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On April 25 2011 07:19 BobbyBrown wrote: why the heck does mvp think that terran is the worst race atm although they are performing that well on korean ladder these days?!
MVP said Terran is the weakest on the very large GSL maps.
There is only one very large GSL map in ladder.
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Wait...is that real Luxury?
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This isn't an analysis this is a list of facts, which are basically meaningless.
If the top 10 has 9 terrans, that's all that means. It doesn't speak to the relative balance of the game unless you can somehow link the two through logic, ie they are all using 5 racks reaper.
So this thread doesn't speak to balance, all it does is basically list sc2 ranks in a paragraph.
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On April 25 2011 08:22 mTw|NarutO wrote: MC said in Coppenhagen that Europe Terrans are superior to Korean Terrans.
Incorrect. You are referring to this video:
+ Show Spoiler +
Interviewer questions MC "What do you think of the level of European SC2 players?"
MC says: The terrans are strong, but the Protosses are a bit lacking in PvP, and there are also a lot of good zergs, so it'll be harder to beat them in the future.
Translator: "The European Terrans are pretty strong... compared to the Koreans, but he thinks the European Protoss are a lot like PvP( T/N? Hard to hear him) and the Zergs are getting better so he thinks it's going to hard in the near future to win other tournaments in Europe."
No where once does MC say "Korea" or "Korean" when he praises European SC2 players. Keep in mind he didn't drop a single game to a Terran in Copenhagen so I guess it was just lost in translation.
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Isn't analysis prohibited on this site? We can't infer that T is OP by this or we get banned. I think it is silly that balance discussions are so taboo but it is perfectly fine to conclude that all Z players are just plain worse at the game than T or P players (also without citing evidence). I guess I'm asking why these stats are NOT evidence of a disparity (not the scary word 1MB4L4NCE) between the races. There must be some reason for the discrepancy in the statistics... can anyone offer a PC answer that doesn't get us banned?
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I realized halfway through that its kind of hard to do meaningful analysis on just one set of data, aside from just turning percentages into imba cries.
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I'm surprised there's only one random in there. I saw plenty of randoms on the frontpage of SC2ranks from KR for a while. I guess their MMRs just weren't high enough or they missed out on promotion before it closed.
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On April 25 2011 09:22 novabossa wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 07:03 andrewwiggin wrote: As of right now..
There is one player at an 80% fricken win rate.
27 Terran Luxury Wins 204 Losses50 Winrate 80.31%
Someone.. please explain. HOW!!!! =/ Dude SeleCT has almost a 90% win rate: http://sc2ranks.com/us/789884/dSeleCTSome people are just that good.
90% on NA. I bet Select will have 50% win ratio on KR.
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this just in, ladder maps =/= tournament maps.
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How bout some analysis on why Zerg is doing so terrible ???
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On April 25 2011 13:13 sickoota wrote: I realized halfway through that its kind of hard to do meaningful analysis on just one set of data, aside from just turning percentages into imba cries.
I think the word you were looking for was statistics, not analysis.
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On April 25 2011 15:06 DarKcS wrote: How bout some analysis on why Zerg is doing so terrible ??? Master league contains only 24.6% Zerg players. Its a higher % than that in GM, and that % or lower in all other leagues, so there are way fewer Zergs within the entire scale of SC2.
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On April 25 2011 06:46 Esel wrote: big respekt to this one random player , <3 to you
Hell, yeah. I'm a random player myself so major respects from myself
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On April 25 2011 10:20 Awesomeness wrote: Wait...is that real Luxury?
I'm waiting for someone to ask/answer the same thing. =P
Although it most likely isn't, but I always get excited when I see a famous BW ID on the ladder. -_-
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On April 25 2011 14:59 bearhug wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 09:22 novabossa wrote:On April 25 2011 07:03 andrewwiggin wrote: As of right now..
There is one player at an 80% fricken win rate.
27 Terran Luxury Wins 204 Losses50 Winrate 80.31%
Someone.. please explain. HOW!!!! =/ Dude SeleCT has almost a 90% win rate: http://sc2ranks.com/us/789884/dSeleCTSome people are just that good. 90% on NA. I bet Select will have 50% win ratio on KR.
His European account is 23-3; 88.46%
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On April 25 2011 16:02 SniXSniPe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 14:59 bearhug wrote:On April 25 2011 09:22 novabossa wrote:On April 25 2011 07:03 andrewwiggin wrote: As of right now..
There is one player at an 80% fricken win rate.
27 Terran Luxury Wins 204 Losses50 Winrate 80.31%
Someone.. please explain. HOW!!!! =/ Dude SeleCT has almost a 90% win rate: http://sc2ranks.com/us/789884/dSeleCTSome people are just that good. 90% on NA. I bet Select will have 50% win ratio on KR. His European account is 23-3; 88.46% european and NA aren't nearly close to KR
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On April 25 2011 08:55 Jambi wrote: Why do so many GM terrans have ridiculously high ratios?
becouse terran is the most consistant race atm imo, its easier to defend "gay shit" most rushes u defend with bunkers, u do not die to dts when u are not prepared, becouse u always are in some way, and terran vs terran actually involves skill so if u are the better player u win, not like pvp when there is build order luck involved, thats why terran is doing so well on the ladder but that doesnt really apply to anything else than laddder
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you're just making up stuff that can't be proven
in any case, ladder maps still probably favoring terran is the main reason
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one thing that should be pointed out is that fewer people play zerg in general which is probably why there are fewer of them in the top 200 but the fact that there are none in the top 10 also says zerg is weak on the ladder -_-
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On April 25 2011 09:06 FrankWalls wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2011 08:22 mTw|NarutO wrote: MC said in Coppenhagen that Europe Terrans are superior to Korean Terrans. + Show Spoiler +well he did just lose to one in tsl so that might have had an effect on his opinion
+ Show Spoiler + and he also just lost to Polt, so ?
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