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On August 29 2013 19:02 FrostedMiniWheats wrote: Keen should own this if he plays standard this time. He proxied for some odd reason the last time he hit Trap.. I am happy to see you were wrong and I knew Trap would kick their ass :D
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On August 29 2013 21:19 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:18 Swisslink wrote:On August 29 2013 21:16 bittman wrote: So will people build thors vs Mutas again? Or keep hoping that zerg players will keep running into widow mines? Well, Keen had absolutely nothing against the Mutalisks. That was just a horrible game by Keen tbh, after the 3/3 finished he should just have been able to kill Symbol, as he was only on 1/2. But yeah, he was caught in the middle of the map losing everything to banelings... Did you forget that Symbol had more than 30 mutas? This 3/3 talk is so overrated, 25+ mutas can compete just fine with 4M even if Terran has an upgrade lead.
2/1 Mutalisks against 3/3 marines, on 4 bases vs a 3 base terran? If your able to get rid of the entire Terran army in a cost efficient trade, the 25+ mutalisks just win the game, but before you do that... not really.
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On August 29 2013 21:19 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:18 Swisslink wrote:On August 29 2013 21:16 bittman wrote: So will people build thors vs Mutas again? Or keep hoping that zerg players will keep running into widow mines? Well, Keen had absolutely nothing against the Mutalisks. That was just a horrible game by Keen tbh, after the 3/3 finished he should just have been able to kill Symbol, as he was only on 1/2. But yeah, he was caught in the middle of the map losing everything to banelings... Did you forget that Symbol had more than 30 mutas? This 3/3 talk is so overrated, 25+ mutas can compete just fine with 4M even if Terran has an upgrade lead. Well, 25+ mutas can run around main 4M ball, other talk is when most of 4M is split in small parts and main army just died to lingbane engagement.
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On August 29 2013 21:21 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:19 TheDwf wrote:On August 29 2013 21:18 Swisslink wrote:On August 29 2013 21:16 bittman wrote: So will people build thors vs Mutas again? Or keep hoping that zerg players will keep running into widow mines? Well, Keen had absolutely nothing against the Mutalisks. That was just a horrible game by Keen tbh, after the 3/3 finished he should just have been able to kill Symbol, as he was only on 1/2. But yeah, he was caught in the middle of the map losing everything to banelings... Did you forget that Symbol had more than 30 mutas? This 3/3 talk is so overrated, 25+ mutas can compete just fine with 4M even if Terran has an upgrade lead. 2/1 Mutalisks against 3/3 marines, on 4 bases vs a 3 base terran? If your able to get rid of the entire Terran army in a cost efficient trade, the 25+ mutalisks just win the game, but before you do that... not really. Were not symbol's mutas only 2-0 or 1-0?
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Ugh, Keen should have just waited for 200 and taken his 4th and it would have been game over. It was a massive advantage thrown away.
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On August 29 2013 21:18 Swisslink wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:16 bittman wrote: So will people build thors vs Mutas again? Or keep hoping that zerg players will keep running into widow mines? Well, Keen had absolutely nothing against the Mutalisks. That was just a horrible game by Keen tbh, after the 3/3 finished he should just have been able to kill Symbol, as he was only on 1/2. But yeah, he was caught in the middle of the map losing everything to banelings... Symbol had 75 drones at 9 minutes and never got pressured. The 6 hellions were just running around the map while there was only two queens (with no tranfuses) defending for a long time.
Maybe if Keen had taken a fast 4th and made 20 barracks with reactors that can work. But you can't give symbol 80+ drones, wait 5 minutes and then attack...
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Now that Trap is through to ro16 I think Symbol going through would be fine. It's nice to see him be super consistent so making to another ro16/ro8 would be cool :3
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On August 29 2013 21:22 lolfail9001 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:21 Swisslink wrote:On August 29 2013 21:19 TheDwf wrote:On August 29 2013 21:18 Swisslink wrote:On August 29 2013 21:16 bittman wrote: So will people build thors vs Mutas again? Or keep hoping that zerg players will keep running into widow mines? Well, Keen had absolutely nothing against the Mutalisks. That was just a horrible game by Keen tbh, after the 3/3 finished he should just have been able to kill Symbol, as he was only on 1/2. But yeah, he was caught in the middle of the map losing everything to banelings... Did you forget that Symbol had more than 30 mutas? This 3/3 talk is so overrated, 25+ mutas can compete just fine with 4M even if Terran has an upgrade lead. 2/1 Mutalisks against 3/3 marines, on 4 bases vs a 3 base terran? If your able to get rid of the entire Terran army in a cost efficient trade, the 25+ mutalisks just win the game, but before you do that... not really. Were not symbol's mutas only 2-0 or 1-0?
I saw the 2/0 finish at one point, but I don't know if he kept on upgrading them to be honest.
But yeah, now it's Bel'Shir -> 1:1 xD
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Choo choo take a ride on the BBQ train!
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On August 29 2013 21:17 75 wrote: i like how overseers get hit more likely with the new speed if you dont target fire as terran
good game
Ha ha yes, this upgrade will backfire for quiet a few zergs.
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Oh man, 37 drones killed.
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37!? GG. Not even Artosis will save Symbol now.
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wow havent seen a drone bbq like that in a long time
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Welp that was terrifying.
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On August 29 2013 21:16 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2013 21:14 ETisME wrote: suddenly I feel like banking resources as terran is actually just expected. I thought it's because my macro was bad Banking gas beyond a certain point is standard, but banking minerals = bad macro. yea but he banked 1.5k minerals and gas for like 2 mins straight. then somehow he dropped the minerals to 400 after a while, guess he build some more rax or cc but they didn't show it or I missed it
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