On March 15 2014 01:32 VKCA wrote:
I wish he had of just not played and given the spot to someone else....
I wish he had of just not played and given the spot to someone else....
word .
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kugel
Germany116 Posts
On March 15 2014 01:32 VKCA wrote: I wish he had of just not played and given the spot to someone else.... word . | ||
alukarD
Mexico396 Posts
He is a person. A complicated one. He has given too much to the community already (or the community has taken it?) Enjoy your break. | ||
Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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pms
Poland611 Posts
On March 15 2014 04:17 dsousa wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 04:10 pms wrote: On March 15 2014 04:03 Naphal wrote: i really love the reaction of the crowd, naniwa should have vacated the spot a month ago and deserves every amount of spite that now goes his way, no doubt he managed to multiply it once again! No, I don't think it was a good reaction, cause it just gave too much attention to Naniwa ATM. Anyway, I will copy what I wrote before to answer the second part of your message: Naniwa has rights to do whatever he likes and I'm laughing at everybody who thinks differently. That's because he earned what he had. You guys earned nothing. I don't know what happened today or in the last month with Naniwa, but I'm definitively not going to jump on the same wagon as all the people who are so fast to judge Naniwa and to take away his spot from IEM and his contributions to SC2 competitions. What the heck? If the audience is so important then why they don't choose the players for the tournaments themselves? Guys, listen to yourself. Do you hear the ridiculousness? I agree it was Naniwa's right to keep the spot, no doubt. I think its <1% that Naniwa planned for this to happen, I think, deep down, he knew he couldn't beat Polt and he found a quick way out. When was the bracket release? When Naniwa drew Polt.... thats when, subconsciously, he started looking for a way out. His behaviour then manifested his "way out". The proxy in the first game is also an indicator of wanting to quit and get it over quick. Naniwa knows winning is the only thing keeping him in SC2, and he wants out. Yup. That's a good analysis. Yet people will hate him because it fits them. Naniwa is egocentric and the crowd is egocentric. Real world is not beautiful. | ||
ThePlagueJG
Sweden1010 Posts
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WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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superpanda27
111 Posts
On March 15 2014 04:10 pms wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 04:03 Naphal wrote: i really love the reaction of the crowd, naniwa should have vacated the spot a month ago and deserves every amount of spite that now goes his way, no doubt he managed to multiply it once again! No, I don't think it was a good reaction, cause it just gave too much attention to Naniwa ATM. Anyway, I will copy what I wrote before to answer the second part of your message: Naniwa has rights to do whatever he likes and I'm laughing at everybody who thinks differently. That's because he earned what he had. You guys earned nothing. I don't know what happened today or in the last month with Naniwa, but I'm definitively not going to jump on the same wagon as all the people who are so fast to judge Naniwa and to take away his spot from IEM and his contributions to SC2 competitions. What the heck? If the audience is so important then why they don't choose the players for the tournaments themselves? Guys, listen to yourself. Do you hear the ridiculousness? Yeah he has rights to do whatever he wants, does not mean people have to like it. If he came in today, not prepared to win, to even try to win, then why even come today? He has said that he hasn't been playing lately, so why even come to the IEM World Championship unprepared? Forfeit that spot even though he earned that spot at IEM New York. His accomplishments do not matter. What he has done in the past for SC2 does not matter other than the fact that he qualified for this event through IEM New York. He doesn't owe anyone anything, but he just wasted everyone's time. He disappointed a lot of the fans that came to see him and the ones who were excited to see the best foreigner play against one of the best Koreans. Naniwa does deserve the boos that he got at the venue. While he has had a great career in SC2, it's unfortunate that this had to happen. Especially considering that this may be the end of his career. | ||
sharkie
Austria18008 Posts
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dsousa
United States1363 Posts
On March 15 2014 04:20 KaiserJohan wrote: Viewership goes nuts when Naniwa has been playing. Like it or not, people desperately want to see him above anyone else, him going away is a big loss for SC2. Yes, but really many root for him mostly because he's been one of the best foreigners. His personal has always been secondary to the fact that he has some big wins and was a threat to top Koreans. If Naniwa leaves, it creates a space for a new foreign hope. .... but ya, some foreigner will need to keep up. Nani was literally only non KR in IEM bracket. | ||
Saumure
France404 Posts
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scotch4789
United States42 Posts
The proxy in the first game is also an indicator of wanting to quit and get it over quick. I suspect it was the same thing with his WCS EU play | ||
LamaMitHut
Germany187 Posts
On March 15 2014 04:14 Zealously wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 04:06 LamaMitHut wrote: On March 15 2014 03:09 Zealously wrote: On March 15 2014 03:03 pms wrote: On March 15 2014 02:53 Zealously wrote: On March 15 2014 02:46 pms wrote: On March 15 2014 02:40 Dismay wrote: On March 15 2014 02:39 pms wrote: On March 15 2014 02:32 Ansinjunger wrote: If it's true Naniwa said he took the spot to take advantage of the hotel, that's pretty dishonest. He's shown quite a bit of disregard for fans/his fans. I don't know why people are defending him. That's not to say he's unforgivable--that goes too far, but right now, he's wronged the audience and there's no point making excuses. I don't understand people like you. You think that you deserve something, because of what exactly? Because you seat in the front of computer watching? Who are you? Naniwa earned whatever he had. He wanted to win and only to win. There is only one God in tournaments like that. It's the competition. Naniwa was giving all to the competition. What the hell gave you??? He certainly gave his all today. Your memory is one-day long or what? Pathetic crybabies in the audience need to eat today, so they will trash whoever doesn't deliver them food. It's hilarious to see people hoarding like sheep. From one fan to another, are you actually defending Naniwa's actions today (or the last week)? He has rights to do whatever he likes and I'm laughing at everybody who thinks differently. That's because he earned what he had. You guys earned nothing. I don't know what happened today or in the last month with Naniwa, but I'm definitively not going to jump on the same wagon as all the people who are so fast to judge Naniwa and to take away his spot from IEM and his contributions to SC2 competitions. What the heck? If the audience is so important then why they don't choose the players for the tournaments themselves? Guys, listen to yourself. Do you hear the ridiculousness? I was a fan until last week because of the contributions you talk about. He's played stunningly awesome games against a wide array of top opponents and made me scream and shout and jump with glee, but I can't support the kind of unsportsmanlike bullshit Naniwa pulled today. That makes me really sad, but it's how I - and a lot of others - feel. Naniwa is not above criticism because he has done well in the past. wtf... you never, never, NEVER were a fan of naniwa. every true fan knows, that naniwa does not give any stinking shit about "sportsmanship" or stuff like that. You don't decide whether or not I am or was a fan of someone, nor do you get to decide who is a "true fan" and who isn't. I was willing to look past much of the stuff Naniwa pulled because his mindset and singular devotion to becoming a champion was inspiring, but there is a limit to what I can shrug off. Naniwa may not give much of a shit about sportsmanship (although he on several occasions claimed that he had learned to), but I do. I do not have to think like Naniwa to be a fan of him. no, i can not decide if you were a fan of naniwa or not. in my opinion "beeing a true fan" just means more than "i liked his playstyle / skill / effort". | ||
Gen.Rolly
United States200 Posts
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Yourmomsbasement
Canada87 Posts
Nani na na, Nani nana, hey hey hey, goodbye.... | ||
LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On March 15 2014 04:27 Gen.Rolly wrote: Naniwa should of checked on soundproofing before executing such a strategy. Alternatively, Polt could have proxied and Naniwa would have been alerted - my point is that the conditions were still fair. Naniwa greatly disrespects the foreign community and his Korean competitors with his arrogance. Imho, GTFO Naniwa. Wasn't a soundproofing issue. Polt scouts that way frequently. | ||
AxiomBlurr
786 Posts
1) Players have a right to forfeit. 2) All players are competing under the same circumstances - the same environment. 3) Nani has lost the little face he had left but found a substantial beergut to compensate. 4) Making a mountain out of a molehill is never wise. 5) When in doubt blame others for your own failings. 6) If a black sheep bleats in a lonely paddock and no one hears him, does he exist? 7) IEM Katowice and HoTS are super!!! | ||
pms
Poland611 Posts
On March 15 2014 04:22 ThePlagueJG wrote: I respect a lot of the people in this thread, its been a lot more rewarding to read than reddit this time around(feels like pure hate and no reason). Some of these haters will calm down with time, others will never get it. In a way, it's a natural selection For me, Naniwa is Mike Tyson of Starcraft. Let's see if he returns. | ||
darkscream
Canada2310 Posts
I don't blame soundproofing for him losing a game to polt with a completely amateur strategy and execution, and I really do hope we don't see any more Naniwa. He just does not seem happy to be part of the community or really care if he gets a chance to play on stage. Starcraft 2 isn't in a place where we can support obnoxious bad boys anymore. | ||
dUTtrOACh
Canada2339 Posts
On March 15 2014 04:32 pms wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 04:22 ThePlagueJG wrote: I respect a lot of the people in this thread, its been a lot more rewarding to read than reddit this time around(feels like pure hate and no reason). Some of these haters will calm down with time, others will never get it. In a way, it's a natural selection For me, Naniwa is Mike Tyson of Starcraft. Let's see if he returns. inb4 Boxer. | ||
Wiciu87
Poland14 Posts
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