On May 29 2014 08:42 jakethesnake wrote:
Nothing is more dangerous than a reformed cheeser. Just look at Maru.
Nothing is more dangerous than a reformed cheeser. Just look at Maru.
FlaSh would be an even better example.
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RHoudini
Belgium3626 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:42 jakethesnake wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:41 Shellshock wrote: Remember when everyone thought heart was a cheesy player that would just fade away? Nothing is more dangerous than a reformed cheeser. Just look at Maru. FlaSh would be an even better example. | ||
AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:46 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote: On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote: Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro. Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits + they tank a shit load of banelings + they splash over a shit load of banelings hellbats are really really good now Nah, we should just wait till Life/Soulkey/Curious play a ZvT. So we going to see Soulkey crush Innovation? | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:47 AWalker9 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:46 stuchiu wrote: On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote: On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote: Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro. Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits + they tank a shit load of banelings + they splash over a shit load of banelings hellbats are really really good now Nah, we should just wait till Life/Soulkey/Curious play a ZvT. So we going to see Soulkey crush Innovation? Can Innovation get out of his group? | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:46 RHoudini wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:42 jakethesnake wrote: On May 29 2014 08:41 Shellshock wrote: Remember when everyone thought heart was a cheesy player that would just fade away? Nothing is more dangerous than a reformed cheeser. Just look at Maru. FlaSh would be an even better example. Shine is an even better example when he beat Flash in Code A. | ||
Squat
Sweden7978 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote: Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro. Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits + they tank a shit load of banelings + they splash over a shit load of banelings hellbats are really really good now As long as you fight on creep, standard muta/bane/ling armies can overwhelm just fine still. I feel the threat is quite overstated. There is no reason for zergs to abandon a perfectly winnable macro game to coinflip and hope the terran doesn't see roaches coming. | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
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KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:47 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:47 AWalker9 wrote: On May 29 2014 08:46 stuchiu wrote: On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote: On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote: Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro. Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits + they tank a shit load of banelings + they splash over a shit load of banelings hellbats are really really good now Nah, we should just wait till Life/Soulkey/Curious play a ZvT. So we going to see Soulkey crush Innovation? Can Innovation get out of his group? Can Shine continue to fuel stichiu's needs? | ||
Darkhorse
United States23454 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:47 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:47 AWalker9 wrote: On May 29 2014 08:46 stuchiu wrote: On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote: On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote: Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro. Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits + they tank a shit load of banelings + they splash over a shit load of banelings hellbats are really really good now Nah, we should just wait till Life/Soulkey/Curious play a ZvT. So we going to see Soulkey crush Innovation? Can Innovation get out of his group? Not in first that's for sure. | ||
AWalker9
United Kingdom7229 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:48 stuchiu wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:46 RHoudini wrote: On May 29 2014 08:42 jakethesnake wrote: On May 29 2014 08:41 Shellshock wrote: Remember when everyone thought heart was a cheesy player that would just fade away? Nothing is more dangerous than a reformed cheeser. Just look at Maru. FlaSh would be an even better example. Shine is an even better example when he beat Flash in Code A. Shine beating sOs is a good example as well. | ||
Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:45 Jer99 wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:44 PhoenixVoid wrote: Wonder why all the Zergs are going for these Roach builds against Heart, he's a very Bio-centric player and has solid macro. Maybe zergs have lost a lot of hope in opening standard due to the hellbat buff, it's incredibly hard to break the 4M push now that hellbats can cover the corners of your bio splits + they tank a shit load of banelings + they splash over a shit load of banelings hellbats are really really good now wat? hellbats are very mediocre everytime i saw someone prefer hellbats instead of mines on korean level i watched him die to banes only | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32725 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:48 ThomasjServo wrote: Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace. First with people expecting Jim, then Jaedong losing, and now Heart possibly defeating both Jaedong and HyuN, two favorites. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23454 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:48 ThomasjServo wrote: Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace. Sometimes they do well when stuchiu/Templar/myself + a few others are commenting a lot. Also when popular players like JD and Hyun are playing. | ||
KingofdaHipHop
United States25602 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:48 ThomasjServo wrote: Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace. You're welcome. + Show Spoiler + jk, everybody is very excited about these games it seems! | ||
imre
France9263 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:42 jakethesnake wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:41 Shellshock wrote: Remember when everyone thought heart was a cheesy player that would just fade away? Nothing is more dangerous than a reformed cheeser. Just look at Maru. or Flash, MKP etc... | ||
ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:49 Darkhorse wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:48 ThomasjServo wrote: Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace. Sometimes they do well when stuchiu/Templar/myself + a few others are commenting a lot. Also when popular players like JD and Hyun are playing. Not the Templar replying to himself ad infinitum doing LR. XD | ||
Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
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The_Templar
your Country52796 Posts
Heart spawns in the top right HyuN spawns in the bottom left 2:00 Hatchery first followed by a spawning pool for HyuN. Heart getting a reaper first. 3:00 Heart expands. Reactor on the barracks after this first reapers. HyuN already got his zerglings and is getting two queens. Heart building a factory. 4:00 Heart moves out with a few marines. HyuN patrolled zerglings on his main cliff. Heart getting a starport. 5:00 Hellions and reaper deny a third. HyuN takes a different third. HyuN getting a roach warren and two evolution chambers. | ||
Darkhorse
United States23454 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:50 ThomasjServo wrote: Show nested quote + On May 29 2014 08:49 Darkhorse wrote: On May 29 2014 08:48 ThomasjServo wrote: Holy hell this WCS NA thread is actually moving at a decent pace. Sometimes they do well when stuchiu/Templar/myself + a few others are commenting a lot. Also when popular players like JD and Hyun are playing. Not the Templar replying to himself ad infinitum doing LR. XD :D | ||
PhoenixVoid
Canada32725 Posts
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Darkhorse
United States23454 Posts
On May 29 2014 08:50 Jer99 wrote: I normally don't comment much in LR threads either as I have only 1 screen but there is good content in here tonight Shall I balance whine and caster bash and post JD sheep to bring down the quality? But in all seriousness I'm going to start mixing in more hellbats in my TvZ's. | ||
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