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On July 02 2013 15:49 Capped wrote: So many agreeing yet so many people rave about FF9 elsewhere.
Im still playing through it slowly, forcing myself past the slow battle system kicking and screaming, it really does suck.
Only thing worse is 8 imo, because i dont understand the draw system properly, or its just fucking terrible. He rated FF8 an 8.5/10. FF8, the worst final fintasy of the series. Even X-2 was better.
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On July 02 2013 23:07 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 15:49 Capped wrote: So many agreeing yet so many people rave about FF9 elsewhere.
Im still playing through it slowly, forcing myself past the slow battle system kicking and screaming, it really does suck.
Only thing worse is 8 imo, because i dont understand the draw system properly, or its just fucking terrible. He rated FF8 an 8.5/10. FF8, the worst final fintasy of the series. Even X-2 was better.
FF 8 wasn't the worst at all. It was unique with the combat system, and honestly the whole draw system was pretty tedious. But you could totally abuse the game become super OP and that was fun. THe story was pretty good, not to mention it is one of the best romances in video game history. X-2 was terrible, and boring.
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On July 02 2013 23:07 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 15:49 Capped wrote: So many agreeing yet so many people rave about FF9 elsewhere.
Im still playing through it slowly, forcing myself past the slow battle system kicking and screaming, it really does suck.
Only thing worse is 8 imo, because i dont understand the draw system properly, or its just fucking terrible. He rated FF8 an 8.5/10. FF8, the worst final fintasy of the series. Even X-2 was better.
Woah woah woah. Let's not say things we can't take back. 8 had it's issues to be sure but X-2 was NOT better, haha.
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On July 02 2013 22:38 HeeroFX wrote: I don't agree with your score at all. Final Fantasy 9 is by far a top 3 final fantasy game of all time. Reason is that it is a really traditional fantasy RPG with a very fun combat system, great cast of characters that you can care about. And the story is very good. There is so much stuff in the game to do and see. Yes I would say this game is pretty simple and not that hard at all, but Final Fantasy games aren't known for diffculty, I mean heck FF 8 if you take the time you can be so OP on disc one that the game is a breeze. They are know for a great story, and awesome characters. Maybe I am a little defensive, because I grew up playing this stuff. But this game deserves a 9/10
100% Personal opinion shouldnt be based upon giving points or rating any game IMO.
I rated my score from part of my personal opinion, compared to another sequels, looking from others point of view + i factored in whats to look for in general not just "hey, i grew up playing this and i had a lot of fun, it should be the best"
My first FF in the series was FF IV, it was hard playing a japanese version as a kid learning about all the spells/commands that i couldnt even read and finally conquered the game, to me, it was one of the best experiences i've had when i was young to overcame all those obstacles but it doesnt make it the best FF for me personally because when i get back to play it again, i see some flaws in it.
But one thing though, i understand that younger generation (ppl younger than 25 mostly) would preferred latest FF than the old ones, like 9 and up because by the time they get their hands on FF, the old ones graphics are already dated and ps1 and 2 already are popular.
I, II, III - i won't rate them, they're way too old for me. IV : 8 - 8.5 V : 9 - 9.5 (TBH the only thing i wanna complain about V is characters missing their faces the job system was incredibly genius) VI : 9.5 - 10 ( 10 doesnt mean perfect cuz theres always flaw when u try to find one, 10 is just for the best you could give to a game that is almost perfect, this game has everything to offer; difficulty (as long as you dont cheat, use faqs, know what to do before), story line, characters depth, graphic, music, uniqueness etc. VII : 9 - 9.5 (Mini games in this game are incredibly fun to play; chocobo breeding&racing, gold saucer, etc. not to mention one of the best system ever; MATERIA but man, bosses in this serie are way TOO EASY they posted no challenge at all) VIII : 8 max (personally 6-7) IX : 7 max (personally 5-6) X : 8 - 8.5 (personally 8) XI : didnt play XII : when i first saw 5, when i finally tried it 9 - 9.5 the only thing i will complain in this game is Quickenings, i mean, WTF was that ? enemies standing still and let you&your friends taking turn cheap shotting them.Yeah, make senses) XIII : 8 max to younger generation.Since 8 FF series started drifting away from being about Fantasy to Technology, should have just renamed the series to Final Technology so the FF fans could have save some bucks)
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On July 02 2013 23:07 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 15:49 Capped wrote: So many agreeing yet so many people rave about FF9 elsewhere.
Im still playing through it slowly, forcing myself past the slow battle system kicking and screaming, it really does suck.
Only thing worse is 8 imo, because i dont understand the draw system properly, or its just fucking terrible. He rated FF8 an 8.5/10. FF8, the worst final fintasy of the series. Even X-2 was better. Funny thing about ratings is that they are based upon opinion. 8 is probably my favorite FF in the series.
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Played I - III and VII - X and a bit of X-2. Can't rate the first three because they are too simple/old. Other than that: VII = IX > X > VIII > X-2(which I only played for a bit but it sucked so hard, I had to drop it).
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On July 03 2013 01:25 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 02 2013 23:07 PrinceXizor wrote:On July 02 2013 15:49 Capped wrote: So many agreeing yet so many people rave about FF9 elsewhere.
Im still playing through it slowly, forcing myself past the slow battle system kicking and screaming, it really does suck.
Only thing worse is 8 imo, because i dont understand the draw system properly, or its just fucking terrible. He rated FF8 an 8.5/10. FF8, the worst final fintasy of the series. Even X-2 was better. Funny thing about ratings is that they are based upon opinion. 8 is probably my favorite FF in the series.
I actually really enjoy the story, and like i said, i probably didnt understand the draw system.
In fact, i read his review and it spoke about shoehorning players into summoning all the time - thats exactly what i did. Then i grinded out 99 fires and was still weak as fuck, so i was like wut. Like i say i probably didnt grasp the concept. then i stopped when i returned to balamb and started FF9, which is better, but the combat is shit slow like he mentioned here.
Both have incredible stories, but their combat suffers immensely (FF8 for its fucktarded draw system, FF9 for its slowness) when compared to FF7, the only other "true" comparison, as only these three are 3d and on the PS1 (and FF's)
TL:DR, this guys reviews are legit.
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I honestly dont remember using the draw system at all. Attacks, magic, GF's, and the alternate attack thing is what I remember using. I will have to go back and play it again to doublecheck.
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I really enjoyed the chocobo treasure hunting in FFIX which made the game really good in my opinion. I liked the card game too even if it was sometimes rage inducing. But was never a fan of the childish look but in the end really seem to like the game.
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On July 03 2013 03:27 TheRabidDeer wrote: I honestly dont remember using the draw system at all. Attacks, magic, GF's, and the alternate attack thing is what I remember using. I will have to go back and play it again to doublecheck. draw is how you got magic. you essentially had to grind to get spells. and not the kind of grind where you kill alot of shit, the kind of grind where you kill 1 thing for 30 minutes to get spells from him. oh and then kill it in 1 hit after
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On July 03 2013 04:30 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2013 03:27 TheRabidDeer wrote: I honestly dont remember using the draw system at all. Attacks, magic, GF's, and the alternate attack thing is what I remember using. I will have to go back and play it again to doublecheck. draw is how you got magic. you essentially had to grind to get spells. and not the kind of grind where you kill alot of shit, the kind of grind where you kill 1 thing for 30 minutes to get spells from him. oh and then kill it in 1 hit after
I seriously want to know what Squares thinking when they look back at FF VIII... terrible system following an incredible one from VII.. what a shame
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* Final Fantasy IX was designed as the game that made references to its elders. Why are you complaining about that ? * It's also the grimmest game of the serie, the story which you mock is certainly deeper than the emancipation story in FFX or the ecological one in FFVII. Whether or not you understand and appreciate it is largely irrelevant to the inherent thoughtfullness of the subject at hand : the meaning of life and death.
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On July 02 2013 12:49 holdthephone wrote: As if trying to makeup for something at the last second, Final Fantasy IX begins to question the meaning of life in drawn out exposition, characters suddenly deciding they have no reason to live and other such nonsense. This was the theme of the game from the very beginning. Every single character's story follows them trying to find meaning, including Kuja's. The reason Necron serves as the final antagonist is he represents the idea that life has no meaning whatsoever, and is thus the antithesis of all the characters regardless of their alignment. FFIX is one of the only FF stories that follows a cohesive theme that binds the plot and all the characters, which is almost theatrical in its presentation - sensible given the game opens and closes on a stage.
In short, I don't agree with you.
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You have some writing skills but let that blinds your fairness, which is horrible for a review.
I played a lot of FF and the only game(s) that I replayed is FFIX and to a lesser extent FFVII. I played 9 in 3 different periods of time, yet it always made me feel good. It's relaxing and peaceful.
You like ff8, which is like a teen - movie, has bad main characters, awful "romantic' dialogues, so too bad your writing skills count for nothing.
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