Earlier in the thread it was posted that Dimaga has an 84% win ratio on EU and 56% on korea. He probably wouldn't be at 50% but he'd be nowhere near 90%.
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Drium
United States888 Posts
Earlier in the thread it was posted that Dimaga has an 84% win ratio on EU and 56% on korea. He probably wouldn't be at 50% but he'd be nowhere near 90%. | ||
dc302
Australia576 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
Protoss have 12 people with greater than 60% win/loss Zerg have 10 people with greater than 60% win/loss (removed the people with less than 50 wins) 16 out of 20 people in the top 20 are Terran, "Terran is the weakest race", cognitive dissonance much ? | ||
cozzE
Australia357 Posts
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Leavzou
France156 Posts
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Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On April 25 2011 16:42 cozzE wrote: I love how each race picks out the statistics that's most convenient to them. Great comedy right there. Above is a great example of this. Is there any static you can pull that is convenient to Terran lol? | ||
Leavzou
France156 Posts
On April 25 2011 16:45 Dommk wrote: Is there any static you can pull that is convenient to a race other than Terran lol? Well, almost all the statistics seems convenient for zergs... | ||
tdt
United States3179 Posts
On April 25 2011 07:23 HappyCakes wrote: Cause playing in tournaments and on ladder is the same thing amirite? Seems to parallel tournaments too. Have a look ~ 40-45% in all GSLs is Terran and it's least played race among GM according to SC2ranks with Toss being first, then Zerg, then Terran. Normal distribution would have ~12P, 11Z, 9T of 32 not 10P, 8Z, 14T this GSL or 9P 8Z and 15T like last GSL. Almost every tournament Terran has higher disproportionate representation than the other two race despite being least played. | ||
Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On April 25 2011 16:47 Leavzou wrote: Well, almost all the statistics seems convenient for zergs... Screwed up the wording, meant to say that is "is convenient to Terran" | ||
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On April 25 2011 16:48 tdt wrote: Seems to parallel tournaments too. Have a look ~ 40-45% in all GSLs is Terran and it's least played race among GM according to SC2ranks with Toss being first, then Zerg, then Terran. Normal distribution would have ~12P, 11Z, 9T of 32 not 10P, 8Z, 14T. Almost every tournament Terran has higher disproportionate representation than the other two race despite being least played. why would you compare across all GSLs when we're talking about current balance | ||
5unrise
New Zealand646 Posts
On April 25 2011 06:37 GhostKorean wrote: Wasn't there some explanation for Terrans doing well on the ladder that went something like Terrans focus on early game aggression and therefore mass more games in the same amount of time than their zerg and terran counterparts so their ranks increase the most quickly? Does this still hold true, especially with MVP claiming Terran is currently "the weakest race" Maybe you are right. It is possible to check this, just by looking at the number of games Terrans in the top 10 played compared to zergs. *but after checking them, I don't see a significant disparity. In fact Zergs tends to play a little more... so I think your theory isn't the explanation, but good theory nevertheless | ||
tdt
United States3179 Posts
On April 25 2011 16:51 Itsmedudeman wrote: why would you compare across all GSLs when we're talking about current balance I didn't - those were numbers from this GSL, while Terran dominates all in numbers represented. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_LG_Cinema_3D_Global_StarCraft_II_League_May/Code_S | ||
Dommk
Australia4865 Posts
On April 25 2011 16:53 5unrise wrote: Maybe you are right. It is possible to check this, just by looking at the number of games Terrans in the top 10 played compared to zergs. *but after checking them, I don't see a significant disparity. In fact Zergs tends to play a little more... so I think your theory isn't the explanation, but good theory nevertheless Don't think that is true. Check out the number of games played when you rank the ladder by race. On average the top Zergs have played more games 0o Amount of games played for Protoss is similar to Terran I don't think you can find anything that speaks poorly of Terran from the Korean GrandMaster Ladder considering 50%~ of the top 100 consists of Terran | ||
Venomous Drone
48 Posts
Random - 1 Player in Grandmaser. 0.5% of the total Fuck yeah! | ||
tdt
United States3179 Posts
On April 25 2011 11:08 PHC wrote: Incorrect. You are referring to this video: + Show Spoiler + Interviewer questions MC "What do you think of the level of European SC2 players?" MC says: The terrans are strong, but the Protosses are a bit lacking in PvP, and there are also a lot of good zergs, so it'll be harder to beat them in the future. Translator: "The European Terrans are pretty strong... compared to the Koreans, but he thinks the European Protoss are a lot like PvP( T/N? Hard to hear him) and the Zergs are getting better so he thinks it's going to hard in the near future to win other tournaments in Europe." No where once does MC say "Korea" or "Korean" when he praises European SC2 players. Keep in mind he didn't drop a single game to a Terran in Copenhagen so I guess it was just lost in translation. LOL Everyone is lacking in PvP vs you MC. I'd put Nani or Ra against any Korean Toss though. Anyway that's cool it seems MC does really respect foreigners | ||
tdt
United States3179 Posts
On April 25 2011 16:24 rickybobby wrote: one thing that should be pointed out is that fewer people play zerg in general which is probably why there are fewer of them in the top 200 but the fact that there are none in the top 10 also says zerg is weak on the ladder -_- Thats not true. Noobs don't play Zerg much but at the top it's 2nd most race played. | ||
Atlasy
Hungary229 Posts
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Pestilence
Belgium41 Posts
And we cannot judge player skill from their ladder record. To really know which player is better of the 2, you should organize a bo21, with a 2h pause after 3 matches, and after the 7nth match a 24h pause. Because there are so many T player at the top doesn't mean that T is OP or something. Its just that offensive timings are much much easier to find out then defensive timings. Over time, the other races will be masters of defence, and then again, stalement will occur for the terran race. OP should not worry and analyzing the ladder is obselet imo | ||
tdt
United States3179 Posts
On April 25 2011 15:06 DarKcS wrote: How bout some analysis on why Zerg is doing so terrible ??? A moving with muta/ling(s)/roach/hydra etc instead of using best unit in game, infestor. and microing while other races micro the hell out of their units (FF, stim, seige, blink, grav beam, etc etc etc) Over droning at beginning instead of planting a few spines. Terrible scouting. Worst scout in the game. Just my opinion I could be wrong. I have some basis for it though. Last few weeks I've been seeing much different play (and getting owned) and tide is about to change with mass infestor and Spanishwa type builds. But still Zerg need a decent scout. | ||
gulden
Germany205 Posts
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