On June 15 2012 00:55 Tachion wrote: Does anyone know of a game where a korean pro has used this 6 queen build? Nestea's ro32 games perhaps?
Watch MKP vs Yugioh Code A Game 2.
Yugioh is the first one to popularized the 6 queen build in a televised match not Nestea. Nestea though uses the 6 queen build twice against TheStC.
Basically, you do the 4 queen build and instead delay your gas to 50 foodish for the additional 2 queens(hence 6 queen). After that, plant quadruple gases and take a third or macro hatch and transition.
Its a solid build around since 4 queen spreading creep and push back hellions back much easier and also defend banshee harass much easier.
Though i feel kinda bad for terran though since i literally can drone up as much as i want with 4 queens as my defense and 2 for injecting hatches.Doesn't matter whether they go triple CC when i can drone as much as i want for 3 bases so easily. XD
The one thing that the pros see that we don't are the specific practice matches against each other in the teamhouse... if balance is OK on ladder but MVP is getting smashed in TvZ and TvP back home, the latter could potentially be a better indicator of what top-level, prepared play is like. I dunno.
Also, MVP is hella smart. I have to wonder how many of his interview answers are calculated to screw with his potential opponents...
On June 14 2012 23:33 Poisonblack wrote: the king of terran is also the king of whining.. unsurprisingly
Your kidding. He has the balls to say the truth and how insane hard terran has it to win vs zerg (or protoss). Its just crazy what terran is forced to do and micro flawlessly or they just crumble.
On June 14 2012 23:33 Poisonblack wrote: the king of terran is also the king of whining.. unsurprisingly
Your kidding. He has the balls to say the truth and how insane hard terran has it to win vs zerg (or protoss). Its just crazy what terran is forced to do and micro flawlessly or they just crumble.
Nah i think MVP(king of mindgame) is playing mindgames with his upcoming opponent. The moment he said he was aiming third place in the round of 32 in CodeS. I knew he was up to something,i mean who the heck would want to aim for third place and not want to win?
Though i agreed zerg is strong but MVP is making out like it seems he had no chance against zerg. Not practicing TvZ since the finals and beating Line quite convincely.=| Pretty sure he mind gaming his future opponent Z or P.
and for all the naysayers, MVP was also top of Korean Gmasters with random on top of all his championships.. I think he has enough knowledge, success, and experience to make the claims he does.
He also doesn't say T has no chance..he said if two players are equal in skill and they don't choke on stage the P or Z will win...thats an important distinction. Its why he was able to win pretty much all his matches/the championship last season..
On June 15 2012 01:16 torm3ntin wrote: Wow. So mvp is not Playing tvz, neither tvp. Wha the hell he is doing then?
What he said is that he picked a Zerg player not being aware of how well the Zerg race was doing recently because he had not played a game against Zerg between the previous GSL season and when he picked Line.
Since then he has been practicing against Zerg a lot (and losing a lot apparently). He didn't focus on TvP because he was backing on Happy to take out Genius.
"The only reason a Zerg or Protoss loses in a broadcasted match is because they don’t play their best. Unless those races make a mistake, it’s really hard for Terran to win. Until we come up with something new, it’ll continue to be hard for Terrans. Back when Toss was the OP race, Terran could at least deal with it. But now, there is nothing we can do against Zerg. If you have two players of equal skill, the Terran cannot beat the Zerg."
On June 15 2012 00:29 Bagration wrote: It's definitely an indicator that something may be off when the world's best player is complaining about balance... :|
Congrats MVP and Genius
April 2011 before blue flamme, ghost, thor nerfs,etc Terran is the weakest race...
Genius is onto something here, maybe they should extend the inject time with like 5 seconds so it only affect the pros that don't miss injects or rarely miss em.
On June 15 2012 01:32 fanvadmeck wrote: Genius is onto something here, maybe they should extend the inject time with like 5 seconds so it only affect the pros that don't miss injects or rarely miss em.
There’s a reason I aimed only for third place. Lately, my win rate for TvZ and TvP are only at 30% or so. The only reason a Zerg or Protoss loses in a broadcasted match is because they don’t play their best. Unless those races make a mistake, it’s really hard for Terran to win. Until we come up with something new, it’ll continue to be hard for Terrans. Back when Toss was the OP race, Terran could at least deal with it. But now, there is nothing we can do against Zerg. If you have two players of equal skill, the Terran cannot beat the Zerg.
Oh boy - If this is actually Mvps thoughts i have found my new Quote to play by ;D