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On January 06 2018 13:20 Zzzapper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2018 13:15 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On January 06 2018 13:13 Zzzapper wrote:On January 06 2018 13:10 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On January 06 2018 13:07 Zzzapper wrote: Rotational symmetry needs to die, half of the complaints people have about 4p maps are really about that and would be fixed with mirror symmetry Frost has mirrored symmetry and yet has a bunch of problems... Sure, it doesn't fix everything but the two main complaints I see about 4 player maps in general are positional imbalance and not knowing where you oppopnent starts. The first one is gone with mirror symmetry You still end up with games decided by getting favourable or unfavourable spawns (since one player wants diagonal, and the other doesn't). That's 4 player maps in general though, and it happens 1/3 games on mirror maps instead of every game. I'm not saying 4p maps are neccessarily great, just that mirror>rotational symmetry
For a 4 player mirrored map to work you have to design both horizontal and vertical to work separately which is a lot more awkward and likely to go wrong than sticking to rotational stuff imo. Not that I'm particularly a fan of either.
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Inno is a brute. I am really hyped for his tvz.
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Losing one 150/150 unit shouldn't mean you automatically lose the game 4-5 minutes later after taking no other real damage.
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On January 06 2018 13:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2018 13:14 DieuCure wrote:On January 06 2018 13:13 SetGuitarsToKill wrote: I want that GSL Hoodie, where can I buy one? You just have to qualify to code s I have to do it with no team too. I can't even go full NoRegret because he's signed :/
Then go full Byun, it's even better
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On January 06 2018 13:25 Boggyb wrote: Losing one 150/150 unit shouldn't mean you automatically lose the game 4-5 minutes later after taking no other real damage. Artosis also said last patch was great cause you could make widow mines faster.
They have to say a lot of things during a cast...
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4 player map...
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On January 06 2018 13:25 Boggyb wrote: Losing one 150/150 unit shouldn't mean you automatically lose the game 4-5 minutes later after taking no other real damage.
While losing the oracle certainly isn't good I wouldn't ascribe the loss to that. It's more INno just being generally better than Creator.
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I think I would prefer Darkness Sanctuary in the WCS ladder instead of Battle of the Boardwalk. Both are really great looking maps but I would like DS because 4 player maps on the 1v1 ladder are something that I miss from the old days when I played all of the time and also, selfishly, my pleb mind can not figure out PvAnything on BotB.
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On January 06 2018 13:25 Boggyb wrote: Losing one 150/150 unit shouldn't mean you automatically lose the game 4-5 minutes later after taking no other real damage. maybe the fact it was Creator playing vs INnoVation has more to do with that loss. herO/Stats can totally win after losing Oracles.
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On January 06 2018 13:28 breaker1328 wrote: I think I would prefer Darkness Sanctuary in the WCS ladder instead of Battle of the Boardwalk. Both are really great looking maps but I would like DS because 4 player maps on the 1v1 ladder are something that I miss from the old days when I played all of the time and also, selfishly, my pleb mind can not figure out PvAnything on BotB. I've never played a game on Battle of the Boardwalk tbh
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On January 06 2018 13:28 breaker1328 wrote: I think I would prefer Darkness Sanctuary in the WCS ladder instead of Battle of the Boardwalk. Both are really great looking maps but I would like DS because 4 player maps on the 1v1 ladder are something that I miss from the old days when I played all of the time and also, selfishly, my pleb mind can not figure out PvAnything on BotB.
Grab the gold no matter what, and hope to live long enough to outmoney them.
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Those WM hits were huge, won him the game
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Poor Creator. If only the oracles had energy for the last fight
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Creator must be made of literally anything because he got EATEN by the goat
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INnoVation is a much better player than Creator, but I saw nothing from either of those games that justified how lopsided either of those games was.
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