more guests in. The only problem was the plot resolution. I wish he solved more things using clever tricks rather than stupidity into blind luck.
I believe that is the writing team's attempt at showing that the Dr. doesn't always succeed (then does, anyway).
I haven't been too impressed this season. Feels like a lot of filler episodes, almost as if the focus on the Dr. is taking away from everything else.
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On September 27 2011 07:13 Gnosis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 08:11 Klive5ive wrote: Last episode was really brilliant. Maybe they should have more guests in. The only problem was the plot resolution. I wish he solved more things using clever tricks rather than stupidity into blind luck. I believe that is the writing team's attempt at showing that the Dr. doesn't always succeed (then does, anyway). I haven't been too impressed this season. Feels like a lot of filler episodes, almost as if the focus on the Dr. is taking away from everything else.
I agree with your last statement, it seems that each episode is 95% filler 5% actual relevance to the continuing story, i will still watch and i hope they dont let me down but im not really liking these fillers and 'dads love for child saves the day' which has happened twice in a short space of time now..
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On September 27 2011 07:25 nekuodah wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 07:13 Gnosis wrote:On September 26 2011 08:11 Klive5ive wrote: Last episode was really brilliant. Maybe they should have more guests in. The only problem was the plot resolution. I wish he solved more things using clever tricks rather than stupidity into blind luck. I believe that is the writing team's attempt at showing that the Dr. doesn't always succeed (then does, anyway). I haven't been too impressed this season. Feels like a lot of filler episodes, almost as if the focus on the Dr. is taking away from everything else. I agree with your last statement, it seems that each episode is 95% filler 5% actual relevance to the continuing story, i will still watch and i hope they dont let me down but im not really liking these fillers and 'dads love for child saves the day' which has happened twice in a short space of time now..
Yeah, not to mention episodes which prominently feature corridors... I like Smith, or maybe I like Smith because I prefer Amy to Donna and Rose, who started getting on my nerves. I'll keep watching, but for this whole 'death / decline of the Dr.' subplot they're doing, I don't think they're doing it well.
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What I want to know is where in River's timeline is she when we saw her at the end of the last episode?
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On September 27 2011 09:05 Asrathiel wrote: What I want to know is where in River's timeline is she when we saw her at the end of the last episode?
+ Show Spoiler +Well, at the end of "Lets Kill Hitler" she is being accepted into archeology, and at the beginning of whatever the next episode is called, she's recently been conferred the title of "Dr." Presumably, then, this is still very early in her time-line.
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On September 27 2011 10:58 Gnosis wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 09:05 Asrathiel wrote: What I want to know is where in River's timeline is she when we saw her at the end of the last episode? + Show Spoiler +Well, at the end of "Lets Kill Hitler" she is being accepted into archeology, and at the beginning of whatever the next episode is called, she's recently been conferred the title of "Dr." Presumably, then, this is still very early in her time-line.
Good point ^_^
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What do you guys think of Mickey? hes one of my favorite characters because he turns into such a cool character after what happens to him
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Can't believe I got excited for this episode.
+ Show Spoiler +I can't believe it would've been him just faking his death. Somehow time and space got tricked into thinking he was dead which resulted in everything going back to normal? That doesn't even make sense.Since I was watching a bit of a laggy stream I may have missed some essential convos, but that's how I understood it atleast. And then River goes ahead and flat out tell Amy about it.
Also on a different note, shouldn't the River Song from a point in time past "the doctor's death" (Say, the River from the Library episodes from series 4) not remember it as if the Doctor died that day? And therefor not be his wife, and therefor not have as many adventures with the Doctor? I mean fixed point in time and all that right? Or was time never changed? Was it always supposed to be a fake doctor dying? And if that is the case, why does time and space still go batshit crazy when the fake doctor didn't die? (I even recall briefly seing reapers)
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On October 02 2011 04:02 Linkirvana wrote:Can't believe I got excited for this episode. + Show Spoiler +I can't believe it would've been him just faking his death. Somehow time and space got tricked into thinking he was dead which resulted in everything going back to normal? That doesn't even make sense.Since I was watching a bit of a laggy stream I may have missed some essential convos, but that's how I understood it atleast. And then River goes ahead and flat out tell Amy about it.
Also on a different note, shouldn't the River Song from a point in time past "the doctor's death" (Say, the River from the Library episodes from series 4) not remember it as if the Doctor died that day? And therefor not be his wife, and therefor not have as many adventures with the Doctor? I mean fixed point in time and all that right? Or was time never changed? Was it always supposed to be a fake doctor dying? And if that is the case, why does time and space still go batshit crazy when the fake doctor didn't die? (I even recall briefly seing reapers)
Here is how i believe it's explained.
+ Show Spoiler +The fixed point in time is not the Doctor's death. It was River shooting the Teselecta. It was the Teselecta in "The Impossible Astronaut" as well, just nobody knew it at the time. Everyone just assumed the fixed point was the death of the Doctor.
He didn't trick time and space, only the people living in time and space.
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On October 02 2011 04:02 Linkirvana wrote:Can't believe I got excited for this episode. + Show Spoiler +I can't believe it would've been him just faking his death. Somehow time and space got tricked into thinking he was dead which resulted in everything going back to normal? That doesn't even make sense.Since I was watching a bit of a laggy stream I may have missed some essential convos, but that's how I understood it atleast. And then River goes ahead and flat out tell Amy about it.
Also on a different note, shouldn't the River Song from a point in time past "the doctor's death" (Say, the River from the Library episodes from series 4) not remember it as if the Doctor died that day? And therefor not be his wife, and therefor not have as many adventures with the Doctor? I mean fixed point in time and all that right? Or was time never changed? Was it always supposed to be a fake doctor dying? And if that is the case, why does time and space still go batshit crazy when the fake doctor didn't die? (I even recall briefly seing reapers)
I just clicked your spoiler forgetting that Europe get's it much earlier... This has made me the saddest person on TeamLiquid
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+ Show Spoiler +Why or how would the Teselecta begin to start regeneration? I guess I can get everything else that happened but I dunno, if that was just a robot then how did it start doing that? I doubt they can manufacture such an energy force just like that
ehhhhhh still...long long way to the next season...
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+ Show Spoiler +Anybody else think the finale could have done with an epic double length episode to end the series, i also wanted a more mind boggling ending where the we find out the doctor has been trapped in the pandorica all this time or something and we only now find out (not in the "i'll resolve the whole story in the last five seconds with the doctor appearing unexplainably" fashion of the last finale though.)
Overall however i thought this series was really good, Matt Smith has certainly grown on me!
Edit: how did i not notice this thread before
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I'm just so close to watch the final episode of this epic second part of the season. Just a few minutes and i'm sure it will be awesome.
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On October 02 2011 04:14 Stijx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 04:02 Linkirvana wrote:Can't believe I got excited for this episode. + Show Spoiler +I can't believe it would've been him just faking his death. Somehow time and space got tricked into thinking he was dead which resulted in everything going back to normal? That doesn't even make sense.Since I was watching a bit of a laggy stream I may have missed some essential convos, but that's how I understood it atleast. And then River goes ahead and flat out tell Amy about it.
Also on a different note, shouldn't the River Song from a point in time past "the doctor's death" (Say, the River from the Library episodes from series 4) not remember it as if the Doctor died that day? And therefor not be his wife, and therefor not have as many adventures with the Doctor? I mean fixed point in time and all that right? Or was time never changed? Was it always supposed to be a fake doctor dying? And if that is the case, why does time and space still go batshit crazy when the fake doctor didn't die? (I even recall briefly seing reapers)
I just clicked your spoiler forgetting that Europe get's it much earlier... This has made me the saddest person on TeamLiquid Oh wow I feel so sorry for you ahahahaa
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This show has 1950s special effects, it is so weird, lol.
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It's proud for using relatively cheap special effects and still making them work well. However I admit, if I were to be anal about modern special effects etc, I would cringe every time I saw a cyberman.
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+ Show Spoiler +Super, super dissapointed by the episode. The "twist" was so obvious I wanted to cry, and we are still left with a fuckton of unanswered (further delayed) questions. Overall a decent season, with some absolutely horrible episodes and a bad, bad ending.
Kind of the opposite of series 5, where the episodes leading up to the finale was okay, but the final two being so amazing the series overall was awesome.
Did we ever get an answer to what had the juice to fucking explode the TARDIS in series 5? I was so hoping for an Omega-type villain pulling the strings.
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