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On December 16 2010 11:24 Jayrod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:52 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:48 crms wrote:On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol. while i agree MLG is generally entertaining.. entertainment doesn't really equate to skill level displayed. Bronze level funday mondays are entertaining, it doesn't mean the games are high level. So you think the top level foreigners suck or something? :S Think of it this way... Foreigners at the GSL are like europeans that come over and play in the NBA. Jinro is Pau Gasol, but most of them are just Vlade Divac.
and we all know how it looked when Vlade went up against Shaq
good analogy btw lol
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On December 16 2010 11:24 Jayrod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:52 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:48 crms wrote:On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol. while i agree MLG is generally entertaining.. entertainment doesn't really equate to skill level displayed. Bronze level funday mondays are entertaining, it doesn't mean the games are high level. So you think the top level foreigners suck or something? :S Think of it this way... Foreigners at the GSL are like europeans that come over and play in the NBA. Jinro is Pau Gasol, but most of them are just Vlade Divac.
theres dirk nowitzki, tony parker, pau's brother marc is doing well as well, hedo turkoglu? and peja stojakovic wasnt bad, back in the day.. as was drazen petrovic...
id say european players are doing pretty darn good in the NBA, and i believe foreigners should be able to be pretty darn good in the GSL as well...
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On December 16 2010 10:08 RaLakedaimon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol. I second this, that dude apparently didnt watch Jinro, Tylers, or honestly nearly any player that was casted games because this last MLG was insane. Low level is a great way of saying "i didnt watch mlg and im a douche".
Not really. I watched both. Like he said, entertaining != skilled. You can't honestly think that MLG skill level is greater than or even close to equal to GSL skill level. If you really need it spelled out, think about it this way. Alot of MLG players didn't even QUALIFY for GSL.
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On December 16 2010 11:34 nufcrulz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 11:24 Jayrod wrote:On December 16 2010 09:52 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:48 crms wrote:On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol. while i agree MLG is generally entertaining.. entertainment doesn't really equate to skill level displayed. Bronze level funday mondays are entertaining, it doesn't mean the games are high level. So you think the top level foreigners suck or something? :S Think of it this way... Foreigners at the GSL are like europeans that come over and play in the NBA. Jinro is Pau Gasol, but most of them are just Vlade Divac. theres dirk nowitzki, tony parker, pau's brother marc is doing well as well, hedo turkoglu? and peja stojakovic wasnt bad, back in the day.. as was drazen petrovic... id say european players are doing pretty darn good in the NBA, and i believe foreigners should be able to be pretty darn good in the GSL as well...
and how many of those guys won the title?...parker won but because of Duncan, so if Dirk can win it for Mavs this year I will agree
PS my favorite is Sabonis, what a baller
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On December 16 2010 11:36 oxxo wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 10:08 RaLakedaimon wrote:On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol. I second this, that dude apparently didnt watch Jinro, Tylers, or honestly nearly any player that was casted games because this last MLG was insane. Low level is a great way of saying "i didnt watch mlg and im a douche". Not really. I watched both. Like he said, entertaining != skilled. You can't honestly think that MLG skill level is greater than or even close to equal to GSL skill level. If you really need it spelled out, think about it this way. Alot of MLG players didn't even QUALIFY for GSL.
TBH I don't really think much of the GSL skill level either... and next years' GSL will be entirely single elim so... ugh.
There are a few solid players but I don't really feel as if the tourneys are choosing the best player in the world. Right now, solid consistent play is the strongest determiner of ability, perhaps we will see amazing talent matter more in the years to come.
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On December 16 2010 13:21 GoldenH wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 11:36 oxxo wrote:On December 16 2010 10:08 RaLakedaimon wrote:On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol. I second this, that dude apparently didnt watch Jinro, Tylers, or honestly nearly any player that was casted games because this last MLG was insane. Low level is a great way of saying "i didnt watch mlg and im a douche". Not really. I watched both. Like he said, entertaining != skilled. You can't honestly think that MLG skill level is greater than or even close to equal to GSL skill level. If you really need it spelled out, think about it this way. Alot of MLG players didn't even QUALIFY for GSL. TBH I don't really think much of the GSL skill level either... and next years' GSL will be entirely single elim so... ugh. There are a few solid players but I don't really feel as if the tourneys are choosing the best player in the world. Right now, solid consistent play is the strongest determiner of ability, perhaps we will see amazing talent matter more in the years to come.
i didn't know you could be good with inconsistent play we haven't seen any amazing talent because people are still perfecting strategies, it will take time
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On December 16 2010 11:36 MassHysteria wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2010 11:34 nufcrulz wrote:On December 16 2010 11:24 Jayrod wrote:On December 16 2010 09:52 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:48 crms wrote:On December 16 2010 09:30 blade55555 wrote:On December 16 2010 09:26 k20 wrote:On December 16 2010 08:57 Subversion wrote: people making the point that if blizzard waits people will complain they only care about korean tourneys etc etc, but if they patched after the tourney, noone would know they had waited anyway. i mean they haven't given a date for the patch neway. And then we will tune them out because we don't care what they think. After watching GSL anyway I find it hard to go back and watch the comparatively low level play of MLG or whatever. The low level of play at MLG? MLG has provided alot more entertaining games then GSL imo lol. while i agree MLG is generally entertaining.. entertainment doesn't really equate to skill level displayed. Bronze level funday mondays are entertaining, it doesn't mean the games are high level. So you think the top level foreigners suck or something? :S Think of it this way... Foreigners at the GSL are like europeans that come over and play in the NBA. Jinro is Pau Gasol, but most of them are just Vlade Divac. theres dirk nowitzki, tony parker, pau's brother marc is doing well as well, hedo turkoglu? and peja stojakovic wasnt bad, back in the day.. as was drazen petrovic... id say european players are doing pretty darn good in the NBA, and i believe foreigners should be able to be pretty darn good in the GSL as well... and how many of those guys won the title?...parker won but because of Duncan, so if Dirk can win it for Mavs this year I will agree PS my favorite is Sabonis, what a baller
Well this certainly got de-railed.
Let's get back on track. I'm pretty amazed that they would do something like this. Seems like a terrible decision, and it's like they don't care at all what this could mean for the GSL.
Then again, the changes aren't so major that they'd make Rain win a game off of MC of anything.
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I just logged in and got some "tools update". That is all the blizzard updater said. Anyone else get this?
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I hope they wait to bring the patch out after the GSL final even if it is only minor balance changes.
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On December 16 2010 13:41 TexSC wrote: I just logged in and got some "tools update". That is all the blizzard updater said. Anyone else get this?
same, i can confirm there was some form of patch... no idea what was in it. But my best guess since the description was tools update, is that the changes on the PTR for the editor were introduced into retail. And nothing affecting gameplay wise.
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got it too.. perfect, best patch ever ^^
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On December 16 2010 13:41 TexSC wrote: I just logged in and got some "tools update". That is all the blizzard updater said. Anyone else get this?
same, tools update but still 1.1.3
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I logged in and got it. I'm not sure whether then changes were included though.
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So is this it? Doesn't seem like it should affect things as John the Translator said.
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it is only a tools update
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I think the update might be for the blizzard updater itself? Perhaps in preparation for the patch tomorrow.
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anyone can elaborate what the tools upgrade consists of?
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haha i see. well that explains it. i like that answer. sounds better than what i already forgot i was gonna say T_T
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Sabonis was amazing, and Divac had a pretty good career.
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On December 16 2010 14:34 0neder wrote: Sabonis was amazing, and Divac had a pretty good career. haha wwhat?
edit: look at my above posts spoiler lol
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