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Shellshock
United States97248 Posts
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Lorning
Belgica34430 Posts
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HolydaKing
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sharkie
Austria18001 Posts
All they do is what we hate about the game | ||
Shellshock
United States97248 Posts
On June 21 2018 05:20 Lorning wrote: Iran deserved a point They already got 2 lucky points in their last game. I’d say they’ve still come out ahead overall | ||
Greg_J
China4408 Posts
On June 21 2018 05:29 sharkie wrote: Cheering for Iran is cheering against football All they do is what we hate about the game You mean Portugal. Cheering for Portugal is cheering against football. What Ronaldo does is what we hate about the game. I fixed your statement. You are welcome. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
On June 21 2018 05:29 sharkie wrote: Cheering for Iran is cheering against football All they do is what we hate about the game lol what, stop being silly. These countries are in it to win it. If anything, it's outright stupid for them to play an all out offensive game against a team like Spain considering that Spain will have a much easier time scoring goals. It's true that Spain still got a goal in but Iran almost equalized it several times and was really close with that goal that was offside too. Might be a bit different with Portugal considering they would need the win there to advance and a draw won't cut it, we'll see. If anything, much like Greg said, it's players that dive to try and get a penalty that should be hated because that's not what football is about. | ||
sharkie
Austria18001 Posts
You guys should drink less and watch more of the game before believing Iran is a football team | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
On June 21 2018 13:34 sharkie wrote: I am not silly. Iran's gameplan from the start against ANY team (so don't start on being underdog or whatever else excuses you might find) is to foul, foul and keep fouling the opposition to stop up play. And on the other hand they also dive and act like victims each time another player comes near them. You guys should drink less and watch more of the game before believing Iran is a football team I don't drink so your argument is void. Nope, you're being extremely silly if you can't understand that they were playing defensive to try to keep things at nil and trying to slow the pace down, plus try and hope to make something from a counter. It's a similar strategy to what they did in the last WC against teams that they believe are stronger. Right, because a lot of other players don't dive, commit fouls or pull other crap off and this is limited to just Iran. Your bias is showing. You'll have to come up with much better arguments if you want to try and convince me or anyone else who shares my thoughts. | ||
Deleted User 26513
2376 Posts
On June 21 2018 10:43 Greg_J wrote: You mean Portugal. Cheering for Portugal is cheering against football. What Ronaldo does is what we hate about the game. I fixed your statement. You are welcome. Hahaha, good one ! | ||
Acrofales
Spain17186 Posts
On June 21 2018 10:43 Greg_J wrote: I went down the pub assuming if I drunk enough I could put up with Ronaldo's diving and try and enjoy a game. Nope. No amount of alcohol can make his performances look acceptable. He just cheats at every given opportunity. He’s so talented, why can’t he just not be an asshole for 5 mins? Like seriously he doesn't even need to do it. You mean Portugal. Cheering for Portugal is cheering against football. What Ronaldo does is what we hate about the game. I fixed your statement. You are welcome. Problem is that what Ronaldo does is also why we love the game. Pepe, however is one of the shittiest players on earth. And I also have some special hatred for Quaresme. Ronaldo's antics are at least offset by sparks of pure brilliance. Oh, and if diving is the real issue here, Neymar is so bad that Brazil is the number one meme generator for jokes about his shitty overacting. Iran plays some shitty football, but we're going to have to accept that parking the bus is a legitimate tactic. Greece won a European championship with it, and Chelsea the CL. Iran does it with less flair than most, but they play cohesively as a team, which is more than you can say for most Asian teams. | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 21 2018 17:04 Acrofales wrote: Problem is that what Ronaldo does is also why we love the game. Pepe, however is one of the shittiest players on earth. And I also have some special hatred for Quaresme. Ronaldo's antics are at least offset by sparks of pure brilliance. Oh, and if diving is the real issue here, Neymar is so bad that Brazil is the number one meme generator for jokes about his shitty overacting. Iran plays some shitty football, but we're going to have to accept that parking the bus is a legitimate tactic. Greece won a European championship with it, and Chelsea the CL. Iran does it with less flair than most, but they play cohesively as a team, which is more than you can say for most Asian teams. Yeah I dont see what the problem is if an Iran plays that way. Not one of these lads that are hating on them could name a player on their roster or what team they played for before the start of this WC. And then talking shit like they are expected to come in go toe to toe with teams better than them. I dont like it either, but I am not going to hate on them for doing it. Teams that have talent or the ability to gain/access talent and do it should ofcourse be vilified and hated on. No issue there. | ||
sharkie
Austria18001 Posts
" Iran's gameplan from the start against ANY team" They always play this way, no matter who their opposition is. | ||
sneirac
Germany3463 Posts
On June 21 2018 23:09 sharkie wrote: Since no one of you seem to have watched any Iran games or can read: " Iran's gameplan from the start against ANY team" They always play this way, no matter who their opposition is. Really? They play this way against inferior opposition too? Because if your only reference is WC games against stronger or equal teams, well the allegedly greatest coach of all time plays defensive and destructive styles against equal teams with squads worth hundreds of millions. | ||
sharkie
Austria18001 Posts
I watch Asian qualifiers and Asia cups so I know what I am talking about | ||
sneirac
Germany3463 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8727 Posts
On June 21 2018 23:09 sharkie wrote: Since no one of you seem to have watched any Iran games or can read: " Iran's gameplan from the start against ANY team" They always play this way, no matter who their opposition is. To be fair Portugal dive, cheat, roll around on the floor, cry and scream like babies even when thy are playing against weaker opposition. Ronaldo probably does it in the bath at home. | ||
sharkie
Austria18001 Posts
On June 21 2018 23:27 sneirac wrote: Well I'll have to defer to you in that case then, because I and likely most here don't. However keep in mind with what style/performance/path Portugal won in 2016 and if rooting for Iran to upset them is actually still that bad. I know its a weak excuse but for me Portugal 2016 is forgiven because of what they had to endure in 2004 at home. That was kinda quid pro quo | ||
mahrgell
Germany3854 Posts
Marocco is already eliminated, the other 3 teams are still in the running and hold it in their own hands. Winning today would let each of them advance. Iran has never made it past the group stages before, but they are also in the least favorable position. Still.. it is a race. Possible qualification scenarios: Spain 1st: - they win and get a better result than Portugal * - they draw, Portugal draws and Spain has a better tiebreaker than Portugal * Spain 2nd: - they win or draw, but have a worse result than Portugal * - they draw, Iran wins - they lose, Portugal wins - they lose by 1, Portugal draws Iran, but Iran doesn't score at least 4 more goals than Spain (e.g. Spain 0-1, Portugal 3-3 -> Spain advances) Spain eliminated: - they lose and Iran wins and Spain has a worse result than Portugal * - they lose by 2 or more and Iran draws - they lose by 1 and Iran draws, scoring at least 4 more goals than Spain (e.g. Iran 4-4 Portugal, Spain 0-1 Marocco) Portugal 1st: - they win or draw and get a better result than Spain * Portugal 2nd: - they win or draw and get a worse result than Spain * - they lose, but still have a better result than Spain * Portugal eliminated: - they lose and have a worse result than Spain * Iran 1st: - they win, Spain draws or loses Iran 2nd: - they win, Spain wins - they draw, Spain loses by 2 or more - they draw, Spain loses by 1, but Iran scores at least 4 goals more than Spain Iran eliminated - they lose - they draw and Spain wins or draws - they draw and Spain loses by 1, and Iran does not score at least 4 goals more than Spain * = About tiebreakers between Portugal and Spain: better result = have a better goal margin or score more goals. In case of the same result, FIFA Fair Play Ranking (FFPR) is deciding. Currently Spain has the advantage here with 1 point, Portugal has 2 (lower is better) If that also ends even, lots are drawn. | ||
Acrofales
Spain17186 Posts
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