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On October 19 2010 07:35 DJEtterStyle wrote: I'm hoping for the best, but as several other people have mentioned, Obsidian's track record is too spotty to purchase New Vegas before reviews are in.
2010 has been a rough year for gaming (aside from, y'know, the release of StarCraft II). It's had one good RPG, which came out in January. I am starving for an RPG.
Same Ive just been downloading every rpg that seems interesting from piratebay, but just been going back to fallout 3. Can't wait for new vegas.
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On October 19 2010 09:36 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 09:23 chesshaha wrote: Game comes out in a few hours on steam. Anyone knows the exact time and time zone? midnight pacific time Show nested quote +They only had less than a year to develop this game, they started few months after the release of the final DLC for FO3. huh? Obsidian worked on the game for over a year and a half.
How long has Fallout: New Vegas been in development? Since before Fallout 3 was released
Chris Avellone: No, actually. It was like a few months after the release of the last Fallout 3 DLC that Bethesda wanted to start up the next installment in the series. They approached us after that.
http://www.vg247.com/2010/05/04/interview-obsidians-chris-avellone-on-fallout-new-vegas/
Mothership Zeta was released August 3, 2009. So yea...
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First: While Avellone is being unclear, you really need to read the rest of your own link. The game was announced in April 2009 and it has been known that Obsidian was developing since then.
Second, from J.E. Sawyer:
The Mojave Wasteland started as a greyscale image turned into a "height map" for generating the raw clay of terrain that, in the final tally, hundreds of people labored over for a year and a half.
http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/vault/diaries_diary14-10.18.10.html
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Screenshots look very disappointing.
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On October 19 2010 09:58 Mindcrime wrote:First: While Avellone is being unclear, you really need to read the rest of your own link. The game was announced in April 2009 and it has been known that Obsidian was developing since then. Second, from J.E. Sawyer: Show nested quote +The Mojave Wasteland started as a greyscale image turned into a "height map" for generating the raw clay of terrain that, in the final tally, hundreds of people labored over for a year and a half. http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/vault/diaries_diary14-10.18.10.html
I read it, and understood that NV was announced in April 2009. Base on the interview, it seemed perfectly clear to me that he said they started developing the game "a few months after the release of the last Fallout 3 DLC".
But I guess Avellone wasn't answering the question properly.
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On October 19 2010 10:08 Durak wrote: Screenshots look very disappointing.
I hope you're not judging the game based on screenshots... This was originally a Brood War forum...
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On October 19 2010 10:50 lynx.oblige wrote:I hope you're not judging the game based on screenshots... This was originally a Brood War forum...
Sorry this still is a BW forum. SC2 is still just a part xD
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On October 19 2010 10:50 lynx.oblige wrote:I hope you're not judging the game based on screenshots... This was originally a Brood War forum... I love Brood War. The graphics aren't terrible, they're just simple.
Graphics are a reasonable part of an FPS atmosphere-based game. In this, the graphics and scenery just look ugly. Somehow, they don't even look as good as Fallout 3.
I found Fallout 3 to get boring half way through the game. Since my first impression from the screenshots is bad, I expect this one to be even worse.
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Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all time favorite games. Fallout 3 on PC is, as a standalone, an ok game. As a sequel to the first two epic games its a piece of worthless trash that deserves to be rammed up the ass of which ever money hungering programmer that was responsible for its making.
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On October 19 2010 12:07 yups wrote: Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all time favorite games. Fallout 3 on PC is, as a standalone, an ok game. As a sequel to the first two epic games its a piece of worthless trash that deserves to be rammed up the ass of which ever money hungering programmer that was responsible for its making. Chill out. Chill out. Why are Fallout 1/2 fans the most petulant of all? Maybe there are worse fan bases, but even BW loving SC2 haters seem much more amicable and logical to me. You even admit it is okay, but then decide to knowingly apply an unfair standard to Fallout 3.
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On October 19 2010 12:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 12:07 yups wrote: Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all time favorite games. Fallout 3 on PC is, as a standalone, an ok game. As a sequel to the first two epic games its a piece of worthless trash that deserves to be rammed up the ass of which ever money hungering programmer that was responsible for its making. Chill out. Chill out. Why are Fallout 1/2 fans the most petulant of all? Maybe there are worse fan bases, but even BW loving SC2 haters seem much more amicable and logical to me. You even admit it is okay, but then decide to knowingly apply an unfair standard to Fallout 3. fallout three really is so unlike 1 and 2. and thats why. it's pretty much a different game and genre/style set in the fallout universe (except even this is untrue as its east coast in FO3 and not west coast) thats why.
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On October 19 2010 12:23 PrinceXizor wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 12:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On October 19 2010 12:07 yups wrote: Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all time favorite games. Fallout 3 on PC is, as a standalone, an ok game. As a sequel to the first two epic games its a piece of worthless trash that deserves to be rammed up the ass of which ever money hungering programmer that was responsible for its making. Chill out. Chill out. Why are Fallout 1/2 fans the most petulant of all? Maybe there are worse fan bases, but even BW loving SC2 haters seem much more amicable and logical to me. You even admit it is okay, but then decide to knowingly apply an unfair standard to Fallout 3. fallout three really is so unlike 1 and 2. and thats why. it's pretty much a different game and genre/style set in the fallout universe (except even this is untrue as its east coast in FO3 and not west coast) thats why. I suppose but Metroid Prime seems pretty analogous and seemed to win people over eventually, and many over immediately.
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http://humpsalot.imgur.com/
loads of screen dump from the official game guide, lots of interesting information and the perks seems alot more interesting than Fallout 3...
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On October 19 2010 12:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote: Chill out. Chill out. Why are Fallout 1/2 fans the most petulant of all? Maybe there are worse fan bases, but even BW loving SC2 haters seem much more amicable and logical to me. You even admit it is okay, but then decide to knowingly apply an unfair standard to Fallout 3.
I personally could apply so many unfair standards to Fallout 3 a sane person would think twice about liking the game. It was 85% previous fallout games, 10% fallout bible, 5% originality, and 100% done by people that didn't know what the hell Fallout was about.
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On October 19 2010 12:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 12:07 yups wrote: Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all time favorite games. Fallout 3 on PC is, as a standalone, an ok game. As a sequel to the first two epic games its a piece of worthless trash that deserves to be rammed up the ass of which ever money hungering programmer that was responsible for its making. Chill out. Chill out. Why are Fallout 1/2 fans the most petulant of all? Maybe there are worse fan bases, but even BW loving SC2 haters seem much more amicable and logical to me. You even admit it is okay, but then decide to knowingly apply an unfair standard to Fallout 3.
Play fallout 1 and 2. Then, only then will you get it.
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On October 19 2010 13:48 Lexpar wrote: Play fallout 1 and 2. Then, only then will you get it. You mean that turn based rpgs are neither fun nor lucrative? jk jk, i'm a fan of the old school but it's just to much to expect them to make a game that only 5 people will play.
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If they made a fallout (mmo)RPG more than 5 people would play it. The fallout brand is enormous now. This is a silly argument to start, I'm just defending my old favorites. That said, I LOVE fallout 3 and am looking forward to New Vegas. I just find it easy to understand why huge fans of the first would resent them.
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On October 19 2010 12:26 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2010 12:23 PrinceXizor wrote:On October 19 2010 12:20 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:On October 19 2010 12:07 yups wrote: Fallout 1 and 2 are two of my all time favorite games. Fallout 3 on PC is, as a standalone, an ok game. As a sequel to the first two epic games its a piece of worthless trash that deserves to be rammed up the ass of which ever money hungering programmer that was responsible for its making. Chill out. Chill out. Why are Fallout 1/2 fans the most petulant of all? Maybe there are worse fan bases, but even BW loving SC2 haters seem much more amicable and logical to me. You even admit it is okay, but then decide to knowingly apply an unfair standard to Fallout 3. fallout three really is so unlike 1 and 2. and thats why. it's pretty much a different game and genre/style set in the fallout universe (except even this is untrue as its east coast in FO3 and not west coast) thats why. I suppose but Metroid Prime seems pretty analogous and seemed to win people over eventually, and many over immediately. thats a difference in fanbase and reason for liking the games. Metroid fans love it for two reasons, the story and lore of the game, and nostalgia for the original metroid games. Fallout players like the grittyness (present in FO3) and the gameplay of 1 and 2 (not present)
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This game is so good. I am loving it, I fell asleep during the into/ tutorial of Fallout 3, this one had my attention the whole time. I guess its just the Vegas theme that got me.
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