Hello to all my fellows here. I read about news in magazine recently about case of cremation against burial, especially in America and Europe, that it is becoming popular and people want it for their choice, and I want to know what you guys think, especially that almost all are American.
As you know, to Muslim it is forbidden, because there are specific instructions that the body must be buried, and how to do so. In short, it is tradition, as it is not an instituted method of respect to dead, and in fact inceniration, eaten by vulture or beast, and left alone in the dessert or open are considered sacriligious. I try to understand this as tradition of my religion, and in fact afraid to go against it. But I keep an open mind, especially with all the modern influence in the society.
On the other hand, I perfectly understand cremation. It is practical, fast, and cheaper. There is less burden for everyone, especially for family. I also see one of its practical advantage is the less emotional approach to death. You can mourn it, but not really dwell on it as you would when there is body for days. Personally, I think I'd prefer this.
What do you think? Would you favor burial or cremation?
On March 23 2012 00:09 Kerotan wrote: I can I get a vote for excarnation? I really want the flesh picked from my bones by wild animals, and then my bones stored in a tomb.
On March 23 2012 00:05 reincremate wrote: I don't think dead people should take up space or waste resources, because they're no longer people.
They don't take up space or waste ressources, the dead bodies are actually getting mineralised to feed the ground they are buried in, and therefore feed ALL kinds of animals and plants. In other words burying is good for the nature, while cremation just wastes your valuable minerals and burns them for some useless heat. Think about it.
On March 23 2012 00:20 Equity213 wrote: Death is just a scam for your money anyways. When im about to croak im gunna cover myself in BBQ sauce and go wander into the woods. Hopefully I will be eaten by wolves and my family wont have to pay for a ripoff coffin or urn.
On March 23 2012 00:19 dibbaN wrote: Burial. Cremation is also horrible for the eco systems, no energy goes back to nature, contributes to the greenhouse effect etc. I mean, why not? Though I'd like to donate by body to science if there was a third choice.
On March 23 2012 00:09 Hibzy wrote: I will be cremated after having whatever organs that can be donated removed, I would rather my body be destroyed than have it take up valuable space.
[x] organ donor, I don't give a flying f*ck what happens with my 'meat' after I'm finished using it.
Whatever is the cheapest and/or ecologically sound.
Here in Germany, it is even allowed to be cremated and then to buried in urns that dissolve within a year or so, maybe that is something for me. And of course, I have no clue what burial customs will be like in the far future, which I hope to witness.
I am a cultural muslim, meaning that I'm living in a country where Islam is the predominant religion (Turkey) but I am not a religious person, actually threading the line between agnosticism and atheism. With that in mind, I think cremation feels like the best option. Not only it doesn't occupy space as burial do, but it is cleaner, faster and most likely cheaper. Given the option I would prefer it, but sadly it isn't really possible for us "Muslims" which the state wants to brand pretty much anyone born here from the moment of birth without any regards to what the newborn would believe in, like, 18 years or something.
Oh and as someone else have noted, I would donate my organs aswell. They're no use of to me, but they could save lives.
I really don't care what happens to my body at all, but I'd go with cremation as well, simply because of financial reasons. I wouldn't want whomever is left of my family to pay and care for the bigger space that is needed for a burial. I come from a family where taking care of the grave has always been a point of tension between my parents and uncels/aunts and the reason for scuffles. A cremation may not completly avoid those problems, but is at least able to lessen them.
On March 23 2012 00:09 Kerotan wrote: I can I get a vote for excarnation? I really want the flesh picked from my bones by wild animals, and then my bones stored in a tomb.
On March 23 2012 00:05 reincremate wrote: I don't think dead people should take up space or waste resources, because they're no longer people.
They don't take up space or waste ressources, the dead bodies are actually getting mineralised to feed the ground they are buried in, and therefore feed ALL kinds of animals and plants. In other words burying is good for the nature, while cremation just wastes your valuable minerals and burns them for some useless heat. Think about it.
When I die I want any useful organs taken out to be donated, then I want a non-degradeable box containing a description of my life implanted in my chest and then I want my body thrown into a swamp. So in a slightly abstract way I guess that means I prefer burial.
There aren't that many cremation services over here, but burial services are abundant and easy to find. I heard burials are also cheaper by comparison, but I'm not sure if this is true. Apart from the concern that finding a crematory, organizing the event and explaining to people that aren't familiar with cremation why this is happening would be additional burdens on my family, I think it is prefferable for the reasons in the above and below posts.
Cremation. There's no burden on taking up space, or having your family/loved ones visit you in such a depressing place. If I have anything that's useful, why not take it?
Hmm don't really care, I'l let my family decide and pick whatever they feel comfortable with. Whether it be sprinkling ashes on a beach in Hawaii at 12 noon or a coffin, I don't much care.
Burial. Cremation is also horrible for the eco systems, no energy goes back to nature, contributes to the greenhouse effect etc. I mean, why not? Though I'd like to donate by body to science if there was a third choice.
Death is just a scam for your money anyways. When im about to croak im gunna cover myself in BBQ sauce and go wander into the woods. Hopefully I will be eaten by wolves and my family wont have to pay for a ripoff coffin or urn.
One of the reasons I don't fear the inevitability of death is because I take solace in the fact that I will be buried (or at least will request to be buried) in the Karpaty mountains of Poland, which is where I originate from and where some of the most spectacular moments of my childhood have taken place. The whole idea of forever being with the mountains and nature I love so much calms me down. Sure it may be selfish to request that my family go so far out of their way to ensure a proper burial for me, but when I think about it, it really isn't all that selfish at all. If my parents were to request a place for burial I would comply in an instant and not think anything about it. It's all about respecting their last wishes to me.
I'd love to have my body be left for wild animals.
Otherwise, cremation. Cheaper, faster, easier. Ash has many uses, here in northern finland we use ash to help clear pathways of snow, that would be pretty cool.
Mummfication is a cool tradition aswell, I think it should be reinstated. I'm not so big on trolling but having half your relatives be killed and buried with you aswell as all the riches would be pretty funny, quite a bit different from the current tradition of fighting over inheritance even before you have passed. And Mummies can curse people and were pretty imba in Areena 4 or maybe it was 5. ( it's a sick gladiator simulator, probably the best game ever)
On March 23 2012 00:20 Equity213 wrote: Death is just a scam for your money anyways. When im about to croak im gunna cover myself in BBQ sauce and go wander into the woods. Hopefully I will be eaten by wolves and my family wont have to pay for a ripoff coffin or urn.
This is the best! LOL. But isnt blood already sauce for animals?
none of the above. I want my body (or at least my brain because that's what makes me who I am) frozen so that in the future I could possibly be brought back when technology is advance enough. I think death is just a technical problem waiting to be solved, just like diseases.
Cremation, because my family shouldn't have to spend too much money disposing of my useless pile of bio-stuff. It's selfish to want a casket which is inevitably worth multiple thousands of dollars and a full out expensive burial. If your family wants it, it's another story. Expensive traditions though, meh.
I prefer cremation, because I don't want my descendants have to pay for my grave and so on. And on most graveyards your body is removed after a set number of years anyway - at least in Germany i think.
On March 23 2012 00:05 reincremate wrote: I don't think dead people should take up space or waste resources, because they're no longer people.
They don't take up space or waste ressources, the dead bodies are actually getting mineralised to feed the ground they are buried in, and therefore feed ALL kinds of animals and plants. In other words burying is good for the nature, while cremation just wastes your valuable minerals and burns them for some useless heat. Think about it.
I'm not in favour of cremation (despite my user name lol) or conventional burial. Conventional burials (i.e., ones in cemeteries) waste substantially more energy they produce (wood from coffins, maintenance of the cemetery, tombstones, fossil fuels required to ship/manufacture the materials, etc.) and the space they take up isn't used for anything else.
I hate the idea of burial, so cremation all the way. It won't matter to me anyway though, so whatever works. Although I want to donate my organs to science or whatever, so I think another poll should be added to OP:
I'm not donating my organs to anybody. That would feel weird. At the same time I don't really care if I'm cremated or buried. Both of em have their perks. Probably cremation though. I'd like the feeling of being free and have my ashes thrown out at sea.
If I save up the money for it before I die, I plan of having part of my body pressed into a diamond, which will then become a family heirloom (albeit a slightly morbid one). As for the rest of me, cremation or not doesn't matter, so long as I've got a big-ass headstone with a bitchin' quote on it, perhaps about how awesome/sexy/intelligent I was.
On March 23 2012 00:49 StyLeD wrote: I'm not donating my organs to anybody. That would feel weird. At the same time I don't really care if I'm cremated or buried. Both of em have their perks. Probably cremation though. I'd like the feeling of being free and have my ashes thrown out at sea.
Probably cremation. I find something creepy about the idea of having my body preserved, put in a sealed box, and stuck in the ground where it will sit for decades.
I want to go out in the way that takes the least energy, but doesn't involve maggots or other organisms eating my corpse, or my corpse decaying in general. For whatever reason it freaks me out, even if its the best option for the environment.
So I was thinking...maybe they could just throw my body into a volcano (after putting it in a simple box first). If its too much of a hassle then just go for cremation probably... and then throw my ashes into the sea so they can do something useful.
Edit: The ultimate option would be to have my body fired into the sun. I would really love that - I would be so happy imagining my epic death
I'd prefer to be cremated. But I want my lil' woody cut off, preserved, then placed on my ashes so if anyone gets curious about what's in my urn, they're in for a surprise.
On March 23 2012 00:56 Tatari wrote: I'd prefer to be cremated. But I want my lil' woody cut off, preserved, then placed on my ashes so if anyone gets curious about what's in my urn, they're in for a surprise.
On March 23 2012 00:55 radscorpion9 wrote: I want to go out in the way that takes the least energy, but doesn't involve maggots or other organisms eating my corpse, or my corpse decaying in general. For whatever reason it freaks me out, even if its the best option for the environment.
So I was thinking...maybe they could just throw my body into a volcano (after putting it in a simple box first). If its too much of a hassle then just go for cremation probably... and then throw my ashes into the sea so they can do something useful.
Edit: The ultimate option would be to have my body fired into the sun. I would really love that - I would be so happy imagining my epic death
You mean like the most environmental friendly alternative? I guess....... get eaten by a grizzly or something and get pooped out and serve as fertilizer.
On March 23 2012 00:56 Tatari wrote: I'd prefer to be cremated. But I want my lil' woody cut off, preserved, then placed on my ashes so if anyone gets curious about what's in my urn, they're in for a surprise.
On March 23 2012 00:55 radscorpion9 wrote: I want to go out in the way that takes the least energy, but doesn't involve maggots or other organisms eating my corpse, or my corpse decaying in general. For whatever reason it freaks me out, even if its the best option for the environment.
So I was thinking...maybe they could just throw my body into a volcano (after putting it in a simple box first). If its too much of a hassle then just go for cremation probably... and then throw my ashes into the sea so they can do something useful.
Edit: The ultimate option would be to have my body fired into the sun. I would really love that - I would be so happy imagining my epic death
Haha, but your ultimate option would take the most energy XD
I'm not religious, so cremation for me. Far cheaper, and I find the whole idea of having my body buried in the ground marking who I am really fucking strange..I will probably end up saying something like that in my will that I would want to be cremated and have my ashes spread over the ocean or whatever.
the ground needs dead bodies, so it will have mine as well! But I would like if everyone skipped the funeral or whatever, just throw the body in the ground, no fancy stuff needed for a corpse.
I wanna be put in a cheap ply-wood box for 5 bucks. Then buried in the middle of nowhere with no head stone. It makes zero sense to spend money on a dead body.
Most definitely cremation, though what really bothers me about the burial is more so the ritual than where my corpse ends up.
Where I come from, traditional burial rituals have some extremely disturbing elements to them. I really don't take it well and it's been a horrifying experience each time I had to attend one. Definitely not something I'd want to put anyone else through for my sake.
Cremation makes a lot more sense. No reason to waste space on a dead piece of meat. Too bad in some places there's very little rationale involved when it comes down to death related matters, traditions give people comfort I guess.
If I die early (however you may interpret early), I would hope that my organs are donated, and then I would be cremated. Cremation just makes more sense to society. You're not taking up space, it's cheaper and it gets the whole process over and done with quickly.
I would probably asked for my body to be stripped of any useful organs which would then be donated, and then my body would be neatly buried underneath an oak tree so that my last great act would be to fertilize the ground.
On March 23 2012 02:04 Kinetik_Inferno wrote: I would probably asked for my body to be stripped of any useful organs which would then be donated, and then my body would be neatly buried underneath an oak tree so that my last great act would be to fertilize the ground.
I don't really care, as long as my organs can be donated! Everyone not donating his organs for whatever reason, may it be religious or just because he feels like it is SICK. If you don't donate your organs your brain is incapable of adapting to the 21st (or even 20th) century. There shouldn't be an option to not donate them at all. But we're still medieval in so many parts of the world because of religion it's not even funny.
On March 23 2012 00:05 reincremate wrote: I don't think dead people should take up space or waste resources, because they're no longer people.
They don't take up space or waste ressources, the dead bodies are actually getting mineralised to feed the ground they are buried in, and therefore feed ALL kinds of animals and plants. In other words burying is good for the nature, while cremation just wastes your valuable minerals and burns them for some useless heat. Think about it.
wrong, your bones don't give any minerals, they'll stay the same for ages. also, your body take take long to rot, and your coffin don' rot for a long time, and that coffing takes up space for others that would have to be burried. also, when you are burrying people, you can'r buildt anything on that ground, as it is an "holy" semitary.
Also, your body don't lose any og it's value by being burde, as you can't destroy energy. your body have the exact same value, the only differnce is that it is another type of matter.
Well Ive been stealing from the Earth ever since I was brought onto it, so Im going to give back a bit and give it my body. It can have my energy. It'll be my thank you to Earth lol. Who knows maybe Ill get sucked into the lifestream and come back years later in a hardened state to teach some kid magic.
I will donate organs, and pref. to be burned as to save space. Besides, this isnt even the important part. Instead of a sad ass sobby funeral service, I want to leave money to have a big ass fuckign party with champagne and tons of food, where people actually get to have a good time, and spend their energy remembering the good times, instead of crying about the sad stuff. We had a big party like this for my grandpa, and as strange as it sounds, I actually had fun at his "funeral".
Obv. its a little sad, but we literally spent all night getting hammered and laughing with friends about all the hilarious shit he had done in his life. Was a really good experience.
On March 23 2012 00:15 GreEny K wrote: Burial, I'm traditional.
Same here. My family wants to be buried together, et cetera. And we're not even religious ::shrugs:: Plus, having a nice wake and funeral for your loved ones is the last nice thing you can do for someone you care about.
I'm actually surprised that so many people want to be cremated. For those who pick cremated, are your deceased family members cremated or buried?
I wish to get buried somewhere in a forest under a nice tree, without any signs and no one should know the place or shot into deep space. Unfortunately that's legally not possible where I life atm. :-(
when you get cremated, you give nothing back to the ecosystem. all the energy in your body is released into the atmosphere. also I want to donate as much as my dead body as possible.
On March 23 2012 00:15 GreEny K wrote: Burial, I'm traditional.
Same here. My family wants to be buried together, et cetera. And we're not even religious ::shrugs:: Plus, having a nice wake and funeral for your loved ones is the last nice thing you can do for someone you care about.
I'm actually surprised that so many people want to be cremated. For those who pick cremated, are your deceased family members cremated or buried?
My deceased family members are a good mix of both, never asked about why each one did it differently so no clue as to their motives.
Burial for 2 reasons 1)am died so it don't matter what happens to my body if there is a place for my soul to go to am sure it will be long gone by then. besides some people are saying its good for the earth so why not help earth a little in my passing. making up for a few cans of coke i tossed out the window on road trips :D
2)i would like to be buried face down with my but in the air, just so everyone who has done be wrong can kiss it. although when i was in high school. i worked at a graveyard and found that they wouldn't do that even if i stated it. i never got a real reason as too why, oh and i would like to have a big tombstone too like $30,000-40,000 one and i feel there would be no point if i was just ashes so that's why it will be burial for me!
2.5) whatever organs that can be donated be removed thought i would add this too seeing as am died i maybe able to save a life or 2 i think that's worth it!
It may be hard to admit, but the dead are dead. Nothing you can do will please them. Ashes don't know if their in a marble urn or an old starbucks cup. The time to treat people right is when their alive. A ham sandwhich, a soda and a joke now can mean more to your loved ones than a 10,000$ coffin after their dead. Which brings to mind one more thing. If your still lucky enough to be able to do it, call your mother. Yeah, right now.
I would have liked to vote burial, but didn't because burial customs in the US are sort of ridiculous. Funerals run thousands of dollars, and your body isn't just buried, it's embalmed, touched up, sealed in an airtight metal box full of fancy pillows, then encased in fucking cement, and then buried. That's some serious bullshit. Give my organic material and potential energy back to the environment -- just wrap me in a sheet and bury me about a foot down in a forest somewhere. If anyone wants organs beforehand, have at it.
I have been to many wakes (Italian Catholic family), and they are fucking weird. No wake.
On March 23 2012 00:21 Mazaire wrote: Cremation, i am not keen to become a zombie at any stage.
My thoughts exactly, but on the more serious note.
Hopefully by the time i am much older space travel will be cheap so i want my body(or ashes) to be ejected into the sun. That would literally be my "dream" wish when i die. To be thrown into a huge ball of hydrogen gas.
"I would request that my body in death be buried not cremated, so that the energy content contained within it gets returned to the earth, so that flora and fauna can dine upon it, just as I have dined upon flora and fauna during my lifetime."
Cremation would be my choice. It may add to pollution but do you really think we have enough space on this planet for millions of bodies to be buried over time?
My great-granddad I know for a fact, was both cremated and buried. Pretty special. He passed away in China, but because essentially my entire family(aunts, uncles, everything) lives in Vancouver, he was cremated, then shipped to Canada, then buried. Then every year we get to pay our respects to him.
On March 23 2012 02:46 Caloooomi wrote: rip out my organs then chuck me in a ditch :3
Pretty much. The body is basically a vehicle for the mind, once the mind goes then anyone is welcome to any spare parts they can use and then scrap the rest.
Fuck all that shit, shoot me into space in one piece. On the off chance some extra-terrestrial race sees me flying around and gets a kick out of it, that'd be pretty cool. Or just bury me in the ground, all energy is borrowed; you have to give it back.
Why isn't mummification an option? I was totally for that.
On March 23 2012 04:08 TheMooseHeed wrote: I plan on living forever
I support this attitude. In some article their was a guy stating that since roughly 8% of the people that have been born never died, we can never be sure.
On March 23 2012 01:46 RelZo wrote: Neither. Freeze my body in a way that my cells aren't damaged and resurrect me when it becomes possible in a few hundred years.
Having been a pallbearer at a funeral, I really want to be cremated. I don't want 8 people to have to carry me in a heavy casket that costs too much.
I also had a strange experience at the viewing of my Grandfather's body. We were pretty much having a fun and dandy family get together with dead Grandfather in the room laying in a casket, and it was my first funeral so it was a little weird, but it was fine. What was totally weird was when my Grandfather's brother picked up the dead body and gave him a hug and a kiss on the cheek.
NOPE. Cremate me, I don't want people picking up my dead body and hugging me, even if they loved me a lot.
-everything my body is goes with me and no one else unless family or close friend or smthn, soz pure altruism is for dumbs. eugenics couldnt have produced a better individual so can't let strangers in on my secrets ;D -Being released into the air somewhere would be pretty sweet, being buried in the ground sounds dumb and boring -BURN AWAY TO NOTHING! I figure this would be a greater cartharsis for family members to understand that im gone instead of always coming to the cemetary and QQ'ing about it
On March 23 2012 04:22 The KY wrote: Get a taxidermist to stuff me like an animal, in a terrifying pose, then stick it in the living room of one of my children.
Better yet, keep it in your wifes home at the dinner table. Then if she ever gets a new boyfriend they will have to sit across from your corpse while they eat, wont that be awkward.
Whatever my closest loved ones want. Whether if it helps them to have me as ashes in an Urn that's nearby or as a corpse in a box in the ground I really don't care because I would want them to be as happy as possible.
However, if it were just up to me then I would prefer to just be inexpensively disposed of like in way of a sky burial or cremation and thrown in the ocean, no reason to spend a shit ton of money on crap people will only be able to see for a day or two (casket and all that jazz).
If the technology exists by the time I'm dead, I want them to remove my brain and transfer as many of my thoughts and memories as possible. Then put it in an AI so there's a robot me. And then put my brain back in, I want that shit back.
If not, I want a traditional funeral, but first build a brace that could animate me, so I could stumble around like a zombie and people will think I've come back from the dead.
cremation. My mom always said once she dies she'll want cremation and her ashes thrown over somewhere beautiful in Europe, since we traveled there a lot and she loves in. I'll probably do it in England or Germany, she loved those countries the most. in a river or something. or the backyard of our Tahoe home.
This is totally weird. We're all talking about our deaths casually
Anyway, I'd want to be in one of those "cryo stasis" thingamajiggers so I could come back to life in the very far future and tell those people what life was back then (Of course, I'd change historical facts around just to troll everyone... and to convince people that I was some sort of emperor :D)
On March 23 2012 05:06 BAHRAM wrote: This is totally weird. We're all talking about our deaths casually
But isn't that part of the point? You should be able to casually talk about your own mortality. The way a lot of people deal with death is the ontological equivalent of LALALALALAICANTHEARYOULALALALA, and it should be something that you learn to deal with by the time you're an adult, as opposed to something you learn to not think about. What's weird is that we load corpses up with formaldehyde and cosmetic paint, glue their eyes shut so they look asleep, and stuff them into suits.
i hope science gets so far that i dont have to chose either one :D otherwise burning ofc. but i dont know how my relatives think about it its pretty much their decision because i dont give a fk
After they're finished extracting any organs they can get out of me that might hopefully save another person's life (I'm on the organ donor register), I don't give a shit. I'll be dead, so they can do whatever.
Burn me. Burying dead bodies doesn't help anything, and usually stuffed with preservative chemicals. Ick. Don't exactly want to look fabulous when I'm already dead.
Everyone should watch this video. Video Skip to 1:15 if you're hard on time.
I thought I would always want to be cremated until I watched this video. Give it a go! It's very scientific and non-spiritual by the way. Oh, and my answer is to be buried.
I would undoubtly have every part of my body donated to science, then for whats unusable to do whatever they please.
Why should i let tradition go before progress or saving lifes. My family should be thankful that my body does something that directly will benefit humanity for ages to come after my death instead of going into the earth or worse, being burned.
I have never understood the "honoring the dead" deal, by burying them, since the greatest thing we should strife for in society is to make it better, and if that can happen after ones death, then that should be ones ultimate goal
I can understand the desire some people have with living forever, being frozen, shot into space etc. But i do not support anything but the live forever idea. I don't think selfish needs to get treated by the world in a spesific way after you are dead has any meaning. You are dead, you have done your active part, and i consider it the ultimate egoistical descision too not let humanity expand by not donating your body.
In case of religion it is a win-win situation too. If there is no god, then it wouldn't matter no matter how you are treated after death. If there is a god and he is as loving and just as the stories tell. the ultimate way too salvation would be too be a good person, even after death. If he is a vengeful and rule strict god, who put more emphasis on incomprohensible rituals than the simple notion of kindness. Then, well. Fuck him!
I think there should be an option in the OP for "neither of the two" though :D :D
I want my corpse to be hung from a tree in a kindergarten playground. The kids can watch the birds peck at my flesh while they munch on their vegemite sandwiches.
I'd say burial, but I'd hate to be dead, and still take up space (cemetery lot). Since cemetery's aren't going anywhere, I figure I'll be buried, I thought I wanted to be cremated to save space, but giving myself back to the Earth seems more appropriate and useful, after all I've taken from her.
On March 23 2012 08:18 prOxi.swAMi wrote: I want my corpse to be hung from a tree in a kindergarten playground. The kids can watch the birds peck at my flesh while they munch on their vegemite sandwiches.
Haha, they'd be more disgusted by the vegemite than the birds and body.
On March 23 2012 08:18 prOxi.swAMi wrote: I want my corpse to be hung from a tree in a kindergarten playground. The kids can watch the birds peck at my flesh while they munch on their vegemite sandwiches.
Haha, they'd be more disgusted by the vegemite than the birds and body.
Cremation. It's not just how you would be able to save space but, your family can mourn for you in the comforts of their own home. But, it would just be scarier for the kids thinking that their father's or grandfather's ghost can easily just creep them out.
There should really be a voting option for "Other" since a lot of people talk about other things anyway.
On topic, I'd prefer a viking burial at sea: Put the body (fully armored) on a ship with all kinds of war-loot, set the lot on fire and let it drift away.
I would request that my body, in death, be buried, not cremated, so that the energy content contained within it gets retuned to the earth, so that flora and fauna can dine upon it, just as I have dined upon flora and fauna throughout my life. -Neil degrasse Tyson
I was all for cremation, till I heard this guys words
I think people should donate their organs and then be cremated, that way people can have the chance to further their lives, along with cremation not taking up space.
On March 24 2012 03:44 Talho wrote: I would request that my body, in death, be buried, not cremated, so that the energy content contained within it gets retuned to the earth, so that flora and fauna can dine upon it, just as I have dined upon flora and fauna throughout my life. -Neil degrasse Tyson
I was all for cremation, till I heard this guys words
unless ur being buried in a random forest or something, i dont see how that happens. most people get buried in a cemetery, which is pretty much a waste of space imo
I will be cremated and leave behind a list of places for my ashes to be scattered. On top of my mortal foes graves, on top of Mt. Everest, the moon/mars/what ever planet we are planning to visit next.
On March 24 2012 03:44 Talho wrote: I would request that my body, in death, be buried, not cremated, so that the energy content contained within it gets retuned to the earth, so that flora and fauna can dine upon it, just as I have dined upon flora and fauna throughout my life. -Neil degrasse Tyson
I was all for cremation, till I heard this guys words
unless ur being buried in a random forest or something, i dont see how that happens. most people get buried in a cemetery, which is pretty much a waste of space imo
I agree with this. Cemeteries are retarded, The earth there might be pretty good but if it's just going to be used as a body dump over and over it wont help any ecosystems, IMO fly my body over the wilderness and push me off the plane.
On March 24 2012 04:33 dUTtrOACh wrote: Good to see so many of you are having your remains turned to ashes. That should leave more space for my pyramid. I plan on being mummified.
Winning response.
While I do think burning bodies is useless and bad for the environment it does save alot of space, no more marble orchards
I don't really care. Do something useful with the parts that are in good enough condition or whatever, dispose of the useless parts in the least troublesome way.
On March 24 2012 03:44 Talho wrote: I would request that my body, in death, be buried, not cremated, so that the energy content contained within it gets retuned to the earth, so that flora and fauna can dine upon it, just as I have dined upon flora and fauna throughout my life. -Neil degrasse Tyson
I was all for cremation, till I heard this guys words
unless ur being buried in a random forest or something, i dont see how that happens. most people get buried in a cemetery, which is pretty much a waste of space imo
I agree with this. Cemeteries are retarded, The earth there might be pretty good but if it's just going to be used as a body dump over and over it wont help any ecosystems, IMO fly my body over the wilderness and push me off the plane.
On March 24 2012 04:33 dUTtrOACh wrote: Good to see so many of you are having your remains turned to ashes. That should leave more space for my pyramid. I plan on being mummified.
Winning response.
While I do think burning bodies is useless and bad for the environment it does save alot of space, no more marble orchards
Or bodies could be buried in a forrest or a big field, with various plant species to feed and grow from the remains, thereby changing our dead husks into something beautiful. You could have these as graveyards without markers, or small markers showing where each person was buried.
Personally I would enjoy being buried in a place like that after my organs have been given to people in need, thereby granting me a sort of second life ( as well as a chance to zombify and take over the host body, MUHAHAHAHAHA ).
I'd like to be cremated and my dust spilled but unfortunately that's illegal here. I can be cremated but my dust can't be spilled (healthcare reasons).
On March 24 2012 12:13 Nightfall.589 wrote: Being dead, I'm not going to raise objections to having my body being dumped into the nearest roadside ditch. Not my problem, anymore.
I want to be cremated. I don't want to be wasting any space or resouces that the living could use. I'd rather a cemetary be used for more productive reasons, not as a home for the dead.
Cremation. I like the idea of having people go out to a nice place in the mountains or ocean and spread my ashes so they can remember that instead of taking up space in a cemetary no one will ever go to.
On March 24 2012 12:36 micronesia wrote: I want to be like Clyde Tombaugh and have my body launched into space! Maybe it can crash land on something cool.
Lol, ok once I'm cremated, I want this to happen too
Cemetarys are perfectly good sections of land being wasted. Land is the one resourse that is definatly finite and we are not gonna get any more of. I see burial as an inefficient waste of space. Cremation is the more logical choice.
That said, I'll be dead so IDC anymore what happens to my body
I would seriously love to be buried under the ground with no coffin. To me, its the best of both worlds. I help the environment as burials would do, and it wouldn't cost as much as a burial either
Cremation, so that afterwards my ashes can be dumped on a windy day. I want the wind to carry parts of me to wherever it takes me. I don't want to just lay in one area.
On March 24 2012 14:24 Shock710 wrote: Hmm...cremation less space, but no chance of being brought back to life by some awesome future science...hmm...tho cremation grantees i wont be zombie
Hahaha
Even if that were possible, there would be no people brought back to life unless they were incredibly rich or huge contributors to mankind
On March 24 2012 14:24 Shock710 wrote: Hmm...cremation less space, but no chance of being brought back to life by some awesome future science...hmm...tho cremation grantees i wont be zombie
Hahaha
Even if that were possible, there would be no people brought back to life unless they were incredibly rich or huge contributors to mankind
We're part of teamliquid, we're more important than anything else =P
Buried, then have my grave site recycled after a decade or so to save space. Sif waste all that nice chemical energy content by burning it. I would make good fertiliser, burning the body is just selfish, should return all that energy content back to the earth as efficiently as possible.
The economical value that are lost due to burial are far greater. You could easily give something back to the planet using far less than that. Many countries in asia is getting harder and more expensive to buy land for burial, only the rich could afford.
Unless you own a private land and plan to recycle it later, I don't think you'd bring benfit to the earth itself.
I don't understand cryogenics foundations. They simply don't make sense to me. What we should be focusing on is ensuring that our bodies last longer. We've already expanded our healthy lifespan something like 50 years longer than it normally would be. Who says we can't extend that longer?
I don't understand cryogenics foundations. They simply don't make sense to me. What we should be focusing on is ensuring that our bodies last longer. We've already expanded our healthy lifespan something like 50 years longer than it normally would be. Who says we can't extend that longer?
Well it was mostly a joke, but assuming cryonics become feasible it would still be a groundbreaking technology to realize. The only reason our lifespans have increased "50 years" over the last two centuries or so is because our average lifespans have increased, not our maximum lifespan. For example, the person with the longest accurately recorded lifespan in history, Jeanne Calment, lived to be 122 and was born in 1875 and died in 1997. This represents the human maximum lifespan, our natural limit (That we know of). And yet even with all the technological and medical advancement we've achieved since 1875 the average person doesn't even come close to living that long. The odds of living to 115 or older are one in billions, and there are only hundreds of people on the planet that are older than 110. It's projected that by the year 2300, barring major scientific advances, lifespans for the people in the developed world would still only be 106 (77-81~ now).* This shows the need for major breakthroughs.
Case in point, we've extended our average lifespand quite a bit for our whole species due to advances in medical care, but we've done virtually nothing to extend our maximum lifespands, as living to extreme old age is still extremely rare. As far as I know we still have a long, long way to go to extending the average Joe's lifespan to 150. There are a lot of people who are very optimistic such as Aubrey De Grey and Ray Kurzweil, bit I think their opitmism should be taken with a grain of salt, as there are an equal number of biologists who aren't as optimistic as they. The thing is we just don't know how long it will take to crack aging and start actually upping the maximum for the average person. Thus, people like Alcore come along and say "Well hey, here's an offer. Whether it's 100 or 200 years in the future or 500 that we solve aging, if you die before we do solve it, we'll give you a shot at being reanimated in the future when we have". Alcor exists NOW, and is the only (slim) shot that currently exists for achieving superhuman lifespans. So that's why there's a market for it.
TL:DR, Aging is complicated as hell, the odds of major longevity breakthrough for the average joe in the next 50 years is slim, and even if we do it will probably be prohibitively expensive at first, so that's why there's Cryonics to give the little guy a chance.
Also, here's a simplified chart of human aging to give you an idea of how complicated it is:
I don't know the if extending average maximum life span will be great idea. Most elderly are heavily relying on productive citizens, some country already start to experience aging populations, where the ratio of elderly increasing, resulting in heavier burden on younger generation.
As you said with burial there is a sort of obligation to go and visit the grave, or at least that's what I've seen a family I know that go to mourn at a grave multiple times a week. I have been brought up with the idea that cremation is the best way and at first I wasn't too sure, but after seeing a family member cremated, and another family having the body buried. I feel that cremation is by far the best way to go from an emotional viewpoint.
In the words of my recently deceased Grandfather, "Shove a bone up my ass and let the dogs drag me home."
I have no personal preference. I like to think that whoever is taking care of my whole being dead situation will do what is best for my loved ones, financially and emotionally.
I'd prefer my organs salvaged/body donated to science/medschools (let the kids have fun traipsing around my innards :D ) or something along those lines. I'd like my corpse to be as useful to anyone as possible, it's not like I'm gonna use it.
Personally, id rather be buried rather then cremated. Personally i see cremation as a waste of resources. I've eaten animals and plants, its only fair they get some return on their investment .
I will be preserved in a glorious suit of armor in a temple built upon the backs of convicts awaiting the day when I shall be called upon to do battle against the forces of good!
But if I don't get the above, cremation is fine too.
Donate my body to science (in other words, to universities so that med students can learn), then burn whatever's left. Whatever stuff would go back to nature if my body is buried doesn't even BEGIN to compensate for the damage I've done this lifetime.
Oh, and throw the ashes from the Corcovado into the city of Rio. That way I'll never leave my beloved city.
I honestly dont care. I rather cherish every moment of my life now. Thinking about death is like thinking about losing a championship Sc match IMO. Bon Jovi said it best... ITS MY LIFE AND I AINT GOIN LIVE FOREVER!
So enjoy it while you can and be happy as much as possible.
On April 30 2012 20:45 Silentness wrote: I honestly dont care. I rather cherish every moment of my life now. Thinking about death is like thinking about losing a championship Sc match IMO. Bon Jovi said it best... ITS MY LIFE AND I AINT GOIN LIVE FOREVER!
So enjoy it while you can and be happy as much as possible.
Thinking about death doesn't mean you will think about how "death" feels. Death is there and it is a reality. You just think about what will happen to your body after it's done. Nothing should make you feel bad about it.
On April 30 2012 20:45 Silentness wrote: I honestly dont care. I rather cherish every moment of my life now. Thinking about death is like thinking about losing a championship Sc match IMO. Bon Jovi said it best... ITS MY LIFE AND I AINT GOIN LIVE FOREVER!
So enjoy it while you can and be happy as much as possible.
Thinking about death doesn't mean you will think about how "death" feels. Death is there and it is a reality. You just think about what will happen to your body after it's done. Nothing should make you feel bad about it.
To quote Cicero, "that to philosophize is nothing but to prepare one's self to die."
Thinking about death isn't depressing if you go about it the right way, it's actually liberating. ^_^
Take the useful organs then shoot me out in space, hopefully a medivac can pick me up and heal me.... Or on the serious note, maybe some aliens will find my rocket of whatever and they have the tech to resurrect me