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On July 04 2016 08:34 The_Red_Viper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2016 07:39 clickrush wrote:On July 04 2016 07:14 The_Red_Viper wrote: If there was ever a game where a "elo hell" was potentially possible, it surely is this one. Worst ranked experience i ever had in any game ever. (that alone should say a lot) People aren't using the voice chat, people aren't capable of building decent team comps, people aren't even capable to push as one team. As i said before i don't think you can carry in this game unless you are miles and miles better than the rest of the players. Frustrating as fuck. Here is some really evil advice for you: One thing I gave up with is trying to bring teamplay into a team like that. Lurking/spawn camping as reaper is for example a great thing you can do even if it is not the most efficient/fastest thing if you had a cohesive team that looks out for eachother. Another thing you can do is just take a good highground spot with soldier and just camp the shit out of your opponent regardless if you are defending or attacking. And by camping I mean literally just look out for yourself. For example I'am not changing my position when a Winston is jumping on someone when that position is dangerous. I rather just stay there and kill the follow ups. Any hero with self sustain can be played like this, bonus points if you also have mobility. Just put yourself into derpy spots and survive and take only fights you can win with a very high percentage. Don't try to create space and expose yourself. Creating space for an underperforming team is a waste of time and it is the most frustrating thing if you do that and nobody has your back. It is not flashy way, not teamoriented and you have to be patient and sometimes lucky but it certainly works. I will be quite honest, that doesn't sound like a lot of fun. I am also not sure if that really works that well either, you just have to die once because they group up to kill you and then it's all over. My biggest problem isn't that we lose because we have a bad game, my problem is that nobody in this game even tries. No communication, no reasonable team comps, no regrouping for big pushes (with ultis) I cannot understand this behaviour and i don't wanna tolerate it either. It's no rocket science. If this doesn't get better i probably simply won't play it anymore because in the end it's a big waste of time and csgo is still there for my fps fix.
Hmm in most of my games people group and time ulties and in like a third of them people communicate. I think the communication aspect will grow in competitive mode. My advice was really for those stupid games where you get unlucky and get 5 players who get bored after having to wait more than 3s and cannot play off eachother. I mean in CS:GO you have those games as well.
Since you are a CS player: I really just mean lurking. Get behind the opponent and just survive and take them when they are unaware. The difference is just that you can do that very safely with good healpack rotations and you can bait them into chasing you around a corner where there is a healpack. More often than not people will tunnelvision on you and get caught.
Ofcourse you need an escape plan when they try to group up on you. But don't forget you play away from the objective and while your teammates are running into there 1 by 1 they apply pressure for you and create space so you can safely maneuver around and pick off targets 1 by 1.
This works well if you are better than most at your current rating, but I don't think it would work well vs similarly skilled opponents since they will take you out 1v1 in 50% of the cases as soon as they get aware of what you are doing. Before that you can still pick off a few targets and this usually leads to some kind of advantage.
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Why the -fuck- would anyone leave a competitive game after losing on defense... =_=
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If you play Winston you should never use your ult if an allied Zarya or Mei is ulting. Should be common sense but apparently it's not.
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On July 05 2016 00:03 overt wrote: If you play Winston you should never use your ult if an allied Zarya or Mei is ulting. Should be common sense but apparently it's not. I feel like almost nobody in this game uses common sense tbh. It also should be common sense to use the microphone if you have one (which most people surely do, no?) but apparently communication is overvalued in a game with a fast pace. If you don't see it with your own eyes you are a noob.
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I'm on a 10+ games loss streak atm. Last game on Kings Row Attack the enemy team camped our spawn and all of my mates kept running into them. Not a single one even knew you can heal inside the spawn. -.- I just stood inside the heal zone kept spamming grenades and watched them rack up death after death after death like programmed idiots. I hate this game so much.
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On July 05 2016 00:03 overt wrote: If you play Winston you should never use your ult if an allied Zarya or Mei is ulting. Should be common sense but apparently it's not. There is no reason to ever ulti as winston unless your dying or doing some fringe strat like needing to proc overtime. Ulti Winston is just worse than vanilla if your opponents don't suck.
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Yeah fuck this game, it simply is a waste of time to play this solo queue. Never again.
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On July 05 2016 01:42 The_Red_Viper wrote: Yeah fuck this game, it simply is a waste of time to play this solo queue. Never again. Nobody's stopping you. It's not really the kind of QQ that fits the thread anyway, it's more for venting the negative experience out of the positive. If you're not having any positive experience, you're just being a stone-cold bummer.
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On July 05 2016 01:42 The_Red_Viper wrote: Yeah fuck this game, it simply is a waste of time to play this solo queue. Never again.
May I ask what your rating is and what your most played/best heroes are?
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it doesn't matter anymore, i stopped playing this altogether, not enough time in the day to waste it like that.
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So is anyone else tired of seeing Pharah on both teams every single game?
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Just got out of a pub game that had it all. Attacking on Volskaya, we didn't even get close to taking point A. Noteworthy aspects of that game include 1) a Lucio who ran off all by himself to take the point, who then ran off in the other direction and did nothing to either support us or contest the objective, 2) a Winston who would charge in and die because nobody was backing him up, and certainly not our Lucio(I was tank #2 as Reinhardt, and I was experiencing similar issues, minus the charging in solo bit), 3) a Mei who did absolutely nothing, who switched to Junkrat at the end and continued to do nothing, and 4) a Widowmaker who did even less than that. I know this because I had the gold medal for kills at 2. And for bonus points, the enemy Pharah(because every team needs one!) used her ult just to kill me, because I was the only one who could make my way to the point.
Top that.
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Was playing a 2 point assault map. It went 4-2 and we held a full defense, next round the ennemy team all left the game and we got literally nothign for winning...
How did this even got past testing ? Why does people leaving in the ennemy team punish my team for playing great ?!
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To be fair I'd have quit long ago if I didn't have a few friends to play with. Been lucky enough to add 2 good players ingame, one on TL and I know 2 guys. Love to run a 3-4 stack, but if I was forced to solo queue into competitive I'd kill myself.
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Especially in competitive mode, there's always someone who gets on their high horse and yells at the team for sucking whenever we're losing. How about instead of typing away insults, suggest possible comp changes or give tips to anyone who is struggling? Or ya know, do something constructive and ACTUALLY get on the payload?
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Especially in competitive mode, there's always someone who gets on their high horse and yells at the team for sucking whenever we're losing. How about instead of typing away insults, suggest possible comp changes or give tips to anyone who is struggling? Or ya know, do something constructive and ACTUALLY get on the payload? Because they cant actually have any intention of making it better. Superiority complex, stupidity and anger issues mean that they get more out of complaining that others are worse than actually winning. It is usually the worst players on the team who do this. Most of them seem to have a thing for genji, hanzo, widowmaker and reaper for some reason as well. "Get on the payload" -Widowmaker with no kills "Group up" -The Genji you have only seen rolling past in the kill feed, never killing anything Sure, its sound advice, but the people who say things like that are usually not doing it at all themselves.
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On July 05 2016 19:04 h41fgod wrote:Show nested quote +Especially in competitive mode, there's always someone who gets on their high horse and yells at the team for sucking whenever we're losing. How about instead of typing away insults, suggest possible comp changes or give tips to anyone who is struggling? Or ya know, do something constructive and ACTUALLY get on the payload? Because they cant actually have any intention of making it better. Superiority complex, stupidity and anger issues mean that they get more out of complaining that others are worse than actually winning. It is usually the worst players on the team who do this. Most of them seem to have a thing for genji, hanzo, widowmaker and reaper for some reason as well. "Get on the payload" -Widowmaker with no kills "Group up" -The Genji you have only seen rolling past in the kill feed, never killing anything Sure, its sound advice, but the people who say things like that are usually not doing it at all themselves.
I tanked my rating on the weekend with a 6 stack and I'am telling people to do things fairly regularly now haha.
In about 1/3 of my games we have trouble because of an underpfermoning dps player. But I start with things like "Can we please have X instead of Y" "I cannot switch I'am doing very well" "please can you take Y now you see it isn't working". And after a while it turns into condescending things like this: "Common Widow I can't see you in the killfeed" "Don't you want to try to win?". At this point it I'am already frustrated because I know that we could win if that Genji/Widow w/e dps who is underperforming would take up a supportive role we would win because I and mb some other guy would be able to carry if we just had a bit more space and uptime. I also tried it the other way and babysat people or take something to create space but it almost always results in a stomp because suddenly nobody on the opposing side dies.
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On July 05 2016 19:04 h41fgod wrote:Show nested quote +Especially in competitive mode, there's always someone who gets on their high horse and yells at the team for sucking whenever we're losing. How about instead of typing away insults, suggest possible comp changes or give tips to anyone who is struggling? Or ya know, do something constructive and ACTUALLY get on the payload? Because they cant actually have any intention of making it better. Superiority complex, stupidity and anger issues mean that they get more out of complaining that others are worse than actually winning. It is usually the worst players on the team who do this. Most of them seem to have a thing for genji, hanzo, widowmaker and reaper for some reason as well. "Get on the payload" -Widowmaker with no kills "Group up" -The Genji you have only seen rolling past in the kill feed, never killing anything Sure, its sound advice, but the people who say things like that are usually not doing it at all themselves. I've found myself being quite annoyed at my teammates, albeit mostly in quick play, because they wouldn't do objectives while I was widow or tracer and my purpose is more to make space for my teammates to do the objectives. So I would tell them "do the objective guys" and they'd tell me to fuck off and that I wasn't doing the objective myself.
Also I hope people understand that playing widow is really fucking hard unless you're like a 16 year old with eagle eyes and small little surgeon hands. Sometimes it just doesn't work out... I was trying to play widow on attack on Hollywood which I usually have a lot of success with, one time it didn't work for me and I wasn't getting work done and someone called it out after like 1 minute. So yeah people suck but also chill out...
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I keep seeing the better players complaining on the team and 80% they are the tier whores.
Playing Widow is like rolling initiative in DnD sometimes you roll high and it works out and sometimes you roll low and you do fuck all and should switch.
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On July 05 2016 23:08 Eppa! wrote: I keep seeing the better players complaining on the team and 80% they are the tier whores.
Playing Widow is like rolling initiative in DnD sometimes you roll high and it works out and sometimes you roll low and you do fuck all and should switch. Takes a second to figure out that it won't work though, people shouldn't switch that the slightest bit of resistance. I play some classes that people feel aren't the best so sometimes I get told to switch to something else even when I'm doing good.
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