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Zax19
Czech Republic1136 Posts
Well, no Lazarus Pit. Strange, they already mentioned supernatural stuff with Flash so why not this? | ||
Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
On January 29 2015 20:24 Zax19 wrote: + Show Spoiler + Well, no Lazarus Pit. Strange, they already mentioned supernatural stuff with Flash so why not this? + Show Spoiler + Did they really explain how they brought him back to life though? I think its got to be a supernatural thing in some way. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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0x64
Finland4401 Posts
On January 29 2015 20:26 Jaaaaasper wrote: + Show Spoiler + Did they really explain how they brought him back to life though? I think its got to be a supernatural thing in some way. I think she did'nt actually understood how it happened herself. | ||
saocyn
United States937 Posts
On January 29 2015 21:01 Kipsate wrote: Laurel as Canary is so fucking dumb she was intentionally supposed to be black canary to begin with it was foreshadowed. i'm assuming the show attempted a build up for her transition but it's kind of less believable due to how quick it happened. she had like 1 boxing session now she can kick everyones ass rofl... | ||
Oldfool
Australia394 Posts
On January 29 2015 22:26 saocyn wrote: she was intentionally supposed to be black canary to begin with it was foreshadowed. i'm assuming the show attempted a build up for her transition but it's kind of less believable due to how quick it happened. she had like 1 boxing session now she can kick everyones ass rofl... This episode I think did well showing how green she is. Esp when she fall over from the jump onto the top of the van, had me cracking up. | ||
saocyn
United States937 Posts
On January 29 2015 22:31 Oldfool wrote: This episode I think did well showing how green she is. Esp when she fall over from the jump onto the top of the van, had me cracking up. yeah i'm pretty sure i missed that. i was too invested in the whole arrow vs ras plot to notice such a small thing. i'm not sure if it's only me but it doesn't seem like she fits well in her canary suit...she looks ridiculous to me or maybe it's the fact that i'm so used to laurel being a cute emotional wreck i don't know. | ||
Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On January 29 2015 21:55 0x64 wrote: I think she did'nt actually understood how it happened herself. Sword through sternum, a far enough drop that the body couldn't been seen before landing (foggy, in fairness to common sense), landing at what was likely terminal velocity on rocks. "Don't thank me, The cold and the snow. You should be dead" Saved by snow and penicillin and stitches. Yes its a TV show, yes its a super hero show, I know it doesn't have to make sense but come on! The Lazarus Pits would have made a zillion times more sense then snowflakes that heal! What a pathetic way to keep Oliver alive. I didn't think it possible but Laurel some how managed to make me hate her more. The two pretend to be the dead girl for your dad stunts are wrong on so many levels...How could she possibly think that was a good idea and WHEN her dad finds out Sara is dead explaining that is gonna be a bitch | ||
saocyn
United States937 Posts
On January 29 2015 23:32 Orcasgt24 wrote: Sword through sternum, a far enough drop that the body couldn't been seen before landing (foggy, in fairness to common sense), landing at what was likely terminal velocity on rocks. "Don't thank me, The cold and the snow. You should be dead" Saved by snow and penicillin and stitches. Yes its a TV show, yes its a super hero show, I know it doesn't have to make sense but come on! The Lazarus Pits would have made a zillion times more sense then snowflakes that heal! What a pathetic way to keep Oliver alive. I didn't think it possible but Laurel some how managed to make me hate her more. The two pretend to be the dead girl for your dad stunts are wrong on so many levels...How could she possibly think that was a good idea and WHEN her dad finds out Sara is dead explaining that is gonna be a bitch i have the complete opposite impression. i think it's very rare for tv shows that are dominated by a strong male protagonist to really show a strong yet powerful feminine character as well. laurel has to deal with really shitty situations while being in the dark and attempting to be involved in the loop despite being vulnerable and weak. (weak not because she's a woman, weak because she wasn't trained to be fighter / vs people who are trained) most women who are "hardened" through bad experiences generally become a bitch, and there's a big difference between a bitch and a person who wants to become strong. i mean here's what laurel's been through since the start of the show 1. she was cheated on 2. the man who cheated on her supposedly died with her sister at the same time (it tells her she's less physically attractive) 3. oliver even after coming back with sara both had an intimate relationship infront of her 4. she had to beat being an alcoholic along with a drug addiction 5. her father goes through multiple life surgeries 6. she's in a world where no one can tell her anything for the sake of her safety (doesn't get to know why or what is happening around her, can't protect herself) no matter what she does she loses, so i think this transition is the only probable outcome. either that or she dies. and i'm slightly bias when she has puppey dog eyes i think she's gorgeous ROFL. | ||
Musicus
Germany23567 Posts
On January 30 2015 00:23 saocyn wrote: i have the complete opposite impression. i think it's very rare for tv shows that are dominated by a strong male protagonist to really show a strong yet powerful feminine character as well. laurel has to deal with really shitty situations while being in the dark and attempting to be involved in the loop despite being vulnerable and weak. (weak not because she's a woman, weak because she wasn't trained to be fighter / vs people who are trained) most women who are "hardened" through bad experiences generally become a bitch, and there's a big difference between a bitch and a person who wants to become strong. i mean here's what laurel's been through since the start of the show 1. she was cheated on 2. the man who cheated on her supposedly died with her sister at the same time (it tells her she's less physically attractive) 3. oliver even after coming back with sara both had an intimate relationship infront of her 4. she had to beat being an alcoholic along with a drug addiction 5. her father goes through multiple life surgeries 6. she's in a world where no one can tell her anything for the sake of her safety (doesn't get to know why or what is happening around her, can't protect herself) no matter what she does she loses, so i think this transition is the only probable outcome. either that or she dies. and i'm slightly bias when she has puppey dog eyes i think she's gorgeous ROFL. Sarah went through way worse stuff and was still cool, laurel is just stupid and annoying, literally every decision she makes infuriates me. Lying to her dad about Sarah's death is just wrong and had she let Diggel go with Roy instead of going herself that one guy might not've died. Arrow shows a lot of strong female characters btw like Sarah, Shado, Nyssa, Maseo's wife, Lyla and now Thea. Only Laurel is completey fucked up imo. Can't wait until Oliver is back, I've had enough of Laurel, I'm enjoying Flash so much more right now. | ||
saocyn
United States937 Posts
On January 30 2015 01:30 Musicus wrote: Sarah went through way worse stuff and was still cool, laurel is just stupid and annoying, literally every decision she makes infuriates me. Lying to her dad about Sarah's death is just wrong and had she let Diggel go with Roy instead of going herself that one guy might not've died. Arrow shows a lot of strong female characters btw like Sarah, Shado, Nyssa, Maseo's wife, Lyla and now Thea. Only Laurel is completey fucked up imo. Can't wait until Oliver is back, I've had enough of Laurel, I'm enjoying Flash so much more right now. i still can't agree. sarah esentially stabbed her sister in the back and went off in a boat that was meant to be sunk. her living through that was mere luck and everything else after was due to the fact she chose to hook up with her sister's lover. laurel had no control over the things that happened to her, i can't recall any of the misfortune she suffered was due to her negligence. whereas everyone else's consequences was due to bad decisions. and for clarity purposes, i'm not saying laurel is the only powerful female character, in my eyes she's the best example out of all of them. she was pushed down for situations which weren't her fault, and not only did she not give up, she empowered herself to overcome them. most of the other female roles you named are more corrupted than they are about empowerment for justice. most of the other females HAD connections or influences to people who are willing to train them in the art of assassination. shadow was taught by her father since she was young, nyssa obviously was raised into the leagues, lyla was trained by the government her husband was ex military or marine w/e. thea has her father. maseo's wife isn't a fighter or not that i've seen. almost all of them had a decade to master their craft or was forced into it. its a big difference when you lack a decade of experience and don't have connections to learn from. it's comparable to attempting to compete in UFC with only a boxing coach | ||
Velr
Switzerland10417 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
On January 30 2015 04:45 Capped wrote: I miss the island. asia is the new island | ||
Holy_AT
Austria978 Posts
I just think that her role, or lets say her new role is unfitting to the actress. If you look at the original canary, she was shorter, she had muscles, she had meat on her bones and that made her believable. She looked tough and one could believe she was a fighter, but Laurel just looks like a girly model with those long legs and arms that are super thin. She just looks like the wind could carry her away. Maybe if swords were her signature weapon like Thea, one could believe she may have an impact but making her a melee bruiser who fights with a blunt stick is just not right for the actress. To make us actually believe shes a fighter she would have to gain a few pounds and grow some muscles otherwise it looks just stupid or unbelievable. | ||
dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
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Garbels
Austria653 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Pibacc
Canada545 Posts
On January 30 2015 01:30 Musicus wrote: Sarah went through way worse stuff and was still cool, laurel is just stupid and annoying, literally every decision she makes infuriates me. Lying to her dad about Sarah's death is just wrong and had she let Diggel go with Roy instead of going herself that one guy might not've died. Arrow shows a lot of strong female characters btw like Sarah, Shado, Nyssa, Maseo's wife, Lyla and now Thea. Only Laurel is completey fucked up imo. Can't wait until Oliver is back, I've had enough of Laurel, I'm enjoying Flash so much more right now. Laurel can't tell her dad that Sarah's dead because she thinks it would kill him. The guy had a heart attack and has been in poor health. He also said if Sarah were to die he would also die. Also, the first time they thought Sarah died Quentin became an alcoholic and destroyed his marriage. We the audience know that Quentin will most likely find out Sarah is actually dead, but Laurel believes the best thing to do considering the situation is to let her dad believe Sarah is alive instead of taking the risk of telling Quentin and having him drop dead from another heart attack. | ||
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