On July 11 2018 05:33 nojok wrote:
We fucking did it!!!
Come at us! This wolrd cup is ours!
We fucking did it!!!
Come at us! This wolrd cup is ours!
#itsCROminghome :')))
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snailz
Croatia900 Posts
On July 11 2018 05:33 nojok wrote: We fucking did it!!! Come at us! This wolrd cup is ours! #itsCROminghome :'))) | ||
Mensol
14536 Posts
Wenger is the best pundit :3 | ||
aseq
Netherlands3926 Posts
On July 11 2018 05:35 sharkie wrote: Alsomatuidi was mvp for me this match. He was evetywhere and was fouled by Belgians so many times Matuidi was good, but my vote goes to Varane. Lukaku had about 2 difficult headers in the entire game. Even shortly after Mertens came on (took France a while to realise they should stop the crosses coming in), there were tons of crosses but no headers for Belgium. | ||
Poopi
France12472 Posts
Even in this preview we were seen as underdogs :o. Time wasting this game wasn’t worse than Sweden wasting time against Germany at 11 vs 10, at least we managed to create some nice counter attacks. | ||
sharkie
Austria18003 Posts
Dominating French team, wow | ||
Rookie6
Brazil583 Posts
Tomorrow should be a nice game too, hoping for more goals though. I think the final will be close either way. | ||
aseq
Netherlands3926 Posts
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nojok
France15837 Posts
On July 11 2018 07:14 Rookie6 wrote: Good game, I was expecting more clear goal opportunities by both teams, but both played pretty well. I don´t think France did anything wrong in the final minutes, I have the opinion that it´s part of the game and Mbappe was pretty smart actually, clearly getting in some of the belgians heads. I do find it funny how some people were saying how europeans were above this behavior, when they aren´t. Tomorrow should be a nice game too, hoping for more goals though. I think the final will be close either way. Winning time is unsportsmanlike but spending billions draining two other continents from their talents is fair somehow. | ||
Acrofales
Spain17187 Posts
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darthfoley
United States7999 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
On July 11 2018 05:02 Faruko wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. I don't need to be amused, i just need to realize is part of the game and some of the problem is belgium being trash at scoring vs France if France was losing i can assure you that Mbappe would not be doing that, and he lord Hazard would have. On July 11 2018 05:02 Mensol wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. A life time chance for getting a WC trophy, five minutes left and it doesnt matter if you get a yellow card. i dont blame Mbappe at all. Winning a WC as 19 years old will take lots of pressure from him. Neither of these are satisfactory reasons, aka "he did or would do it so I should do it too!". These players some have some class, but it seems I expect too much. Bummer that most seem to be ok with such behaviour. To be clear, I have no issues if the players decide to pass it to each other, even if I think it's not great, but purposely kicking the ball away after the whistle to waste time is disgusting and I'll stand by that. | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 11 2018 05:57 Mensol wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWkjh-UhBdk Wenger is the best pundit :3 100% agree. Thats why I like him so much. Muller used to be like that aswell. Not easy on the eye but incredibly high IQ and efficient. | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 11 2018 08:17 BigFan wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2018 05:02 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. I don't need to be amused, i just need to realize is part of the game and some of the problem is belgium being trash at scoring vs France if France was losing i can assure you that Mbappe would not be doing that, and he lord Hazard would have. Show nested quote + On July 11 2018 05:02 Mensol wrote: On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. A life time chance for getting a WC trophy, five minutes left and it doesnt matter if you get a yellow card. i dont blame Mbappe at all. Winning a WC as 19 years old will take lots of pressure from him. Neither of these are satisfactory reasons, aka "he did or would do it so I should do it too!". These players some have some class, but it seems I expect too much. Bummer that most seem to be ok with such behaviour. To be clear, I have no issues if the players decide to pass it to each other, even if I think it's not great, but purposely kicking the ball away after the whistle to waste time is disgusting and I'll stand by that. This is not directed at you specifically, but generally to everyone who keeps repeatedly complaining everytime a player goes down. None of those things are preferable, but given its ingrained nature in the game unless its extremely excessive its something you have to live with unless a larger cultural shift is brought in by the administrators. Because it is ingrained and fans have limited capacity to effect this (the ones who are even bothered by it in the first place), thats how it will be for now. I like the game more than I dislike this behavior. That is a subjective choice I make when I spent my time watching. All games have something people can complain about, thats why some people like some things and others like other games. If you find this aspect unbearable feel free to skip the final. No ones who really cares about the game has time for people bitching about minor incidents of time wasting. Sure if you want to shit on excessive behavior thats fine. But every time someone displays some gamesmanship and you cant handle it. Please dont remind us for the 1231241412831 time. There are only two kinds of people who bitch about this all the time. 1) People who dont know jackshit, the once every four years viewer, or that guy who just shows up to tell you why he can never like football because of this, normally American, but ofcourse edgy Europeans will be found doing this aswell (we dont care) 2) People who hypocritically complain when it happens to the team they are supporting. This is not a justification, its just a reality check. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24917 Posts
Does this break the game all of a sudden for me? No, otherwise I wouldn't have bothered watching any of the other matches so your suggestion of skipping the finals is denied. I also think that diving and other crap should be more punishable in the game, rather than the referee taking it easy. From my memory, this is one of the few times that I've actually complained about a player because I found their behaviour that bad (Neymar probably being another lol). Do I think that my one comment will cause some sudden rule change? no, not really since I'm a casual viewer. I only watch soccer every 4 years so I'm not hardcore. However, I also didn't like what I saw so obviously I'm gonna post about it. I'm not from Belgium and have no connections to the country either so I have nothing to gain from this too. | ||
Faruko
Chile34158 Posts
1 penalty (Stupid handball by Umtiti - Australia) 1 Incredibly out of the game shot (Out of this world shot - Argentina) 1 Goal after a corner (Unlucky shot by Messi that hit Mercado - Argentina) 1 Header from a long distance ball (Was the 4-3 and at that point i dont think France was trying that much - Argentina) They have been pretty good on the back lines | ||
evilfatsh1t
Australia8521 Posts
On July 11 2018 08:31 Rebs wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2018 08:17 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 05:02 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. I don't need to be amused, i just need to realize is part of the game and some of the problem is belgium being trash at scoring vs France if France was losing i can assure you that Mbappe would not be doing that, and he lord Hazard would have. On July 11 2018 05:02 Mensol wrote: On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. A life time chance for getting a WC trophy, five minutes left and it doesnt matter if you get a yellow card. i dont blame Mbappe at all. Winning a WC as 19 years old will take lots of pressure from him. Neither of these are satisfactory reasons, aka "he did or would do it so I should do it too!". These players some have some class, but it seems I expect too much. Bummer that most seem to be ok with such behaviour. To be clear, I have no issues if the players decide to pass it to each other, even if I think it's not great, but purposely kicking the ball away after the whistle to waste time is disgusting and I'll stand by that. This is not directed at you specifically, but generally to everyone who keeps repeatedly complaining everytime a player goes down. None of those things are preferable, but given its ingrained nature in the game unless its extremely excessive its something you have to live with unless a larger cultural shift is brought in by the administrators. Because it is ingrained and fans have limited capacity to effect this (the ones who are even bothered by it in the first place), thats how it will be for now. I like the game more than I dislike this behavior. That is a subjective choice I make when I spent my time watching. All games have something people can complain about, thats why some people like some things and others like other games. If you find this aspect unbearable feel free to skip the final. No ones who really cares about the game has time for people bitching about minor incidents of time wasting. Sure if you want to shit on excessive behavior thats fine. But every time someone displays some gamesmanship and you cant handle it. Please dont remind us for the 1231241412831 time. There are only two kinds of people who bitch about this all the time. 1) People who dont know jackshit, the once every four years viewer, or that guy who just shows up to tell you why he can never like football because of this, normally American, but ofcourse edgy Europeans will be found doing this aswell (we dont care) 2) People who hypocritically complain when it happens to the team they are supporting. This is not a justification, its just a reality check. the exact reason people complain about anything is because they want change. sure ranting on tl isnt the same as talking to the guys at fifa, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and can voice it wherever they want. disgusting behaviour is disgusting behaviour, and it should be called out on so that eventually its seen as a wider issue. also i find it hilarious that you call that behaviour "gamesmanship". are you implying that players 20-30 years ago lacked "gamesmanship" because no one rolled around and dived? stop being stupid. the fact is these athletes are grown men playing a fair game and they are choosing to act like 12 yr old girls to exploit the rules and get an advantage. thats just disgraceful no matter how you see it. your opinion on the two kinds of people is also bullshit, since i know many different kinds of football viewers and not one of them is in favour of seeing more dives, time wasting antics, fake injuries etc. youre not the reality police so get off your high horse. you cant say you are making a subjective choice to watch the game despite all that shit and then call out the ones who actually complain about it like you are some higher authority. talk about hypocritical lol | ||
LegalLord
United Kingdom13774 Posts
On July 11 2018 03:38 LegalLord wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2018 03:23 BigFan wrote: Wasn't this supposed to be an easy win for France? Don’t think anyone thought it would be. Seems like a tough match-up for either team. nvm france rolled ezpz Shame I missed it though. Ah well, should be able to make it tomorrow at least. | ||
Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On July 11 2018 11:08 evilfatsh1t wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2018 08:31 Rebs wrote: On July 11 2018 08:17 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 05:02 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. I don't need to be amused, i just need to realize is part of the game and some of the problem is belgium being trash at scoring vs France if France was losing i can assure you that Mbappe would not be doing that, and he lord Hazard would have. On July 11 2018 05:02 Mensol wrote: On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. A life time chance for getting a WC trophy, five minutes left and it doesnt matter if you get a yellow card. i dont blame Mbappe at all. Winning a WC as 19 years old will take lots of pressure from him. Neither of these are satisfactory reasons, aka "he did or would do it so I should do it too!". These players some have some class, but it seems I expect too much. Bummer that most seem to be ok with such behaviour. To be clear, I have no issues if the players decide to pass it to each other, even if I think it's not great, but purposely kicking the ball away after the whistle to waste time is disgusting and I'll stand by that. This is not directed at you specifically, but generally to everyone who keeps repeatedly complaining everytime a player goes down. None of those things are preferable, but given its ingrained nature in the game unless its extremely excessive its something you have to live with unless a larger cultural shift is brought in by the administrators. Because it is ingrained and fans have limited capacity to effect this (the ones who are even bothered by it in the first place), thats how it will be for now. I like the game more than I dislike this behavior. That is a subjective choice I make when I spent my time watching. All games have something people can complain about, thats why some people like some things and others like other games. If you find this aspect unbearable feel free to skip the final. No ones who really cares about the game has time for people bitching about minor incidents of time wasting. Sure if you want to shit on excessive behavior thats fine. But every time someone displays some gamesmanship and you cant handle it. Please dont remind us for the 1231241412831 time. There are only two kinds of people who bitch about this all the time. 1) People who dont know jackshit, the once every four years viewer, or that guy who just shows up to tell you why he can never like football because of this, normally American, but ofcourse edgy Europeans will be found doing this aswell (we dont care) 2) People who hypocritically complain when it happens to the team they are supporting. This is not a justification, its just a reality check. the exact reason people complain about anything is because they want change. sure ranting on tl isnt the same as talking to the guys at fifa, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion and can voice it wherever they want. disgusting behaviour is disgusting behaviour, and it should be called out on so that eventually its seen as a wider issue. also i find it hilarious that you call that behaviour "gamesmanship". are you implying that players 20-30 years ago lacked "gamesmanship" because no one rolled around and dived? stop being stupid. the fact is these athletes are grown men playing a fair game and they are choosing to act like 12 yr old girls to exploit the rules and get an advantage. thats just disgraceful no matter how you see it. your opinion on the two kinds of people is also bullshit, since i know many different kinds of football viewers and not one of them is in favour of seeing more dives, time wasting antics, fake injuries etc. youre not the reality police so get off your high horse. you cant say you are making a subjective choice to watch the game despite all that shit and then call out the ones who actually complain about it like you are some higher authority. talk about hypocritical lol I didnt find anything France did particularly "disgusting" I just watched the game because I wasnt able to catch it properly at work. You can have an opinion, but repeating it over and over again over minor incidents is a valueless opinion. If you feel like you are contributing good for you. You now get to virtue signal pointlessli. Congratulations internet is won. IF it was so disgusting people wouldnt have disagreed with it. For example unless you are a blind fan, no one here has ever tried to justify Neymars antics. And yet people found value in disagreeing here. I wonder why if its so black and white? I guess we are just corrupt ourselves and to blame for the state of the game. Boo us. So really whose being a morality asshat pretending that those people are in favour of cheating ? Yeah... ok lets see whats the next stupid point.. ahh yes gamesmenship. Gamesmenship isnt limited to just exaggerating fouls. So I am not implying that. Not sure where you would get that idea. Now if you really want to get into the the forms gamesmanship 20-30 years ago it was was much much worse if you actually pay attention, go back and watch some games of Garincha or Maradona getting the shit kicked out of them with double feet and scissors. History lesson, the rolling around came after people started getting the shit kicked out of them. Not that its justification but rather a cause to explain the effect that is the culture of exaggerating contact. Obviously its gone in the wrong direction. But its actually dimmed a bit since the amount of exposure. It was actually much worse 10-15 years ago. Enter Simeon, Rivaldo et al.. That kicking and player hunting got phased out, through rules and popular reaction this will aswell eventually if it gets bad enough. The difference is that one physically endangers players and this one upsets peoples sensibilities. Ill let you decide which development is better or worse. Or are you implying that its ok for people to go around diving two footed into each other? + Show Spoiler + see im dong the same thing you did, so easy to twist words, fake news, sad etc etc Finally I said there are two kinds of people who "bitch about this all the time". I didn't say people who are "not in favor of of diving" these are two distinct things so I cant help you if you can differentiate between the two. That would be implying that people who dont bitch about it all the time are in favor of diving. Which again is rather unfair. And yes its gamesmenship what else would you call it ? All I was really pointing out was that the excessive complaining is annoying and anyone with a sense of understanding the game and who "isnt" sitting on a high horse doesnt care. I am not policing anyone, not sure where I asked anyone to shutup or not voice their terrible opinions. I just offered my opinion on those useless opinions. Now instead of engaging my arguments which you kinda tried to do and did an atrocious job off you went and put me on the a hypocritical high horse. I am not particular fond of horses, especially high ones. | ||
Jockmcplop
United Kingdom8727 Posts
On July 11 2018 08:31 Rebs wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2018 08:17 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 05:02 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. I don't need to be amused, i just need to realize is part of the game and some of the problem is belgium being trash at scoring vs France if France was losing i can assure you that Mbappe would not be doing that, and he lord Hazard would have. On July 11 2018 05:02 Mensol wrote: On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. A life time chance for getting a WC trophy, five minutes left and it doesnt matter if you get a yellow card. i dont blame Mbappe at all. Winning a WC as 19 years old will take lots of pressure from him. Neither of these are satisfactory reasons, aka "he did or would do it so I should do it too!". These players some have some class, but it seems I expect too much. Bummer that most seem to be ok with such behaviour. To be clear, I have no issues if the players decide to pass it to each other, even if I think it's not great, but purposely kicking the ball away after the whistle to waste time is disgusting and I'll stand by that. This is not directed at you specifically, but generally to everyone who keeps repeatedly complaining everytime a player goes down. None of those things are preferable, but given its ingrained nature in the game unless its extremely excessive its something you have to live with unless a larger cultural shift is brought in by the administrators. Because it is ingrained and fans have limited capacity to effect this (the ones who are even bothered by it in the first place), thats how it will be for now. This is the frustrating thing. The behaviour is a disgrace, rolling around screaming like little girls, wasting time and generally cheating. With VAR much of this behaviour could be eradicated very quickly by giving an automatic red card for diving in the box if the VAR spots it. If a player is down injured on the pitch they go off, an then have to spend the same amount of time waiting to get back on the pitch afterwards. These kind of rules could make the game about football instead of being about who's better at cheating. I like the game more than I dislike this behavior. That is a subjective choice I make when I spent my time watching. All games have something people can complain about, thats why some people like some things and others like other games. If you find this aspect unbearable feel free to skip the final. No ones who really cares about the game has time for people bitching about minor incidents of time wasting. Sure if you want to shit on excessive behavior thats fine. But every time someone displays some gamesmanship and you cant handle it. Please dont remind us for the 1231241412831 time. This is nonsense. If you don't like it don't watch? Some of us like football, and have a right to be annoyed about players who constantly shit on the very idea of football. Its even more frustrating that most of the best players are also massive cheats. There are only two kinds of people who bitch about this all the time. 1) People who dont know jackshit, the once every four years viewer, or that guy who just shows up to tell you why he can never like football because of this, normally American, but ofcourse edgy Europeans will be found doing this aswell (we dont care) Actually we should care if people don't watch football because of all the cheating. Its not 'edgy' to think a game should be played by the rules. 2) People who hypocritically complain when it happens to the team they are supporting. Yeah this happens, which gives people the perfect excuse for losing. For example, we'll never know if Belgium would have won last night without France constantly cheating for the last half an hour. I guess its just one of those things. | ||
sharkie
Austria18003 Posts
On July 11 2018 16:13 Jockmcplop wrote: Show nested quote + On July 11 2018 08:31 Rebs wrote: On July 11 2018 08:17 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 05:02 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. I don't need to be amused, i just need to realize is part of the game and some of the problem is belgium being trash at scoring vs France if France was losing i can assure you that Mbappe would not be doing that, and he lord Hazard would have. On July 11 2018 05:02 Mensol wrote: On July 11 2018 05:00 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:59 Faruko wrote: On July 11 2018 04:58 BigFan wrote: On July 11 2018 04:52 NihiLStarcraft wrote: Yeah this constant play for time, with the acting, the diving, the shooting/punching the ball away... It's making me never want to watch soccer ever again until they finally fix it. Either by making people actually leave the pitch, time penalties or fixed clock or something. This is garbage. The French are overdoing it here, but honestly every team does it to an extent and I can't stand it... It was obvious as hell especially with Mbappe throwing away the ball and whoever else of the French sat on the ball or w/e else. Disgraceful final x minutes by French. Hope they get destroyed by whoever makes the finals (hopefully Croatia!) So, if Croatia gets to the final and does the exact same thing for the last 10 minutes are you going to ask for Croatia to get destroyed too? so who does destroys who? Sure, I think purposely wasting time is terrible. Even more so when it's obvious as hell. So, let me ask you, you are satisfied with the crap that Mbappe pulled there? I certainly was not amused. A life time chance for getting a WC trophy, five minutes left and it doesnt matter if you get a yellow card. i dont blame Mbappe at all. Winning a WC as 19 years old will take lots of pressure from him. Neither of these are satisfactory reasons, aka "he did or would do it so I should do it too!". These players some have some class, but it seems I expect too much. Bummer that most seem to be ok with such behaviour. To be clear, I have no issues if the players decide to pass it to each other, even if I think it's not great, but purposely kicking the ball away after the whistle to waste time is disgusting and I'll stand by that. This is not directed at you specifically, but generally to everyone who keeps repeatedly complaining everytime a player goes down. None of those things are preferable, but given its ingrained nature in the game unless its extremely excessive its something you have to live with unless a larger cultural shift is brought in by the administrators. Because it is ingrained and fans have limited capacity to effect this (the ones who are even bothered by it in the first place), thats how it will be for now. This is the frustrating thing. The behaviour is a disgrace, rolling around screaming like little girls, wasting time and generally cheating. With VAR much of this behaviour could be eradicated very quickly by giving an automatic red card for diving in the box if the VAR spots it. If a player is down injured on the pitch they go off, an then have to spend the same amount of time waiting to get back on the pitch afterwards. These kind of rules could make the game about football instead of being about who's better at cheating. Show nested quote + I like the game more than I dislike this behavior. That is a subjective choice I make when I spent my time watching. All games have something people can complain about, thats why some people like some things and others like other games. If you find this aspect unbearable feel free to skip the final. No ones who really cares about the game has time for people bitching about minor incidents of time wasting. Sure if you want to shit on excessive behavior thats fine. But every time someone displays some gamesmanship and you cant handle it. Please dont remind us for the 1231241412831 time. This is nonsense. If you don't like it don't watch? Some of us like football, and have a right to be annoyed about players who constantly shit on the very idea of football. Its even more frustrating that most of the best players are also massive cheats. Show nested quote + There are only two kinds of people who bitch about this all the time. 1) People who dont know jackshit, the once every four years viewer, or that guy who just shows up to tell you why he can never like football because of this, normally American, but ofcourse edgy Europeans will be found doing this aswell (we dont care) Actually we should care if people don't watch football because of all the cheating. Its not 'edgy' to think a game should be played by the rules. Show nested quote + 2) People who hypocritically complain when it happens to the team they are supporting. Yeah this happens, which gives people the perfect excuse for losing. For example, we'll never know if Belgium would have won last night without France constantly cheating for the last half an hour. I guess its just one of those things. How did France cheat in the last half an hour? | ||
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