On October 19 2010 10:32 torm3ntin wrote:
lol that was awesome. thank god i could see all games!!!
lol that was awesome. thank god i could see all games!!!
Look at my BoxeR view estimate post, there is a proof that it exceeded 774,000.
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Str1keFreedom
United States112 Posts
On October 19 2010 10:32 torm3ntin wrote: lol that was awesome. thank god i could see all games!!! Look at my BoxeR view estimate post, there is a proof that it exceeded 774,000. | ||
Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On October 19 2010 09:26 Redox wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2010 08:47 Fraidnot wrote: The thing with the possible Boxer vs Nada match is that they're conspicuously in brackets that look less difficult than others.Seriously if I was running the tournament and could set it up so that one of the bonjwas had a very good chance to make it to the semifinals, you can bet I'd arrange for it. I think it is generally accepted that the brackets are made by GomTV in order to favor famous players. Even here on team liquid we have seen numerous calls for rigging the qualification brackets in favor of the fan favorites. In my opinion that is kind of sad. I believe that e-sport can only be accepted as a real sport when there are fair and public draws like in other sports. But this is only a minor problem in comparison to the danger of match fixing. The few hundred Dollars players get in the first stages of the tourney compared to the huge market value of a star like Boxxer makes match fixing look extremely tempting. So what do you propose, seeds are completely random and half of the players we want to see are out in the Ro64? Everyone in the tourney is limited only by their own ability to take it all. How do you know random guy #43 facing Boxer isn't the next Boxer himself? And if those players truly aren't worthy, then they shouldn't advance anyways and we see the matches we want to see as the tourney progresses. I see no issue here. Tournament 'seeding' revolves around the same concept: the strongest players play the weakest to minimize early upsets. | ||
Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
On October 19 2010 10:09 forr4078 wrote: Normally the number of concurrent viewers during that time period is 50 thousand to 70 thousand. When GSL Season 1 finals was on air, there were 150,000 concurrent viewers throughout the GomTV channels. During Boxer's game, that number broke through 770,000, unprecedented in GomTV's history, according to the GomTV guy in charge. It's no wonder their servers crashed. Nobody would have expected this, especially not during the Korean Series Baseball. Wow that is a huge number. | ||
Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
On October 19 2010 09:26 Redox wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2010 08:47 Fraidnot wrote: The thing with the possible Boxer vs Nada match is that they're conspicuously in brackets that look less difficult than others.Seriously if I was running the tournament and could set it up so that one of the bonjwas had a very good chance to make it to the semifinals, you can bet I'd arrange for it. I think it is generally accepted that the brackets are made by GomTV in order to favor famous players. Even here on team liquid we have seen numerous calls for rigging the qualification brackets in favor of the fan favorites. In my opinion that is kind of sad. I believe that e-sport can only be accepted as a real sport when there are fair and public draws like in other sports. But this is only a minor problem in comparison to the danger of match fixing. The few hundred Dollars players get in the first stages of the tourney compared to the huge market value of a star like Boxxer makes match fixing look extremely tempting. Not too sure about that, putting Fruitdealer and TLO (one of the 2 western hopes) so close together and making NaDa and Boxer clash before the semi-finals does not seem like too much rigging. | ||
vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Str1keFreedom
United States112 Posts
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forr4078
Korea (South)12 Posts
On October 19 2010 10:32 BraveGhost wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2010 10:09 forr4078 wrote: Normally the number of concurrent viewers during that time period is 50 thousand to 70 thousand. When GSL Season 1 finals was on air, there were 150,000 concurrent viewers throughout the GomTV channels. During Boxer's game, that number broke through 770,000, unprecedented in GomTV's history, according to the GomTV guy in charge. It's no wonder their servers crashed. Nobody would have expected this, especially not during the Korean Series Baseball. if 770,000 is accurate, that is ridiculously insane... Did another search, and it looks like all those numbers aren't concurrent but cumulative. Sorry about that. But even so, it is still ridiculously high. | ||
Yotta
United States270 Posts
On October 19 2010 10:41 Valikyr wrote: As for Nada and Boxer meeting in the Ro8: If they had seeded them in different brackets it would be less likely that they would meet at all. They probably figured it was best to just make one huge weak bracket, stick the two of them in it, and have a pretty decent chance of a somewhat late boxer vs nada match instead of putting both of them in separate, harder brackets and potentially hindering the performance of both for a smaller chance of a marginally-higher-profile match.Show nested quote + On October 19 2010 09:26 Redox wrote: On October 19 2010 08:47 Fraidnot wrote: The thing with the possible Boxer vs Nada match is that they're conspicuously in brackets that look less difficult than others.Seriously if I was running the tournament and could set it up so that one of the bonjwas had a very good chance to make it to the semifinals, you can bet I'd arrange for it. I think it is generally accepted that the brackets are made by GomTV in order to favor famous players. Even here on team liquid we have seen numerous calls for rigging the qualification brackets in favor of the fan favorites. In my opinion that is kind of sad. I believe that e-sport can only be accepted as a real sport when there are fair and public draws like in other sports. But this is only a minor problem in comparison to the danger of match fixing. The few hundred Dollars players get in the first stages of the tourney compared to the huge market value of a star like Boxxer makes match fixing look extremely tempting. Not too sure about that, putting Fruitdealer and TLO (one of the 2 western hopes) so close together and making NaDa and Boxer clash before the semi-finals does not seem like too much rigging. | ||
teacash
Canada494 Posts
On October 19 2010 08:14 DragonDefonce wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2010 08:07 teacash wrote: The time will come when opponents of legends / fan faves like this are being paid off to lose their matches, in the interest of greatly increasing tourney revenue / popularity.. Hopefully it never gets too bad (or noticeable ) Please tell me you weren't around for SC1. If you were and you made that joke.......... *sigh. Too soon bro. I'm still hurting. The feeling of the victims of match fixing matter for at least another 10 months. I wasn't around for SC1 never played the game once | ||
endy
Switzerland8966 Posts
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Hikko
United States1126 Posts
On October 19 2010 10:47 forr4078 wrote: Show nested quote + On October 19 2010 10:32 BraveGhost wrote: On October 19 2010 10:09 forr4078 wrote: Normally the number of concurrent viewers during that time period is 50 thousand to 70 thousand. When GSL Season 1 finals was on air, there were 150,000 concurrent viewers throughout the GomTV channels. During Boxer's game, that number broke through 770,000, unprecedented in GomTV's history, according to the GomTV guy in charge. It's no wonder their servers crashed. Nobody would have expected this, especially not during the Korean Series Baseball. if 770,000 is accurate, that is ridiculously insane... Did another search, and it looks like all those numbers aren't concurrent but cumulative. Sorry about that. But even so, it is still ridiculously high. Still, they're all unique viewers and the numbers are probably much more accurate than television ratings which only track one out of every couple of viewers and then use some algorithm to determine the actual viewership. Even then, if you just tune into part of the show you'll be counted as viewing it. I think it's safe to say that the 770,000 tuned into Boxer's game. | ||
antas
Indonesia300 Posts
On October 19 2010 10:59 endy wrote: Boxer is gonna save SC2 in Korea. Blizzard should give him a few million dollars instead of spending dozens of millions for painting planes and aggressive marketing. Perhaps Boxer should start to ask Blizzard & Gom to acknowledge his authorities (IP right lol). Blizzard/Gom should bow to the emperor. On a side note: I would really love to hear what boxer thinks about the current KeSPA situation. | ||
Ganondorf
Italy600 Posts
Now just look at happiness (boxer's opponent for today), a good player for sure, but for GSL standards, he was below average. It's not a coincidence i think... I don't think it will go so far as to pay off people to lose. This is esports, spectators aren't stupid and something like that will get noticed immediatly. I also don't think Boxer himself would tolerate such a thing. He may have an easier bracket to get to the ro16 or even ro8, but aftert that there's not much more they can do, he will have to play and win vs top level players at that point. | ||
LaLLsc2
United States502 Posts
On October 19 2010 10:59 endy wrote: Boxer is gonna save SC2 in Korea. Blizzard should give him a few million dollars instead of spending dozens of millions for painting planes and aggressive marketing. Future business' will make decisions like this. Look @ google for starters. Outside the box creative thinking underlined with passion is what will make future companies great. Good point endy | ||
Raysalis
Malaysia1034 Posts
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Mortician
Bulgaria2332 Posts
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AyJay
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CtrlAltGG
United States36 Posts
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Mellois
United States56 Posts
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.Aar
Korea (South)2177 Posts
But of course it'd happen; it's freaking BOXER. | ||
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