not even discuss really, there's 1 thing that i wanted to say and it is
What the hell, Bisu?
So Bisu, what the hell?
Seriously, what the hell Bisu?
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imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
not even discuss really, there's 1 thing that i wanted to say and it is What the hell, Bisu? So Bisu, what the hell? Seriously, what the hell Bisu? | ||
Sprite
United States1015 Posts
I for one like it because it will cause more pr drama which is fun to read. Good job FakeSteve! | ||
Frits
11782 Posts
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klizzer
517 Posts
Where's Up? I'd like to point out that UpMagiC has been doing a bit better than Yarnc. He certainly deserves a top 10 place, or at least a CNBC, as he's beasted the Proleague recently and qualified for both leagues. IMHO, Up > both Yarnc and Hwasin (marginally better). I think #5 for Bisu is justified, karma got him. Seriously, to get eliminated by a slumping sAviOr and ZerO in a group he chose himself? Too cocky and stupid. I'd wonder where could Fantasy go, but he didn't play anything besides his sloppy games in proleague recently, so... yet, he's also in both leagues. Also, skyhigh, I thought his play against BeSt was really sexy, definitely something to look out for. One final word: FAKESTEVE's POWER RANK OWNS! Overall, it was very well chosen. | ||
CDRdude
United States5625 Posts
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Eternity241
Australia342 Posts
On January 16 2009 06:33 CDRdude wrote: Did Bisu really play all that badly in his MSL games last night? I'm no expert, but I thought he was playing pretty well, just his opponents were playing better. He hasn't really looked all that bad to me, although I haven't seen his OSL games. It seemed to me like Bisu was just relying on how good his PvZ is and didn't practise for it that much. Maybe he was dedicating his practice time to PvT for skyhigh? But honestly it doesn't justify getting out of both leagues with ZERGS AS HIS OPPONENTS. His decision making in the game vs Zero was horrible, deciding to suicide some eight zealots instead of defending. For all I know right now, Bisu needs to get himself back on track in his PvZ. His PvT will be tested soon and that will be a good measure as to whether Bisu's being sent into a slump. Good PR, imo I would replace Yarnc with Effort, as yarnc's 4-0 of his group was partly because his opponents were hardly any that you could call good, not to take anything away from him. | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On January 16 2009 07:17 Eternity241 wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2009 06:33 CDRdude wrote: Did Bisu really play all that badly in his MSL games last night? I'm no expert, but I thought he was playing pretty well, just his opponents were playing better. He hasn't really looked all that bad to me, although I haven't seen his OSL games. It seemed to me like Bisu was just relying on how good his PvZ is and didn't practise for it that much. Maybe he was dedicating his practice time to PvT for skyhigh? But honestly it doesn't justify getting out of both leagues with ZERGS AS HIS OPPONENTS. His decision making in the game vs Zero was horrible, deciding to suicide some eight zealots instead of defending. For all I know right now, Bisu needs to get himself back on track in his PvZ. His PvT will be tested soon and that will be a good measure as to whether Bisu's being sent into a slump. Good PR, imo I would replace Yarnc with Effort, as yarnc's 4-0 of his group was partly because his opponents were hardly any that you could call good, not to take anything away from him. Yeah, his opponents were awful. But he caved their heads in. Yarnc is an odd character. On an off day, he'd lose to those two. On a good day, they have a snowball's chance in hell. He's either one of the best Zergs around, or a complete newb, and it fluctuates regularily. Luxury is the same way. | ||
imperfect
Canada1652 Posts
especially yellow. remember his game on hitchhiker vs oov? omfg T-T but yeah, he's never consistant. and his zvp sucks. | ||
Polar_Bear
Germany55 Posts
I think Leta's placement is only about scores, look at the players on the PR and tell me who of them he beat within the last 3 month? ... yeah 1! the "big" Hwasin... aka "the insurance terran", scouts anyone!? Leta has got an incredible win-rate vs. B- and C-players, but hasn't shown anything good vs. the top players yet. Dropping Bisu to 5... let's forget about what he did to Flash, let's forget who's the current ELO-#1, let's forget who has the best PL win rate of all players (against better opponents than Leta)... let's don't care about that shit, the thing which counts is dropping a total of 4 games vs. hypermotivated players on the worst PvZ-maps ever... yeah, that's the good stuff why is Best #7? ok, he lost to Skyhigh who played HUGE!!! how did the "#1" get into the GOM-semifinals? Backho broke his back... he would have doomed him anyway.. he's the number 1!! who did play better? Upmagic or Hwasin? July or Yellow? at least Upmagic >>>> Hwasin is pretty obvious I think putting Leta on #2 might be justified by giving him every possible benefit of the doubt (which normally isn't done), the rest seems just... weird!? | ||
d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On January 16 2009 07:40 Polar_Bear wrote: no offense to anyone, but this PR seems to be a little bit ... ironic!? I think Leta's placement is only about scores, look at the players on the PR and tell me who of them he beat within the last 3 month? ... yeah 1! the "big" Hwasin... aka "the insurance terran", scouts anyone!? Leta has got an incredible win-rate vs. B- and C-players, but hasn't shown anything good vs. the top players yet. Dropping Bisu to 5... let's forget about what he did to Flash, let's forget who's the current ELO-#1, let's forget who has the best PL win rate of all players (against better opponents than Leta)... let's don't care about that shit, the thing which counts is dropping a total of 4 games vs. hypermotivated players on the worst PvZ-maps ever... yeah, that's the good stuff why is Best #7? ok, he lost to Skyhigh who played HUGE!!! how did the "#1" get into the GOM-semifinals? Backho broke his back... he would have doomed him anyway.. he's the number 1!! who did play better? Upmagic or Hwasin? July or Yellow? at least Upmagic >>>> Hwasin is pretty obvious I think putting Leta on #2 might be justified by giving him every possible benefit of the doubt (which normally isn't done), the rest seems just... weird!? honestly if backho had beaten jangbi i think half of TL would go gay and trek to Korea | ||
Eternity241
Australia342 Posts
On January 16 2009 07:40 Polar_Bear wrote: no offense to anyone, but this PR seems to be a little bit ... ironic!? I think Leta's placement is only about scores, look at the players on the PR and tell me who of them he beat within the last 3 month? ... yeah 1! the "big" Hwasin... aka "the insurance terran", scouts anyone!? Leta has got an incredible win-rate vs. B- and C-players, but hasn't shown anything good vs. the top players yet. Dropping Bisu to 5... let's forget about what he did to Flash, let's forget who's the current ELO-#1, let's forget who has the best PL win rate of all players (against better opponents than Leta)... let's don't care about that shit, the thing which counts is dropping a total of 4 games vs. hypermotivated players on the worst PvZ-maps ever... yeah, that's the good stuff why is Best #7? ok, he lost to Skyhigh who played HUGE!!! how did the "#1" get into the GOM-semifinals? Backho broke his back... he would have doomed him anyway.. he's the number 1!! who did play better? Upmagic or Hwasin? July or Yellow? at least Upmagic >>>> Hwasin is pretty obvious I think putting Leta on #2 might be justified by giving him every possible benefit of the doubt (which normally isn't done), the rest seems just... weird!? I think Leta's on 2 because of his current form. He's raping everyone he's playing in all his games, and as FS said, everyone else around him plays shitty on some days (I'm looking at you bisu). I don't think TOO much attention should be put on Bisu being 5, because after his losses in msl/osl, I would say that he's at about the same playing level as Jaedong and Stork now. It comes back to Leta being on 2, simply because everyone else around him (save jangbi) are playing sloppily and shakily. Jangbi would've raped backho either way even if Backho didn't get his back injured. | ||
Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On January 16 2009 07:51 Eternity241 wrote: Jangbi would've raped backho either way even if Backho didn't get his back injured. Backho shits all over predictions. I really wish Jangbi hadn't gotten a free ticket to play free in the semifinals... | ||
Amarxist
United States371 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Kal is showing that he desperately wants to be something more than an average, second-rate protoss. He's made the semifinal of the current MSL in convincing fashion, so now my unfair hatred has a new target. FUCK YOU, JANGBI. YOU SUCK. | ||
noddyz
United Kingdom462 Posts
Surely the possible revoloution of ZvT, with a unit we never dreamed could used effectivly, is at least worth a mentionin the PR? | ||
QuietIdiot
7004 Posts
On January 16 2009 02:46 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: Show nested quote + On January 16 2009 02:42 QuietIdiot wrote: By.great deserves some kind of mention imo. Wait, you mean the zerg from Samsung? Formerly known as Hades? Why? I'll grant you he has some strong ZvZ, but nothing else I've seen has made me think he has any sort of league success in his future. Can you point out some recent games that make you think he's worth mentioning? I'm sure I haven't seen all of them, cuz he's played almost nothing but scrubs. O fuck me, I meant by.hero He's looking quite strong as of late, by.great is sub-par, yes. | ||
d_so
Korea (South)3262 Posts
On January 16 2009 08:15 noddyz wrote: I dont know about Jaedong at 4. Everything you said about him is true but since the last PR Jaedong did something far more important than winning games. He used Queens. Not only used them in fact, but abused them to the point where M&M play is now in question. I watched those games vs fantasy, skyhigh and hwsain, and they made more excited than i'd ever been about starcraft. It was amazing. Surely the possible revoloution of ZvT, with a unit we never dreamed could used effectivly, is at least worth a mentionin the PR? too many people were shitting on queens for too many years for there to be an open acknowledgment of Jaedong's queens. i think those that have been particularly vocal against this "theorycraft" are hoping it will pass away like a fad | ||
Jonoman92
United States9091 Posts
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
Because what is the reason behind Jangbi's 1st spot ? #2 Leta deserves more than Jangbi. Also Flash lost fucking 3 game to Bisu and he is at spot 3 Aaaand Jaedong is nowhere in GOM yet he is still ahead of Bisu Last of all why the hell Bisu is # 5 ? Ok he is eliminated both from MSL and OSL but he reached the 3rd ELO of all time this month and defeated Flash 3 times , yet he is in rank 5. So wrong Fakesteve so wrong | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
thank you for your work steve | ||
SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
plus jangbi rules. there should be a jangbi highlight video, a full 10 minute clip of him busting up tank pushes and storming the fuck out of everyone | ||
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