On March 15 2014 01:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
my post was relative to HotS.
my post was relative to HotS.
I know. It sucks to be all smug and passive aggressive only to realize you misread the quoted post
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On March 15 2014 01:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote: my post was relative to HotS. I know. It sucks to be all smug and passive aggressive only to realize you misread the quoted post | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 15 2014 01:30 -Archangel- wrote: I don't understand the point these few DK fanboys are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? The only thing I understood is they are claiming HotS is OK while it is losing viewers and players all the time (which started back in WoL and only stopped at beginning of HotS)... is that it? Viewers have been consistent for the last 8 month and the players that are retiring are young guys moving on to differ parts of their lives. It's a crowded field for SC2 players. Proleague is going strong and gaining viewers. So, not dead game. Plenty of people like what they are seeing and playing. | ||
RampancyTW
United States577 Posts
On March 15 2014 01:33 Sapphire.lux wrote: So is this your attempt at an apology, or..?I know. It sucks to be all smug and passive aggressive only to realize you misread the quoted post You started the conversation with him, not the other way around. He's been talking about HotS the whole time. | ||
Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On March 15 2014 01:30 -Archangel- wrote: I don't understand the point these few DK fanboys are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? The only thing I understood is they are claiming HotS is OK while it is losing viewers and players all the time (which started back in WoL and only stopped at beginning of HotS)... is that it? I don't understand the point these few haters are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? WCS, IEM, Proleague all feature great games all the time. SC2 is the best it has ever been. The Starter Edition has brought some more players into the game. SC2 is by far the biggest RTS game out there. Blame a lack of competition on it, but in a free market we explain a lack of competition usually with one of those two theories: the top dog is too dominant for competitors to come up - so SC2 is great. Or the demand for the product is simply low - so it is not SC2's fault that it cannot compete with products of other genres. Also I cannot follow your point about players/viewers leaving. The numbers seem to be fairly stable for the last years. Which is a pretty good achievement for a buy-to-play-PC-game. Usually those games hang in much shorter than 4years. | ||
SuperYo1000
United States880 Posts
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9-BiT
United States1089 Posts
"We have spent a considerable time analyzing how each mechanic effects the game" *2 hours later on TL* "Wow, he just dodges every question". | ||
HawaiinStyle
United States3 Posts
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Survivor61316
United States470 Posts
On March 15 2014 09:01 Big J wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 01:30 -Archangel- wrote: I don't understand the point these few DK fanboys are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? The only thing I understood is they are claiming HotS is OK while it is losing viewers and players all the time (which started back in WoL and only stopped at beginning of HotS)... is that it? I don't understand the point these few haters are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? WCS, IEM, Proleague all feature great games all the time. SC2 is the best it has ever been. The Starter Edition has brought some more players into the game. SC2 is by far the biggest RTS game out there. Blame a lack of competition on it, but in a free market we explain a lack of competition usually with one of those two theories: the top dog is too dominant for competitors to come up - so SC2 is great. Or the demand for the product is simply low - so it is not SC2's fault that it cannot compete with products of other genres. Also I cannot follow your point about players/viewers leaving. The numbers seem to be fairly stable for the last years. Which is a pretty good achievement for a buy-to-play-PC-game. Usually those games hang in much shorter than 4years. Lol yeah 18 pages of fact based complaints equal a "few" haters..get real dude, you're in the minority | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
On March 15 2014 01:33 Sapphire.lux wrote: I know. It sucks to be all smug and passive aggressive only to realize you misread the quoted post but, it also applies to an expansion relative to the main game as well. the main game has 10 times as much resources dedicated to it as any expansion. the same discussion will happen in the management offices about resources and big changes regarding how to approach LotV. Browder got a promotion so Blizzard is happy with his work on SC2, they are not going to overhaul the game on an expansion. i'm happy with the game, watching IEM... things look good to me. playing the game, its still fun for me so i hope Blizzard just follows the guidelines David Kim outlines in the Reddit AMA. i believe in David Kim more than even Harvey Dent. i predict LotV will give us changes of the same magnitude or smaller than HotS. Therefore, if someone is dissatisfied with SC2, i'd recommend they play a different RTS. Hoping and wishing for Blizz to make wholesale changes is absurb because it's not going to happen. | ||
ETisME
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
On March 15 2014 22:22 ETisME wrote: WRONG THREAD your error does show how exciting today's PvP mirror match at IEM is though. nice job by David Kim in improving P v P over the years. "this is not supposed to work" , ToD but it did work i believe in David Kim. | ||
ETisME
12083 Posts
On March 15 2014 22:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote: your error does show how exciting today's PvP mirror match at IEM is though. nice job by David Kim in improving P v P over the years. "this is now supposed to work" , ToD but it did work i believe in David Kim. PvP is getting so awesome, I was gonna skip Code S group C but hell, that was even more fun to watch than group B :D and now the PvP in IEM is getting that level of excitment too! | ||
Lorch
Germany3657 Posts
Atleast they are looking at the carrier for LOTV. | ||
Dingodile
4123 Posts
A vs B 1:2 (1:0) C vs D 1:2 (1:0) A had a lead by 1:0 and lost with own goal its game. C had a lead by 1:0, then D does a "catch up" with 2 goals. In sc2 such "comeback" works to ~80% like A vs B. This is why watching sc2 s mostly frustating and sad, own goal and another own goal... I have watched wc3, bw, aoe, c&c, there were not many "own goal", much lesser than 20%. | ||
Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On March 15 2014 22:15 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 01:33 Sapphire.lux wrote: On March 15 2014 01:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote: my post was relative to HotS. I know. It sucks to be all smug and passive aggressive only to realize you misread the quoted post but, it also applies to an expansion relative to the main game as well. the main game has 10 times as much resources dedicated to it as any expansion. the same discussion will happen in the management offices about resources and big changes regarding how to approach LotV. Browder got a promotion so Blizzard is happy with his work on SC2, they are not going to overhaul the game on an expansion. i'm happy with the game, watching IEM... things look good to me. playing the game, its still fun for me so i hope Blizzard just follows the guidelines David Kim outlines in the Reddit AMA. i believe in David Kim more than even Harvey Dent. i predict LotV will give us changes of the same magnitude or smaller than HotS. Therefore, if someone is dissatisfied with SC2, i'd recommend they play a different RTS. Hoping and wishing for Blizz to make wholesale changes is absurb because it's not going to happen. Well, Blizzard being happy with the game is a better argument then "they don't want to spit in dustins face". Glad you came around | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 15 2014 16:29 Survivor61316 wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 09:01 Big J wrote: On March 15 2014 01:30 -Archangel- wrote: I don't understand the point these few DK fanboys are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? The only thing I understood is they are claiming HotS is OK while it is losing viewers and players all the time (which started back in WoL and only stopped at beginning of HotS)... is that it? I don't understand the point these few haters are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? WCS, IEM, Proleague all feature great games all the time. SC2 is the best it has ever been. The Starter Edition has brought some more players into the game. SC2 is by far the biggest RTS game out there. Blame a lack of competition on it, but in a free market we explain a lack of competition usually with one of those two theories: the top dog is too dominant for competitors to come up - so SC2 is great. Or the demand for the product is simply low - so it is not SC2's fault that it cannot compete with products of other genres. Also I cannot follow your point about players/viewers leaving. The numbers seem to be fairly stable for the last years. Which is a pretty good achievement for a buy-to-play-PC-game. Usually those games hang in much shorter than 4years. Lol yeah 18 pages of fact based complaints equal a "few" haters..get real dude, you're in the minority Pro tip for life, number of pages in a thread is not reflective of reality as a whole. Sometimes it is the inverse. | ||
saddaromma
1129 Posts
On March 15 2014 23:23 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 16:29 Survivor61316 wrote: On March 15 2014 09:01 Big J wrote: On March 15 2014 01:30 -Archangel- wrote: I don't understand the point these few DK fanboys are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? The only thing I understood is they are claiming HotS is OK while it is losing viewers and players all the time (which started back in WoL and only stopped at beginning of HotS)... is that it? I don't understand the point these few haters are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? WCS, IEM, Proleague all feature great games all the time. SC2 is the best it has ever been. The Starter Edition has brought some more players into the game. SC2 is by far the biggest RTS game out there. Blame a lack of competition on it, but in a free market we explain a lack of competition usually with one of those two theories: the top dog is too dominant for competitors to come up - so SC2 is great. Or the demand for the product is simply low - so it is not SC2's fault that it cannot compete with products of other genres. Also I cannot follow your point about players/viewers leaving. The numbers seem to be fairly stable for the last years. Which is a pretty good achievement for a buy-to-play-PC-game. Usually those games hang in much shorter than 4years. Lol yeah 18 pages of fact based complaints equal a "few" haters..get real dude, you're in the minority Pro tip for life, number of pages in a thread is not reflective of reality as a whole. Sometimes it is the inverse. But that doesn't mean there are 'few' haters. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 15 2014 23:40 saddaromma wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 23:23 Plansix wrote: On March 15 2014 16:29 Survivor61316 wrote: On March 15 2014 09:01 Big J wrote: On March 15 2014 01:30 -Archangel- wrote: I don't understand the point these few DK fanboys are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? The only thing I understood is they are claiming HotS is OK while it is losing viewers and players all the time (which started back in WoL and only stopped at beginning of HotS)... is that it? I don't understand the point these few haters are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? WCS, IEM, Proleague all feature great games all the time. SC2 is the best it has ever been. The Starter Edition has brought some more players into the game. SC2 is by far the biggest RTS game out there. Blame a lack of competition on it, but in a free market we explain a lack of competition usually with one of those two theories: the top dog is too dominant for competitors to come up - so SC2 is great. Or the demand for the product is simply low - so it is not SC2's fault that it cannot compete with products of other genres. Also I cannot follow your point about players/viewers leaving. The numbers seem to be fairly stable for the last years. Which is a pretty good achievement for a buy-to-play-PC-game. Usually those games hang in much shorter than 4years. Lol yeah 18 pages of fact based complaints equal a "few" haters..get real dude, you're in the minority Pro tip for life, number of pages in a thread is not reflective of reality as a whole. Sometimes it is the inverse. But that doesn't mean there are 'few' haters. Compared to the 40K people watching and enjoying ESL right now. Its a few. The minority even. | ||
saddaromma
1129 Posts
On March 15 2014 23:49 Plansix wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 23:40 saddaromma wrote: On March 15 2014 23:23 Plansix wrote: On March 15 2014 16:29 Survivor61316 wrote: On March 15 2014 09:01 Big J wrote: On March 15 2014 01:30 -Archangel- wrote: I don't understand the point these few DK fanboys are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? The only thing I understood is they are claiming HotS is OK while it is losing viewers and players all the time (which started back in WoL and only stopped at beginning of HotS)... is that it? I don't understand the point these few haters are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? WCS, IEM, Proleague all feature great games all the time. SC2 is the best it has ever been. The Starter Edition has brought some more players into the game. SC2 is by far the biggest RTS game out there. Blame a lack of competition on it, but in a free market we explain a lack of competition usually with one of those two theories: the top dog is too dominant for competitors to come up - so SC2 is great. Or the demand for the product is simply low - so it is not SC2's fault that it cannot compete with products of other genres. Also I cannot follow your point about players/viewers leaving. The numbers seem to be fairly stable for the last years. Which is a pretty good achievement for a buy-to-play-PC-game. Usually those games hang in much shorter than 4years. Lol yeah 18 pages of fact based complaints equal a "few" haters..get real dude, you're in the minority Pro tip for life, number of pages in a thread is not reflective of reality as a whole. Sometimes it is the inverse. But that doesn't mean there are 'few' haters. Compared to the 40K people watching and enjoying ESL right now. Its a few. The minority even. Thats not an indication. A better way to find out is to check what people say in battle.net, chats, tl and reddit.usually 1 out of 5 posts is positive whereas other posts are negative.Therefore I believe haters are actually the majority. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 15 2014 23:57 saddaromma wrote: Show nested quote + On March 15 2014 23:49 Plansix wrote: On March 15 2014 23:40 saddaromma wrote: On March 15 2014 23:23 Plansix wrote: On March 15 2014 16:29 Survivor61316 wrote: On March 15 2014 09:01 Big J wrote: On March 15 2014 01:30 -Archangel- wrote: I don't understand the point these few DK fanboys are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? The only thing I understood is they are claiming HotS is OK while it is losing viewers and players all the time (which started back in WoL and only stopped at beginning of HotS)... is that it? I don't understand the point these few haters are trying to make. Can anyone explain it to me? WCS, IEM, Proleague all feature great games all the time. SC2 is the best it has ever been. The Starter Edition has brought some more players into the game. SC2 is by far the biggest RTS game out there. Blame a lack of competition on it, but in a free market we explain a lack of competition usually with one of those two theories: the top dog is too dominant for competitors to come up - so SC2 is great. Or the demand for the product is simply low - so it is not SC2's fault that it cannot compete with products of other genres. Also I cannot follow your point about players/viewers leaving. The numbers seem to be fairly stable for the last years. Which is a pretty good achievement for a buy-to-play-PC-game. Usually those games hang in much shorter than 4years. Lol yeah 18 pages of fact based complaints equal a "few" haters..get real dude, you're in the minority Pro tip for life, number of pages in a thread is not reflective of reality as a whole. Sometimes it is the inverse. But that doesn't mean there are 'few' haters. Compared to the 40K people watching and enjoying ESL right now. Its a few. The minority even. Thats not an indication. A better way to find out is to check what people say in battle.net, chats, tl and reddit.usually 1 out of 5 posts is positive whereas other posts are negative.Therefore I believe haters are actually the majority. No that's a terrible way, but I can see why you would want to lean that sort of chat to prove your point. People don't actively watch things they dislike. | ||
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