[M][T] Secret Hitler, Act I, Take II - Page 28
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On November 05 2018 03:10 prplhz wrote: When is deadline? Why does everybody think that he is town? What would he do with 2L1F or 3L other than pass me two liberal? Less than 4 hours I might have to post slightly earlier | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2018 02:53 Conversion wrote: Like he wasn’t sure on the last government, he’s not sure on who he’s going to nominate for a government. I said I was nominating either krogan or rayn, probably krogan. Now you're just trying to discredit me for the sake of discrediting me. On November 05 2018 02:53 Conversion wrote: I don’t understand how I’m scummier than prplhz when I made a good call out on his behavior, which he disregared bc “meta” This is why: On November 02 2018 22:32 Conversion wrote: I'm chill with passing this government On November 02 2018 23:49 kitaman27 wrote: Do you have any opinion of prpl specifically? On November 02 2018 23:53 Conversion wrote: Let me take a look into his filter. You show absolutely no concern regarding whether grack has nominated a town looking player. When I ask you about your opinion about prpl, you show that you haven't even looked at him. When you actually do give an answer about prpl when I asked you twice, you point out a bunch of things wrong with him and pass the team through for "information". Your explanation about why that was a good thing looks scummy to me. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2018 03:26 prplhz wrote: Why do you think grack is town kita? He passed on his own presidency at a point where the vote was really close. There was a 50% chance at FFL, which is great for a facist president because they can discard L and claim FFF. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2018 04:37 kitaman27 wrote: He passed on his own presidency at a point where the vote was really close. There was a 50% chance at FFL, which is great for a facist president because they can discard L and claim FFF. I guess there's a scenario where that could make sense as a Hitler play, but I'm not even close to entertaining that at this point in the game. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On November 05 2018 04:37 kitaman27 wrote: He passed on his own presidency at a point where the vote was really close. There was a 50% chance at FFL, which is great for a facist president because they can discard L and claim FFF. Isn't that just how the probabilities work out almost always? | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2018 05:18 prplhz wrote: Isn't that just how the probabilities work out almost always? Yeah, same logic would apply to almost any cycle. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
To me, he was afraid of me, of the cards, of any responsibility. At some point, something is going to happen, and he seemed to be saying "please just let it happen to someone else". If some president has to get 3F, I hope it will be me, just a lot easier to deal with for me. | ||
prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
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Grackaroni
United States9714 Posts
On November 05 2018 05:46 prplhz wrote: Who will you elect for chancellor kita? Will you vote for yourself or vote no for the towncred? Cute. | ||
[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
The proposed government is: President Conversion and Chancellor raynpelikoneet. You have to send Mocsta and me your votes. | ||
kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On November 05 2018 05:46 prplhz wrote: Who will you elect for chancellor kita? Will you vote for yourself or vote no for the towncred? Krogan most likely. You seem annoyed that I had a change of opinion on grack and view him as town now, yet you don't really seem to have a scum read on grack yourself. Why is yet? | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42140 Posts
On November 05 2018 05:42 prplhz wrote: I don't know, I just don't get how, that not wanting to take responsibility and do stuff is a townie thing. Downvoting your own government because of the chancellor that you yourself chose seems like he didn't even want to get elected in the first place. I think that his reason for passing me 2L instead of 1L1F seems townie but I'm not even convinced that that is what he did. And even just watching the cards dealt to him, and to me, seems to be worth it. I don't think you are necessarily wrong here, or like, i think Grack is town but this doesn't soud dumb or anything. Except that i think Grackaroni should always give you LF instead of LL there, in my opinion he would have gotten way more town credit from passing you LF there. To me, he was afraid of me, of the cards, of any responsibility. At some point, something is going to happen, and he seemed to be saying "please just let it happen to someone else". If some president has to get 3F, I hope it will be me, just a lot easier to deal with for me. This i disagree with. When the election started, Grackaroni was originally going to pick Conversion / Rels. How is that more "avoiding responsibility" to pick you and then downvoting his own government? I mean because as i se it the only reason Grackaroni picked you was because i vouched for you, and when you were picked you immediately started acting like you didn't even want to get picked. I think Grackaroni's reaction also makes sense in that situation. Secondly, you yourself said this: Conversion seems to actively attempt to lose this game, I don't know if Rels always acts like this? Like he doesn't player D1 and then he doesn't really play D2 and then he complains on D3 or something. Do you think you yourself "look scummier" than these people? If not, then why Grackaroni needs to go through all this trouble to end up in a government where he can avoid responsibility when he could have just picked Conv/Rels -> and his government would be rejected most likely without him having to not backpedal? | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42140 Posts
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byj
491 Posts
On November 04 2018 13:01 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Thanks <3 On November 05 2018 18:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: For the record i just went to check the last game and idk what people are talking about but byj was the only one in that game to even vote for mafia and almost figured out the game on D2. Yeah he didn't say much there but what do you expect in a game that was something ridiculous like 10 pages in total. The point is he actually had reads and they werent even retarded. <3 Probably the game before that asking random questions that don't seem like they serve a purpose. What makes you think they don't serve a purpose? On November 04 2018 21:32 happykrogan wrote: but I acknowledge that you might think you had a good plan. I was hoping for people to come 'defend' my plan, or try to not push me too hard. There would be no reason to do so, so I can assume the people doing so are Scum trying to gain my credit. Especially now in hindsight that Rels and Conversation seem to be easy to push as Scum instead (doesn't mean I think they're innocent either, they flatout ignored what I did =\). | ||
happykrogan
Germany408 Posts
On November 05 2018 20:05 byj wrote: Thanks <3 <3 Probably the game before that What makes you think they don't serve a purpose? I was hoping for people to come 'defend' my plan, or try to not push me too hard. There would be no reason to do so, so I can assume the people doing so are Scum trying to gain my credit. Especially now in hindsight that Rels and Conversation seem to be easy to push as Scum instead (doesn't mean I think they're innocent either, they flatout ignored what I did =\). A plan you still didn't share with us. So what was your plan? Or your fake plan to cover up the actual plan which was finding people that would defend your fake plan. Also don't you think it's more probable that scum would attack you on this? The second half of your post looks like your reasoning for scum potentially defending you, is that Rels and Conversion are targets that are easier to push for mafia, so you have to think they're town. But then you say you don't think they have to be innocent so your whole post doesn't make sense. | ||
happykrogan
Germany408 Posts
A lot of his filter hints at this imo. The whole voting but not talking thing I could interpret as an attempt to communicate with his scumbuddies. Also he is talking a lot about hitler. Like almost half of his serious posts. Or maybe this is true for himself, and he is a normal fascist but one way or the other and I don't think I will ever vote him this game. | ||
happykrogan
Germany408 Posts
[/QUOTE] Would that be any reliable though, anybody could say it, and Hitler would have no way to find out he's wrong? Also is letting Hitler know who you are that important? I feel like Hitler wouldn't want to take podshots at people anyway, so people would vote for him later on [/QUOTE] On November 04 2018 03:09 byj wrote: How come? If Scum is up early they can just stick to the liberal policies, since it's likely that by the end there will only be fascist left, no? On November 04 2018 05:11 byj wrote: Oh you're right So I guess they'll have to find out with communication onto the same person, should be no other way to differentiate between hitler and fascist otherwise The bolded seems like "asking advice" of how to play his role. Also in his very little post count he talks a bit too much about mafia strategy. I tried to fix the quotation error, but I have no Idea how to do it. | ||
byj
491 Posts
On November 05 2018 20:33 happykrogan wrote: A plan you still didn't share with us. So what was your plan? Or your fake plan to cover up the actual plan which was finding people that would defend your fake plan. Is getting reads onto people not a plan? Also don't you think it's more probable that scum would attack you on this? The second half of your post looks like your reasoning for scum potentially defending you, is that Rels and Conversion are targets that are easier to push for mafia, so you have to think they're town. There are only 3 Scums, so 'having a solid scumread' against 3 as Scum would be sub-optimal, since then you'd pretty much expected to vote for everyone else. So max. 2 townies, but likely more, if you're Hitler, or pretending to play against other Fascists. But then you say you don't think they have to be innocent so your whole post doesn't make sense. I really don't get the logic in that conclusion, care to elaborate? | ||
byj
491 Posts
On November 05 2018 22:15 happykrogan wrote: (which would be kind of funny because he is austrian) On November 05 2018 22:15 happykrogan wrote: The whole voting but not talking thing I could interpret as an attempt to communicate with his scumbuddies. Also he is talking a lot about hitler. Like almost half of his serious posts. Why would Hitler need to out himself? | ||
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