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HawaiianPig
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a7choi
United States1664 Posts
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DJONES
United States218 Posts
On March 03 2011 19:03 xarthaz wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2011 18:58 hellbound wrote: On March 03 2011 18:47 xarthaz wrote: On March 03 2011 18:33 doothegee wrote: On March 03 2011 18:33 hellbound wrote: QUeens... who stole hoejja's M button??? AND HIS G BUTTON UGH HOEJJA YOU ARE EMBARASSING ALL ZERG PLAYERS Uhh whats wrong.. Guards are terrible vs mech as are mutas with 0/0 upgs. Queens work better late game Mass mutas absolutely pwn mech when so much has been invested into tanks. Possibly mid game when its 0/0 vs 0/0. Late game, when its 0/0 mutas vs 3/3 mech its a massacre, and not. It takes like forever to even kill a single tank. The pros obviously know this, which is why they never do a late game muta switch While I agree with you about 0/0 mutas being ineffective against upgraded mech...the logic of: "If progamers don't do it, it must not be feasible" is incredibly flawed. The meta game is constantly changing, which just goes to show how amazing a game scbw is | ||
hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
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Spica
United States5582 Posts
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Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
On March 03 2011 18:45 Brad` wrote: HoeJJa is a bad ass Game of the night, definitely. It may not have been all that impressive mechanically, both players made a lot of mistakes, but it certainly was the most entertaining game of the night. Helluva crowd pleaser. | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On March 03 2011 19:11 hellbound wrote: Tanks don't shoot into air regardless of upgrades and it takes a split second for 30+ mutas to take out a bunch of them. 90% Of bogus' resources was mines and tanks and the rest were turrets and gols who do half damage to mutas, so yeah it would definitely have been a massacre, not of mutas though. Oh well Hoejja won, maybe he was consciously taking the piss there, with suck a huge macro advantage he could afford to. do you have any replays/vods of a muta tech switch beating a late game (whole map taken and moderately split) mech army? | ||
valaki
Hungary2476 Posts
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NicksonReyes
Philippines4431 Posts
On March 03 2011 19:12 Spica wrote: Wooo, it seems that the MSL wants to Protoss it up this time~ :DDD Expect again some epic PvZs because there are a lot of seeded Zergs. Flash just gonna tear through Ps and Zs though | ||
Lucumo
6850 Posts
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CoWsGoesMoo
250 Posts
On March 03 2011 19:17 NicksonReyes wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2011 19:12 Spica wrote: Wooo, it seems that the MSL wants to Protoss it up this time~ :DDD Expect again some epic PvZs because there are a lot of seeded Zergs. Flash just gonna tear through Ps and Zs though Then get eliminated by some T in ro16? ZING. | ||
hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
On March 03 2011 19:14 Kiante wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2011 19:11 hellbound wrote: Tanks don't shoot into air regardless of upgrades and it takes a split second for 30+ mutas to take out a bunch of them. 90% Of bogus' resources was mines and tanks and the rest were turrets and gols who do half damage to mutas, so yeah it would definitely have been a massacre, not of mutas though. Oh well Hoejja won, maybe he was consciously taking the piss there, with suck a huge macro advantage he could afford to. do you have any replays/vods of a muta tech switch beating a late game (whole map taken and moderately split) mech army? You need a vod as proof that tanks don't have AA? Yes I do. "mech army" is quite an ambiguous term. Answer me this : if you see 20tanks 20 mines in front 8 turrets 6 gollies and 2 vessels would attack this head on with ground or choose to overrun the puny AA with pure muta and continue to rape the tanks? The map was not split either. Edit: Oh and forgot 15 vultures. | ||
Askalaphos
Germany772 Posts
And thanks for the music-commentary. | ||
GTR
51146 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On March 03 2011 19:22 GTR wrote: Ace with the second most players qualifying for the MST. They didn't have any seeded players though | ||
nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
i mean apart from yeOngJae, all the others made it right? | ||
Kiante
Australia7069 Posts
On March 03 2011 19:22 hellbound wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2011 19:14 Kiante wrote: On March 03 2011 19:11 hellbound wrote: Tanks don't shoot into air regardless of upgrades and it takes a split second for 30+ mutas to take out a bunch of them. 90% Of bogus' resources was mines and tanks and the rest were turrets and gols who do half damage to mutas, so yeah it would definitely have been a massacre, not of mutas though. Oh well Hoejja won, maybe he was consciously taking the piss there, with suck a huge macro advantage he could afford to. do you have any replays/vods of a muta tech switch beating a late game (whole map taken and moderately split) mech army? You need a vod as proof that tanks don't have AA? Yes I do. "mech army" is quite an ambiguous term. Answer me this : if you see 20tanks 20 mines in front 8 turrets 6 gollies and 2 vessels would attack this head on with ground or choose to overrun the puny AA with pure muta and continue to rape the tanks? The map was not split either. You're missing out that bogus had vessels, he had alot of turrets. And he had alot of facs that could pump out golis. it takes a little bit of time to just make 30 mutalisks appear. You must watch BW and see a protoss 12 nex and go "why doesn't the terran just marine rush". So, do you have any proof? or are you just theorycrafting. | ||
DJONES
United States218 Posts
On March 03 2011 19:25 Kiante wrote: Show nested quote + On March 03 2011 19:22 hellbound wrote: On March 03 2011 19:14 Kiante wrote: On March 03 2011 19:11 hellbound wrote: Tanks don't shoot into air regardless of upgrades and it takes a split second for 30+ mutas to take out a bunch of them. 90% Of bogus' resources was mines and tanks and the rest were turrets and gols who do half damage to mutas, so yeah it would definitely have been a massacre, not of mutas though. Oh well Hoejja won, maybe he was consciously taking the piss there, with suck a huge macro advantage he could afford to. do you have any replays/vods of a muta tech switch beating a late game (whole map taken and moderately split) mech army? You need a vod as proof that tanks don't have AA? Yes I do. "mech army" is quite an ambiguous term. Answer me this : if you see 20tanks 20 mines in front 8 turrets 6 gollies and 2 vessels would attack this head on with ground or choose to overrun the puny AA with pure muta and continue to rape the tanks? The map was not split either. You're missing out that bogus had vessels, he had alot of turrets. And he had alot of facs that could pump out golis. it takes a little bit of time to just make 30 mutalisks appear. You must watch BW and see a protoss 12 nex and go "why doesn't the terran just marine rush". So, do you have any proof? or are you just theorycrafting. It's funny you would say that, as many of the top terrans routinely punish greedy protoss w/ early marine rushes. In the Bogus vs Hoejja game, there were many instances where mutalisks would have been effective. You don't need a VOD to prove that. | ||
ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
Protoss (13) By.Sun Trap Paralyze Horang2 Food5 Grape JangBi M18M Shuttle Pure BeSt Tyson Dear Terran (7) Canata Reality firebathero RuBy Mind Sharp HiyA Zerg (6) ggaemo n.Die_soO hero HoeJJa HyuN Hyuk Some of the notable eliminated players are: Brave, Movie, Pusan, TurN, Bogus, BaBy, Modesty and Kwanro | ||
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