NBA Offseason 2018 - Page 3
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cLutZ
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JimmiC
Canada22814 Posts
First point, if he only wants to go to LA and no where else, that means NY is out as well as Bos. If he just cares that it is a major center then LA New york and Bos would all be in play and possibly Chi and Hou. If he opens up his other options Bos is more appealing because winning is more fun then losing, you can also make a lot more money winning then losing. LA lakers have a long history of winning, they also have lots of cap space to pair Kawhii with someone else so I'm assuming that he thinks him, PG13 or LeBron, Ball, INgram and who ever else they end up with would be decent. NY is a great city, but it is not like it is THAT much better then Boston. There is a reason that the Red sox, Patriots, Celtics and Bruins all are often winners and players like to go there and often stay. | ||
cLutZ
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JimmiC
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cLutZ
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JimmiC
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Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7645 Posts
On June 17 2018 10:42 JimmiC wrote: I dunno what is more surprising that you are close friends with LeBron and just know "things". Or that you think Boston has the Monopoly on Racism. Ever seen the wing bowl in Philly? How about Rodney King in LA, how about everything everywhere. It's not just the racism, it's the general snootiness and insularity of the people. I know people who went to university around that area and his feedback is the exact same one they gave. Each city has its own local vibe and culture. Of all the big cities, that's the one place I keep hearing that there's something off putting for people moving there. You have to be born there to like it. One thing that nobody mentioned so far is that Kawhi grew up in Riverside. His Lakers preference could just be him wanting to play close to home. Some fans just forget the human side of players' decisions. | ||
zev318
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JimmiC
Canada22814 Posts
On June 19 2018 00:20 andrewlt wrote: It's not just the racism, it's the general snootiness and insularity of the people. I know people who went to university around that area and his feedback is the exact same one they gave. Each city has its own local vibe and culture. Of all the big cities, that's the one place I keep hearing that there's something off putting for people moving there. You have to be born there to like it. One thing that nobody mentioned so far is that Kawhi grew up in Riverside. His Lakers preference could just be him wanting to play close to home. Some fans just forget the human side of players' decisions. I'm not saying he loves Bos or hates it, either could be true. But saying he would sign in NY because it's NY but wouldn't in Bos because of racism with ZERO quotes or info is troubling. I agree if he wants to play near home and LA is all he will pick then he will end up in LA. People can pick where they work for a number of reasons. I prefer small city living so I moved out of big city and earn less money. That being said I have a 8 min commute and IMO have a better standard of living. When you are considered a top 5 player in the league, a year from UFA status you can basically pick where you end up now, and if not you surely can next year. | ||
andrewlt
United States7645 Posts
Even if the Spurs don't want to help the Lakers, I doubt many teams would be willing to offer that much for what would likely be a one year rental of a guy wanting to go home to play. Sure, the Lakers can just wait for next year but that's potentially one year of contention they will be missing out of. The other players who may join Kawhi in LA aren't that young anymore. | ||
Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22814 Posts
There are some exceptions but this tends to be with previous injuries. For example Amare Stoudemire contract was not insurable when the Knicks signed him. This was pretty big news and is probably why he ended up there, most other teams were unwilling to take the risk. | ||
zev318
Canada4304 Posts
On June 19 2018 02:43 Jerubaal wrote: I don't know what sort of insurance teams have for player injury, but this suddenly puts the last year in a much worse light. The Spurs could claim that he was sandbagging. and what would that claim get the spurs? | ||
Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
On June 19 2018 00:20 andrewlt wrote: it's the general snootiness and insularity of the people. I know people who went to university around that area and his feedback is the exact same one they gave. Each city has its own local vibe and culture. Of all the big cities, that's the one place I keep hearing that there's something off putting for people moving there. You have to be born there to like it. MIT, Harvard, Yale, They view their region as the "intellectual capital" of the USA. There is some truth to that. Mass. has short man's syndrome from being right beside New York state. Smaller state, smaller population, no where near the international recognition New York city and state have. Their snootiness, insularity and being elite in a few narrow fields is how they hold on to their identity. South east New Yorkers are flat out fuck you in your face 100% direct. They are easier to deal with. You hit a crass, loud, rude New Yorker with a solid, logical, argument that makes sense and they'll listen. They are brutal and ruthless, but logical. I can deal with that. Boston//Mass. has a bit of that british "stiff upper lip" thing going on. The British thing of 10,000 unwritten rules and if you break one of them you are excommunicated from the informal group without notice. That's the Boston thing going on. Add it all up and New Englanders in general and Bostonians in particular are very tough to deal with. Even New England's Pro Wrestling company is super snobby. WWF owner Vince Mcmahon forced southern wrestlers to take speaking lessons in order to converse in "The King's English". If a wrestler refused to take speaking lessons Vince would assign a "manager" to the guy and would not let him speak on camera. Mcmahon believed speaking in a proper english manner made his product feel more legit. Upstate New Yorkers are the best! very practical, pragmatic, and down to earth. GO BILLS GO! | ||
Jerubaal
United States7675 Posts
i think you've mixed up your demos. You're describing the old brahmins and perhaps the middle class of Boston and New England. These are the descendants of the Puritans who abandoned any moral conviction but maintained their feelings of superiority to become the modern American Left. These are the Kevin Arnovitzes and Seth MacFarlanes of the world who may be intelligent, subtle, cultured and well traveled, but, at the end of the day, don't have much love for anyone who isn't just like them. These are not the people heckling at the parquet. Those people have much more in common with the Irish working class that grew up under those Brahmins. | ||
giftdgecko
United States2126 Posts
On June 19 2018 15:07 JimmyJRaynor wrote: MIT, Harvard, Yale, They view their region as the "intellectual capital" of the USA. There is some truth to that. Mass. has short man's syndrome from being right beside New York state. Smaller state, smaller population, no where near the international recognition New York city and state have. Their snootiness, insularity and being elite in a few narrow fields is how they hold on to their identity. South east New Yorkers are flat out fuck you in your face 100% direct. They are easier to deal with. You hit a crass, loud, rude New Yorker with a solid, logical, argument that makes sense and they'll listen. They are brutal and ruthless, but logical. I can deal with that. Boston//Mass. has a bit of that british "stiff upper lip" thing going on. The British thing of 10,000 unwritten rules and if you break one of them you are excommunicated from the informal group without notice. That's the Boston thing going on. Add it all up and New Englanders in general and Bostonians in particular are very tough to deal with. Even New England's Pro Wrestling company is super snobby. WWF owner Vince Mcmahon forced southern wrestlers to take speaking lessons in order to converse in "The King's English". If a wrestler refused to take speaking lessons Vince would assign a "manager" to the guy and would not let him speak on camera. Mcmahon believed speaking in a proper english manner made his product feel more legit. Upstate New Yorkers are the best! very practical, pragmatic, and down to earth. GO BILLS GO! For someone who doesn't live in NY or New England you sure "know" a lot about it. TIL everyone in South East NY is obnoxious but reasonable. | ||
JimmyJRaynor
Canada15564 Posts
however, when i say "upstate new yorkers are the best and GO BILLS GO!" clearly you are getting my subjective canadian perspective on the north eastern usa and not some kind of scientific study. I'd always been curious about that Team USA 2004 Bronze medal team, but too lazy to look into it. Larry Brown coached that team. and, well, Larry Brown is very bad. rummaging around reddit today i found these quotes + Show Spoiler + Richard Jefferson said, "I remember in the qualifier for the Olympics, he told Jason Kidd, ‘Hey Jason, I know you're really good at the fast break, but I want you to stop at the free-throw line and throw a bounce pass to one of the wings.’ And you're sitting here talking to the second all-time leading assist guy and one of the most dominant point guards of all time. Truth be told, that's probably why nine guys decided that they didn't want to go do the Olympics." Stephon Marbury said to Chris Sheridan, "You know, Coach Brown isn't letting us play. He's trying to make us play the 'right way.' He's not letting us play. We just need to play." On June 20 2018 03:29 Jerubaal wrote: The problem with attributing the culture to MIT, Harvard and Yale is that those institutions attract a lot of people from all over the country. They are hardly community colleges. That seems to be the case with a lot of New Yorkers as well, though not necessarily the ones heckling at MSG during the draft. i think you've mixed up your demos. You're describing the old brahmins and perhaps the middle class of Boston and New England. These are the descendants of the Puritans who abandoned any moral conviction but maintained their feelings of superiority to become the modern American Left. These are the Kevin Arnovitzes and Seth MacFarlanes of the world who may be intelligent, subtle, cultured and well traveled, but, at the end of the day, don't have much love for anyone who isn't just like them. These are not the people heckling at the parquet. Those people have much more in common with the Irish working class that grew up under those Brahmins. thanks for the insights. i'm more attributing the snob culture with how new englanders view themselves. 1 of the many things they point to is their world class learning institutions. they are not claiming they all went to those schools but that the world goes to their region for the best intellectual experience on earth. a big impact on my high opinion of western new yorkers and upstate new yorkers could also be that they don't treat canadians likes aliens from another planet. | ||
JimmiC
Canada22814 Posts
Also, Gay declined his option with the spurs and Crawford with the twolves. | ||
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