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On March 31 2018 02:59 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2018 00:13 Dark_Chill wrote: Why does Freeza care about the Freeza army? He could probably take out the army on his own, as could most of the Z fighters. Now, what would have been really cool is Freeza heading off to the dog-fox universe somehow to take over the position of Sindra by force. The same reason the US has an army despite having nukes. Occupation is about standing in corners, not glassing places Not to mention Frieza probably enjoys the dick sucking every now and then
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On March 31 2018 00:13 Dark_Chill wrote: Why does Freeza care about the Freeza army? He could probably take out the army on his own, as could most of the Z fighters. Now, what would have been really cool is Freeza heading off to the dog-fox universe somehow to take over the position of Sindra by force. Would it though? Universe 9 is a piece of shit. There's like nothing worth ruling there. You can even see after they're revived, everything around them is just in flames.
Now call me crazy, but I don't see Freeza rebuilding an entire universe.
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On March 31 2018 03:28 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2018 00:13 Dark_Chill wrote: Why does Freeza care about the Freeza army? He could probably take out the army on his own, as could most of the Z fighters. Now, what would have been really cool is Freeza heading off to the dog-fox universe somehow to take over the position of Sindra by force. Would it though? Universe 9 is a piece of shit. There's like nothing worth ruling there. You can even see after they're revived, everything around them is just in flames. Now call me crazy, but I don't see Freeza rebuilding an entire universe.
It's actually kind of impressive that U9 seems to always be right in the middle of a world-ending crisis event, it look like the Roland Emmerich of Dragon Ball univers.
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Frieza's eyes are bigger than his stomach. If anything, he'd have his eyes on u11 or u7.
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On March 31 2018 01:40 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2018 01:32 BigFan wrote:On March 31 2018 01:28 Mohdoo wrote:On March 31 2018 01:22 BigFan wrote: What 6 universes? Are these the ones that were erased before this tournament started? Yeah, the details are clearly intentionally vague, but all we know is that something inspired Zenoh to eliminate 6 universes a long time ago. There were "originally" 18. For all we know, they'll decide there are 50, some of which are ascended universes. This shit can go on forever. But what we know right now is that there were 18, 6 got erased prior to anything we've seen. http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/MultiverseThe Universe Survival Saga takes place in the World of Void for the Tournament of Power between eight of the twelve universes. All of the 12 universes are ruled by Zeno. Formerly, there used to be 18 universes in total, but Zeno erased 6 of them when he was angry and Universes 9, 10, 2, 6, 4, 3, and 11 were erased during the Tournament of Power, but were brought back into existence thanks to Android 17's wish using the Super Dragon Balls. yes but was there a mention that they came back? I don't recall the anime touching on this point. Android 17 says "Restore all erased universes". Dragon Ball wishes have always been granted as stated. The other 6 were erased less recently, but nothing about 17's wording would omit them. I refuse to believe they would talk about previous 6 universes, then have Android 17 have a very broad wish, all for nothing. To me, it is virtually guaranteed we will see the other 6 universes at some point. Just a matter of when.
I think you are overestimating the DBS writers. Plus they already have a ton of material with the other 8 universes
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On March 31 2018 03:28 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2018 00:13 Dark_Chill wrote: Why does Freeza care about the Freeza army? He could probably take out the army on his own, as could most of the Z fighters. Now, what would have been really cool is Freeza heading off to the dog-fox universe somehow to take over the position of Sindra by force. Would it though? Universe 9 is a piece of shit. There's like nothing worth ruling there. You can even see after they're revived, everything around them is just in flames. Now call me crazy, but I don't see Freeza rebuilding an entire universe. Yeah lol. Every time we see stuff in U9 I'm just like... you don't have someplace better you can stay while you do shit? Is everything on fire? Like, everything in the universe? How do you still have a job?
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On March 31 2018 03:45 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2018 03:28 Elentos wrote:On March 31 2018 00:13 Dark_Chill wrote: Why does Freeza care about the Freeza army? He could probably take out the army on his own, as could most of the Z fighters. Now, what would have been really cool is Freeza heading off to the dog-fox universe somehow to take over the position of Sindra by force. Would it though? Universe 9 is a piece of shit. There's like nothing worth ruling there. You can even see after they're revived, everything around them is just in flames. Now call me crazy, but I don't see Freeza rebuilding an entire universe. Yeah lol. Every time we see stuff in U9 I'm just like... you don't have someplace better you can stay while you do shit? Is everything on fire? Like, everything in the universe? How do you still have a job? I would have loved it if 17 was like "except universe 9. That place is a complete disaster"
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Maybe U9 needs better gods who can actually clean shit up. Sometimes you just need some heavy-handed asshole with godly powers, that you may bring order to an aimless universe.
Yes, they've talked before about how utterly in shambles that universe is. They don't seem to get the whole "order" thing and maybe someone with overwhelming power needs to take over.
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I'm more impressed in how they can constantly set things on fire considering how weak they are.
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Theory: In the next arc, the erased universes will go on a journey to get the super dragon balls to take revenge after their erasure. U6/U7 will each have concurrent stories of them defending against the universes.
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My theory is the movie Saiyan is from a previously erased universe. Opens up that story
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On April 02 2018 04:17 Cricketer12 wrote: My theory is the movie Saiyan is from a previously erased universe. Opens up that story
This is what I wanted more from the multiple universes. We got a 2nd Frieza and somewhat got a 2nd Goku from the Zamusu arc. But there's so much more they could explore with. I want role switched Vegeta/Goku, I want a universe where Buu destroyed everything and was never killed/sealed, could be one where Goku is actually the God of Destruction etc.
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On April 02 2018 04:47 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2018 04:17 Cricketer12 wrote: My theory is the movie Saiyan is from a previously erased universe. Opens up that story This is what I wanted more from the multiple universes. We got a 2nd Frieza and somewhat got a 2nd Goku from the Zamusu arc. But there's so much more they could explore with. I want role switched Vegeta/Goku, I want a universe where Buu destroyed everything and was never killed/sealed, could be one where Goku is actually the God of Destruction etc. That would be split timelines though, not different universes. Which I guess could become a topic in the future again at some point.
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On April 02 2018 03:22 Mohdoo wrote: Theory: In the next arc, the erased universes will go on a journey to get the super dragon balls to take revenge after their erasure. U6/U7 will each have concurrent stories of them defending against the universes.
Why would the erased universes want revenge on U6? U6 wished everyone back. What might make a bit more sense would be for the gods of destruction (maybe of all universes, maybe just the ones who got erased) to try to bind together behind the angels' back to try to destroy/imprision Zeno. I doubt it, though.
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On April 02 2018 06:07 Sbrubbles wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2018 03:22 Mohdoo wrote: Theory: In the next arc, the erased universes will go on a journey to get the super dragon balls to take revenge after their erasure. U6/U7 will each have concurrent stories of them defending against the universes. Why would the erased universes want revenge on U6? U6 wished everyone back. What might make a bit more sense would be for the gods of destruction (maybe of all universes, maybe just the ones who got erased) to try to bind together behind the angels' back to try to destroy/imprision Zeno. I doubt it, though.
In the manga, was it not stated that Beerus was responsible for pissing off Zenoh and getting those 6 universes erased?
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On April 03 2018 00:12 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2018 06:07 Sbrubbles wrote:On April 02 2018 03:22 Mohdoo wrote: Theory: In the next arc, the erased universes will go on a journey to get the super dragon balls to take revenge after their erasure. U6/U7 will each have concurrent stories of them defending against the universes. Why would the erased universes want revenge on U6? U6 wished everyone back. What might make a bit more sense would be for the gods of destruction (maybe of all universes, maybe just the ones who got erased) to try to bind together behind the angels' back to try to destroy/imprision Zeno. I doubt it, though. In the manga, was it not stated that Beerus was responsible for pissing off Zenoh and getting those 6 universes erased? It was a game of hide and seek and Beerus fell asleep somewhere. Not sure what happened after but there was a consequence to it. That's wht the GoD are mad at him.
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On April 03 2018 00:51 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2018 00:12 Mohdoo wrote:On April 02 2018 06:07 Sbrubbles wrote:On April 02 2018 03:22 Mohdoo wrote: Theory: In the next arc, the erased universes will go on a journey to get the super dragon balls to take revenge after their erasure. U6/U7 will each have concurrent stories of them defending against the universes. Why would the erased universes want revenge on U6? U6 wished everyone back. What might make a bit more sense would be for the gods of destruction (maybe of all universes, maybe just the ones who got erased) to try to bind together behind the angels' back to try to destroy/imprision Zeno. I doubt it, though. In the manga, was it not stated that Beerus was responsible for pissing off Zenoh and getting those 6 universes erased? It was a game of hide and seek and Beerus fell asleep somewhere. Not sure what happened after but there was a consequence to it. That's wht the GoD are mad at him.
So is the hide and go seek a distinct event from the erasure of U13-16?
If we don't know why U13-16 were originally erased, to me, that supports my theory that they return and are angry for some reason. I can't imagine a situation where 13-16 are resurrected, and they are some really cool guys who are just kind of weak and dumb. There must be something spicy about them.
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On April 03 2018 01:15 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2018 00:51 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 03 2018 00:12 Mohdoo wrote:On April 02 2018 06:07 Sbrubbles wrote:On April 02 2018 03:22 Mohdoo wrote: Theory: In the next arc, the erased universes will go on a journey to get the super dragon balls to take revenge after their erasure. U6/U7 will each have concurrent stories of them defending against the universes. Why would the erased universes want revenge on U6? U6 wished everyone back. What might make a bit more sense would be for the gods of destruction (maybe of all universes, maybe just the ones who got erased) to try to bind together behind the angels' back to try to destroy/imprision Zeno. I doubt it, though. In the manga, was it not stated that Beerus was responsible for pissing off Zenoh and getting those 6 universes erased? It was a game of hide and seek and Beerus fell asleep somewhere. Not sure what happened after but there was a consequence to it. That's wht the GoD are mad at him. So is the hide and go seek a distinct event from the erasure of U13-16? If we don't know why U13-16 were originally erased, to me, that supports my theory that they return and are angry for some reason. I can't imagine a situation where 13-16 are resurrected, and they are some really cool guys who are just kind of weak and dumb. There must be something spicy about them. It's 13-18. And it wasn't outright said that the hide and seek caused them to get erased. So there is a chance!
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On April 03 2018 01:36 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2018 01:15 Mohdoo wrote:On April 03 2018 00:51 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 03 2018 00:12 Mohdoo wrote:On April 02 2018 06:07 Sbrubbles wrote:On April 02 2018 03:22 Mohdoo wrote: Theory: In the next arc, the erased universes will go on a journey to get the super dragon balls to take revenge after their erasure. U6/U7 will each have concurrent stories of them defending against the universes. Why would the erased universes want revenge on U6? U6 wished everyone back. What might make a bit more sense would be for the gods of destruction (maybe of all universes, maybe just the ones who got erased) to try to bind together behind the angels' back to try to destroy/imprision Zeno. I doubt it, though. In the manga, was it not stated that Beerus was responsible for pissing off Zenoh and getting those 6 universes erased? It was a game of hide and seek and Beerus fell asleep somewhere. Not sure what happened after but there was a consequence to it. That's wht the GoD are mad at him. So is the hide and go seek a distinct event from the erasure of U13-16? If we don't know why U13-16 were originally erased, to me, that supports my theory that they return and are angry for some reason. I can't imagine a situation where 13-16 are resurrected, and they are some really cool guys who are just kind of weak and dumb. There must be something spicy about them. It's 13-18. And it wasn't outright said that the hide and seek caused them to get erased. So there is a chance!
Man, I keep saying 4 instead of 6 lol. The way I see it, if they are alluding to what happened, but not explicitly telling us what happened, we can assume we will be told what happened as it ends up pertaining to a future story.
Is it December 14 yet? T_T
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We've been told that the universes are pairs. With all the Saiyan talk here, are people assuming that the universes were originally in groups of 3, so there is another universe among 13-18 that have Saiyans? Or is the guess that there is another pair among universes 13-18 that have Saiyans?
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