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On September 05 2013 19:32 Yonnua wrote: Power rank continuing it's trend of ridiculous decisions. "Duckdeok only won WCS EU by beating non-koreans and MC so he can't be in the top 10, but Rain beat non-koreans and MC to get to the WCS Ro8! Clearly he deserves to be better than players that actually played well this month." The same logic seems to have been used throughout with Polt at 5 despite going straight out in WCS, Jaedong at 4 (despite Soulkey being on the list because he's the best korean zerg", Maru at 3 and Taeja at 2.
Rain did get 2nd in the OSL, and duckdeok floundered at the Season finals. Rain has just looked stronger.
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JD should be at #2 just for the irony. Gj
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Innovation below Polt and First??
This about this honestly:
You have to bet your life on one player to take the next WCS championship.
Which one would YOU bet your life on?
I think most people would agree while Innovation has lost a step, he surely hasn't lost 7.
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With the 2-4 spots being a close call, Jaedong should have received the #2 spot. He's been racking up so many second places lately, it's hard to deny him another one.
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On September 05 2013 11:35 Delorean80 wrote: I do not undersand.
So Scarlett cannot enter the Top10 after making Top4 in WCS AM beating Hero, Revival and Alive, only losing in a close 2-3 to Jaedong (Your Top4) in a tournament where also competed the likes of Taeja, Polt, Ryung... Then she makes Top8 in the season finals, beating MMA and Maru (current GSL champion and your Top3), then again only losing in a close 2-3 against the eventual champion Bomber (your Top1). And all of this "At a time when all Zergs are struggling" in you own words.
Sorry, it simply doesnt make any sense to me.
I really have to quote this.
Scarletts only losses were against top koreans, and she had some amazing runs. She absolutely deserves top 10 this time around, especially after her astounding ZvT.
She may have the best ZvT in the world at the moment, I wouldn't take that lightly.
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On September 05 2013 22:26 Caladan wrote: Foreigners' situation is sad. Naniwa in a slump (out of WCS already!)
No, he is´nt. He lost 1 series to TargA, but shit happens. He also finally overcame duckdeok, eliminated Innovation in WCS and took a map of Jaedong in ZvP in a tournament, where he beat First and Rain x-0 and qualified for IEM NY, clearly beating Stardust and a bunch of others on the way.
On September 05 2013 22:26 Caladan wrote: Scarlett not having the spirit (taking a "break")
Although I´m not the biggest Scarlett-fan, I´m pretty sure she does have the "spirit", but does´nt have the wirsts.
On September 05 2013 22:26 Caladan wrote: and Stephano retiring (after too many losses?) People retire. Do you expect everyone to play until they are 30? Surely Stephano is a huge loss, but his retirement was sure for a long time now.
On September 05 2013 22:26 Caladan wrote: Koreans are now miles and miles away and have finally achieved complete dominance over the world, like in Broodwar days.
Koreans are better. They always were. They will always be and noone disagrees with you there. But comparing he dominance to bw, when the OSL and World champion just got knocked out by foreigners is ridiculos. If you compare the Season 2 finals results with the 2011 GSL championship, the situation is pretty much the same.
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On September 05 2013 23:08 Figgy wrote: Innovation below Polt and First??
This about this honestly:
You have to bet your life on one player to take the next WCS championship.
Which one would YOU bet your life on?
I think most people would agree while Innovation has lost a step, he surely hasn't lost 7.
But this isn't what the power rankings are about... It is about results for that month (and to a lesser extent, the previous months).
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Canada8157 Posts
On September 05 2013 23:16 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 23:08 Figgy wrote: Innovation below Polt and First??
This about this honestly:
You have to bet your life on one player to take the next WCS championship.
Which one would YOU bet your life on?
I think most people would agree while Innovation has lost a step, he surely hasn't lost 7. But this isn't what the power rankings are about... It is about results for that month (and to a lesser extent, the previous months).
A lot of people seem to be overlooking that fact. It was already clear that innovation was prone to early and mid game aggression, and players abused that at the finals
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On September 05 2013 23:11 Figgy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 11:35 Delorean80 wrote: I do not undersand.
So Scarlett cannot enter the Top10 after making Top4 in WCS AM beating Hero, Revival and Alive, only losing in a close 2-3 to Jaedong (Your Top4) in a tournament where also competed the likes of Taeja, Polt, Ryung... Then she makes Top8 in the season finals, beating MMA and Maru (current GSL champion and your Top3), then again only losing in a close 2-3 against the eventual champion Bomber (your Top1). And all of this "At a time when all Zergs are struggling" in you own words.
Sorry, it simply doesnt make any sense to me. I really have to quote this. Scarletts only losses were against top koreans, and she had some amazing runs. She absolutely deserves top 10 this time around, especially after her astounding ZvT. She may have the best ZvT in the world at the moment, I wouldn't take that lightly. Her ZvT is good, but have you met Soulkey?
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Wow, I can't agree a lot . My god, why soulkey is there? Why Parting is there? Scarlett have done way better than both of them in this month, even Naniwa i would agree more than both of them. Bomber first i agree. Taeja 2nd? Why he is there? yeah he show to us amazing games, but he didn't accomplished nothing. JD I would put him perhaps a little better, but is fine. Maru have won WCS korea, but in WCS finals he get crushed, so #3 is ok. And duckdeock deserve more than Parting the #10 but not that much...
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On September 06 2013 00:44 Darkhoarse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2013 23:11 Figgy wrote:On September 05 2013 11:35 Delorean80 wrote: I do not undersand.
So Scarlett cannot enter the Top10 after making Top4 in WCS AM beating Hero, Revival and Alive, only losing in a close 2-3 to Jaedong (Your Top4) in a tournament where also competed the likes of Taeja, Polt, Ryung... Then she makes Top8 in the season finals, beating MMA and Maru (current GSL champion and your Top3), then again only losing in a close 2-3 against the eventual champion Bomber (your Top1). And all of this "At a time when all Zergs are struggling" in you own words.
Sorry, it simply doesnt make any sense to me. I really have to quote this. Scarletts only losses were against top koreans, and she had some amazing runs. She absolutely deserves top 10 this time around, especially after her astounding ZvT. She may have the best ZvT in the world at the moment, I wouldn't take that lightly. Her ZvT is good, but have you met Soulkey? Innovation has, was easy.
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I'm the only who thinks koreas are losing that invincibility aura that was before? A lot of top foregins pro-players are beating top code s players a lot recently.
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East Gorteau22261 Posts
On September 05 2013 23:08 Figgy wrote: Innovation below Polt and First??
This about this honestly:
You have to bet your life on one player to take the next WCS championship.
Which one would YOU bet your life on?
I think most people would agree while Innovation has lost a step, he surely hasn't lost 7.
Well, Polt at least managed to beat Naniwa so I guess I'd bet on him to win =D
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If this trend continues, by this time next year Koreans will become the new "foreigners".
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Sad to see Innovation fall so far, but I have no doubt in my mind that the Robot Terran will have a resurgence now that he's on Acer.
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On September 06 2013 01:08 renaissanceMAN wrote: Sad to see Innovation fall so far, but I have no doubt in my mind that the Robot Terran will have a resurgence now that he's on Acer.
He already have done all-kill on GSTL :D
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I mostly agree with this power rank.
Glad to see Jaedong climbing the ranks.
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On September 06 2013 01:09 Mocking wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2013 01:08 renaissanceMAN wrote: Sad to see Innovation fall so far, but I have no doubt in my mind that the Robot Terran will have a resurgence now that he's on Acer. He already have done all-kill on GSTL :D
And he's going to do even better.
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Jaedong > Taeja. A little TL bias going on?
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Canada8157 Posts
On September 06 2013 01:23 RiSkysc2 wrote: Jaedong > Taeja. A little TL bias going on?
I disagree. If they had met in either finals, Taeja would have crushed JD
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