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On March 02 2012 11:16 Badfatpanda wrote: Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push. it was 2-0 for thors
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Yeah i really would have liked to see mass ghost still, just to see if it does anything. I heard some snipes.. but nothing died? :D
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On March 02 2012 11:12 Noocta wrote: Yeah.. i'm sorry but since ghost nerf, you just can't beat the kind of army Seal have here. :/
Pffft. TvZ lategame is barely explored. Terran used to be able to mass Ghosts and snipe the shit out of all Zerg T3, now maybe they'll have to incorporate Ravens more intelligently or something. Give it time.
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Losing Kas and Beastyqt already...not looking so good for Empire...Violet will have to get a lot of kills.
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Well Brood/infestor/corruptor is pretty unstoppable. It's terran's fault for bringing it to late game, should have know he'd have no chance.
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On March 02 2012 11:19 Shellshock1122 wrote: How is seal's zvz? I cant recall any examples in gstl and I've never watched his stream. I have never seen him being used purpousefully against zerg opponents. From what I recall from his match vs BboongBboong, his ZvZ is quite "meh": not heinous but not necessarily good.
On March 02 2012 11:20 Jarree wrote: Yeah i really would have liked to see mass ghost still, just to see if it does anything. I heard some snipes.. but nothing died? :D He used a handful on corruptors. I would have liked him to try sniping infestors; there were not that many at a point, and now snipe is extremely good against infestors (2 down from 3).
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On March 02 2012 11:19 Noocta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 11:16 Badfatpanda wrote:On March 02 2012 11:12 Noocta wrote: Yeah.. i'm sorry but since ghost nerf, you just can't beat the kind of army Seal have here. :/ That's what ThorZaIN and DeMusliM thought at MLG...oh wait. Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push. They hit'ed way before the BL corruptor army get to this point tho. The only game i saw where a terran beat a legit BLs corruptor army is still Polt vs Stephano on Antigua but.. comon.. almost noone can pull that off :S I guess there's something to explore with geting ravens with the vikings ( like when you throw down 3 more starport, put techlab on 2 of them ) and use PPD and after that HSM. That's a lot of theory tho..
But the reason I brought up those games were because both players went mech and ROLLED a BL/Corrupter army in 30+ and 40+minute games, you just need to scout and adjust your composition to fit their tech. Foreigner Terrans play too passive in general whereas Polt was in Stephano's face from the 6minute mark in nearly all of his games.
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Naruto, who do you send to snipe violet? Go ahead and unleash Jjakji or put in someone like Sage?
nvm. not a factor it looks like
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On March 02 2012 11:20 Bagration wrote: Losing Kas and Beastyqt already...not looking so good for Empire...Violet will have to get a lot of kills. no faith in happy? :O
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On March 02 2012 11:23 HQuality wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 11:20 Bagration wrote: Losing Kas and Beastyqt already...not looking so good for Empire...Violet will have to get a lot of kills. no faith in happy? :O Happy is really good but Kas' and Beasty's performances were still disappointing.
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On March 02 2012 11:21 RUS RO DAH!!! wrote: Well Brood/infestor/corruptor is pretty unstoppable. It's terran's fault for bringing it to late game, should have know he'd have no chance.
Well actually thats not completely true, but as I explained first of all I don't know why Kas took such a defensive position when he was clearly ahead in upgrades and could have pushed the issue, making Seal spend gas on actually banelings and other stuff to defend instead of heavily teching... AND letting Zerg get such an army on Shakuras where you cannot bypass it NOR use the immobility of it against it was a big mistake.
I don't want to say it was weak by Kas as he's an excellent player, but for me as observer that was his mistake but you always have to understand that what he saw was completely different from what we could actually see. His defensive position would be very good against a brutal mass ling baneling muta style, as it becomes completely inefficient against a maxed Terran.
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On March 02 2012 11:23 HQuality wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 11:20 Bagration wrote: Losing Kas and Beastyqt already...not looking so good for Empire...Violet will have to get a lot of kills. no faith in happy? :O
It's very hard for any player to take mutiple consecutive wins off of a top Korean team, especially when you don't have map picks.
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On March 02 2012 11:20 HQuality wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 11:16 Badfatpanda wrote: Kas decided to invest in 6 supply thors with minimal upgrades instead of producing 3/3 rines. His harass was really not there all game and he waited SOOOOOOO long to push. it was 2-0 for thors
Yeah, barely upgraded. You need armor to tank broodling damage or else they die that fast without doing damage, and +damage scales SOOO much with attack upgrades because of the javelin missle splash. It was really inefficient that he got 30 supply in thors without getting sufficient upgrades.
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Wow, Violet so good, holding that off so far
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On March 02 2012 11:24 Elyvilon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 11:23 HQuality wrote:On March 02 2012 11:20 Bagration wrote: Losing Kas and Beastyqt already...not looking so good for Empire...Violet will have to get a lot of kills. no faith in happy? :O Happy is really good but Kas' and Beasty's performances were still disappointing.
Especially since + Show Spoiler +beasty just fucking ROLLED Oz in the NASTL it would have been great to have him go on to face San/Tassadar
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On March 02 2012 11:23 Shellshock1122 wrote: Naruto, who do you send to snipe violet? Go ahead and unleash Jjakji or put in someone like Sage?
nvm. not a factor it looks like
I would send Jjaki, yes.
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Wow, what an exciting ZvZ!
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Violet just needs to survive here, and Seal will be too far behind production-wise.
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