I'd also blame some of if on Broodlord infestor, if these guys come out in numbers it is a struggle as terran or protoss, just to not die in the next minute or 2. It's really not fun to play against. I've had many great tug of war, back and forth games against zergs, that ended abruptly because of these 2 units. You have to play REALLY well to beat them if you aren't far ahead economically when they come out.
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
I'd also blame some of if on Broodlord infestor, if these guys come out in numbers it is a struggle as terran or protoss, just to not die in the next minute or 2. It's really not fun to play against. I've had many great tug of war, back and forth games against zergs, that ended abruptly because of these 2 units. You have to play REALLY well to beat them if you aren't far ahead economically when they come out. | ||
SeAK
Canada69 Posts
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
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slicknav
1409 Posts
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dOraWa
Korea (South)53 Posts
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
On September 21 2012 10:54 slicknav wrote: When the game first came out, a lot of people played terran. Maybe some of them switched races? no no its so difficult queing units so they gave up all hope of life because they arent mma or mvp or something stupid like that | ||
Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
On September 21 2012 10:31 Wrathsc2 wrote: its just harder playing at that level as terran imo. I would argue that there just aren't that many good NA terrans. Honestly, I can hardly name any terrans on the NA server anymore that post results, while there are plenty of korean terrans that seem to be doing just fine (if not better than all the other races). | ||
MateShade
Australia736 Posts
On September 21 2012 10:55 dOraWa wrote: It IS a more difficult race to play. When I switched from Zerg, I was mid masters and promptly dropped to low master. It took about 3 months to get back to mid master as Terran, but I'm now considering switching to Protoss because the prospects for Terran look grim and I play the game for fun anyways, not to fight an uphill battle in 2 of the 3 TvX matchups. I have a crazy theory about this. When you began off racing as terran, it wasnt as good as your main race??! and it took time for it to be as good as your main race???? no way!! | ||
SeAK
Canada69 Posts
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Positronic
121 Posts
On September 21 2012 10:57 MateShade wrote: I have a crazy theory about this. When you began off racing as terran, it wasnt as good as your main race??! and it took time for it to be as good as your main race???? no way!! lmao you are grasping at so many straws dude, it's obvious you don't play terran so why don't you switch to find out exactly how hard it is, or just pipe down with your stupid passive-aggressive bullshit about why people should consider T balanced (even though players better than you will say it has underpowered T3 units compared to the other races, and IS harder than the other races) you just have to look at the statistics and if you aren't smart enough to do that, gtfo | ||
canikizu
4860 Posts
On September 21 2012 10:40 sekritzzz wrote: Its a bit hilarious how all these people are throwing random conclusions such as "terran is a hard race to play, thus less people play it". Its as if sc2 came out a month ago. For people who didn't know terran was quite popular back in the day.... and zerg was played at a 20%~ rate. Hahaha no. If you are into statistic and stuff, you'll know that Terran has been the least popular race since season 2(!!!). There were different reasons of course, but Terran was in no way the popular race throughout WoL's life, except season 1. | ||
MateShade
Australia736 Posts
On September 21 2012 11:04 Positronic wrote: lmao you are grasping at so many straws dude, it's obvious you don't play terran so why don't you switch to find out exactly how hard it is, or just pipe down with your stupid passive-aggressive bullshit about why people should consider T balanced (even though players better than you will say it has underpowered T3 units compared to the other races, and IS harder than the other races) you just have to look at the statistics and if you aren't smart enough to do that, gtfo I play terran, It's not harder | ||
v3chr0
United States856 Posts
Terran are under-represented just how Protoss and Zerg was for nearly 2 years; THINGS CHANGE and unless you have some secret formula to gauge the skill level of every player, you'll never know the reasoning, neither will Blizzard. It's a guessing game, and the best guess the Terrans have, is that they're weak right now/hardest to play; its a joke. | ||
GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
You all realise that this just means that there are less people playing terran, right? | ||
Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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Zombo Joe
Canada850 Posts
In fact the late game sometimes comes down to terran waiting for his opponent to fuck up really badly because he has no other way of winning. Perhaps in a metagame where terran gets constant nerfs and all the games go to the lategame, it might not seem like a good choice to play terran. | ||
xrapture
United States1644 Posts
I guess Zergs just magically learned to play like Fruitdealer when he won GSL and they were struggling, right? Nope. Buff after buff, maps got bigger, and Terran got gutted. Now, in HOTS, Terran is receiving nothing interesting-- a shitty spidermine and firebat. And, as a high masters Terran, I DO find Zerg easier to play. When I have a advantage, I don't have to worry about losing my entire army in .5 seconds to 1 storm, fungal, or surround. I can just play and comfortably know I'll win. | ||
MCXD
Australia2738 Posts
When people see a zerg suddenly summon an enormous swarm of 100 zerglings in a few seconds and overwhelm an army... "omg zerg OP, how can they get so many units" - When people see a small group of protoss units, some zealots and archons say, take out a squad of marines, "omg protoss OP, those units look ridiculously strong" When terran wins? Well the protoss had less units than the terran, and the zerg didn't have enough of an advantage of numbers since they're just flimsy bug creatures. The aesthetics of the races and the fact that terran doesn't "look" or "feel" overpowered in any regard makes them unappealing, despite any actual balance. Also humans are boring compared to super tech aliens and swarmy infested armies. | ||
Seam
United States1093 Posts
On September 21 2012 11:04 Positronic wrote: lmao you are grasping at so many straws dude, it's obvious you don't play terran so why don't you switch to find out exactly how hard it is, or just pipe down with your stupid passive-aggressive bullshit about why people should consider T balanced (even though players better than you will say it has underpowered T3 units compared to the other races, and IS harder than the other races) you just have to look at the statistics and if you aren't smart enough to do that, gtfo Someone switches races. They aren't as good with the new race. They blame it on balance. How is pointing out that it's obvious that when you race change you're going to be weaker at the new race, grasping at straws? What are these statistics? The ones in this thread? Anything under Plat is useless, because balance means nothing below it. Literally nothing. Difficulty for beginners maybe, but not balance. | ||
ThePianoDentist
United Kingdom698 Posts
Whilst I don't think it is imbalanced, i do feel that it has a much higher skill ceiling than the other races, where it only reaches its full potential where players have ridiculous unit control and multitask. It's even seen in the top foreigners, that in the foreigner scene its a lot easier to be a top foreign protoss, or top foreign zerg. This isn't to say high level protoss or zerg players are bad, but it just requires more time put into the game to reach a high level with terran, time that most players dont have. I do not blame people for not playing terran, people like to win. People like to progress and for people with jobs, other commitments; who cant mass ladder so much, when you play p or z its just more likely for you to rise through the leagues rather than stagnating being stuck at a skill level, which is a frustrating feeling in starcraft. I think part of the blame is blizzards, i think many of the terran players who stopped playing or race switched did so because they felt unfairly targeted by blizzard, how every single patch released seemed to nerf terran in some way. Like the queen change just felt like a kick in the balls for terran players as nobody asked for it but it just has such a drastic effect on tvz. | ||
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