CBS article regarding Gordon Hayward - Page 3
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J.E.G.
United States389 Posts
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DueSs
United States765 Posts
I tweeted to Mr. Golliver this: "But Mr. Golliver, even when your blog is tongue in cheek--it's TERRIBLY inaccurate. You didn't realize it was a parody" He tweeted back this: "I think we'll agree to disagree on this one but thanks for the feedback." | ||
Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
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Gingerninja
United Kingdom1339 Posts
On September 08 2011 12:08 SenorChang wrote: Please explain it to me, I've heard the term before but not really sure what it means. It means he's telling a joke, and to stop yourself from laughing when telling a joke and to help keep a straight face, it's helpful to place your tongue in your cheek. Hence the story was "tongue in cheek." Except this one wasn't funny.. mostly it was just another example of piss poor researched journalism passed off as an "opinion blog." Journalists who have blogs, should be held accountable for their lack of journalistic standards held within, they are journalists aren't they? | ||
Htw
United States30 Posts
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CatsPajamas
United States337 Posts
Basically the guy takes the situation too seriously. Clearly Gordon is doing PR for us, and clearly his priority is the NBA. Come on. This guy is just looking for press and attention. And also a scapegoat for his frustration with the NBA at the moment. Hell, I hosted a sports talk show for 3 years, so I love my share of sports, but this guys is going a little too far. | ||
J.E.G.
United States389 Posts
On September 08 2011 12:16 Gingerninja wrote: It means he's telling a joke, and to stop yourself from laughing when telling a joke and to help keep a straight face, it's helpful to place your tongue in your cheek. Hence the story was "tongue in cheek." Except this one wasn't funny.. mostly it was just another example of piss poor researched journalism passed off as an "opinion blog." Journalists who have blogs, should be held accountable for their lack of journalistic standards held within, they are journalists aren't they? So Ben Golliver basically just Epic Trolled all of Teamliquid.net? | ||
Ownos
United States2147 Posts
Haters gonna hate. Skaters gonna skate. On September 08 2011 12:16 Htw wrote: Props to Gordon for promoting esports when he undoubtedly knew things like this would happen. Knew? Lots of athletes play video games in their off time. A COD event just happened here in LA that had some NBA players attending. Why is this a big deal? Because some jerk with a blog made a post not unlike those made in IGN's comments section? Who cares. | ||
R0YAL
United States1768 Posts
On September 08 2011 12:04 Chill wrote: This is the kind of thing where you wish you could have a man-to-man talk with the author... Let's send incontrol to interview this guy in person. | ||
Demonace34
United States2493 Posts
On September 08 2011 12:17 J.E.G. wrote: So Ben Golliver basically just Epic Trolled all of Teamliquid.net? Yeah, but there isn't a video that is over the top and it is all in writing so it looks like another nerd bashing blog (which it is) and he is trying to cover his ass by saying it was tongue in cheek. The funny thing about tongue in cheek is that you can actually see someone doing that in person, through text it just looks like he is being an asshole. | ||
Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
On September 08 2011 12:20 Demonace34 wrote: Yeah, but there isn't a video that is over the top and it is all in writing so it looks like another nerd bashing blog (which it is) and he is trying to cover his ass by saying it was tongue in cheek. The funny thing about tongue in cheek is that you can actually see someone doing that in person, through text it just looks like he is being an asshole. Well he keeps replying with the "tongue in cheek" post so it makes him look really stupid. | ||
pbjsandwich
United States443 Posts
EDIT: I don't know why the author wouldn't just go out and say his opinions about the softness of the current state of the NBA than using SC2+gordon hayward as a target for his anger. | ||
LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On September 08 2011 12:14 Demonace34 wrote: Haha, so his blog is all tongue in cheek according to his twitter. For some reason it just doesn't look that way and I doubt he even knows what TL or MLG or GSL is in the first place. Tbh, he's just playing the easy card, like when someone on an internet forum says something ridiculously stupid and when he realizes it, his excuse is "lol you guys got trolled" | ||
Roxy
Canada753 Posts
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DoX.)
Singapore6164 Posts
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Duka08
3391 Posts
Firstly, trying to reach out to this guy on ANY level to change his mind isn't even worth fathoming in my opinion. Yes there are a few notorious figureheads of the community who tried to explain "our" side, in both an aggressive or composed manner, in previous cases. However, at least the receiving end of the criticism until now have been journalists in the GAMING industry, where there is maybe a shred of hope of breaching their ignorant bubble. In this case, it's not even worth a passing thought. It won't happen, and the backlash will simply be laughed upon. Sadly. Second, if you do want to at least express that the article is extremely subjective AND contains quite a lot of misinformation, contact the editor not the author. That's the only possible way anything will be done, and that's likely just removal. Again this is simply my own thoughts.... Those being said, stepping away from the logic and being more of a StarCraft community member and fan: It's so strange to see eSports, namely SC2, getting so much random negative attention. I suppose there are myriad positive articles and blogs boasting numbers that are hard to shake a stick at, but obviously "the vocal minority" always wins out (a fact this community is probably well acquainted with lol). I guess for the most part they ARE "blogs", so it's pretty much just PURE opinion that is easier to sneak past editorial phases and into the public eye. Also, it's pretty obvious a few of them have simply been shock articles, meant to garner attention of any type, either for the author themselves or the outlet as a whole. Finally, personally, I feel like it's impossible to take situations like this seriously. I know the whole "one troll at a time" slogan and campaign and what not comes up, but... read the fucking article. Listen to the way he writes and how it reflects negatively on his OWN sport and image. It's so obvious he didn't give more than 2 minutes of thought to the idea of "lol NBA player plays video games in FREE TIME OH MY GOOOOOOOOD". He talks down to the NBA, to Hayward, and to professional gaming. It's purely subjective nonsense; no different than a conversation you'd overhear in a bar from someone a few pints deep. Now, you might still feel compelled to correct the guy (or hit him in the head), but be honest, if you had an option, would you aggressively try to correct the gentleman despite his obvious ignorance, or would you turn to his friend and calmly explain why it's all bullshit? Personally, I take the latter. Or neither. Ignorance is not worth all the attention the community has given it lately. We need more threads similar to this one with summaries of all the positive articles and outlooks that eSports has been receiving during its rise in the West over the past year or two. Edit: oh and, tongue-in-cheek? Yeah right, easy cover LOL. More like stick-in-ass Edit2: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvv and don't have an awful mindset like this vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv | ||
deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
Will that cause him to change his opinion or portray e-sports in a positive light? No. Will it cause him to think twice before insulting gaming on the fucking internet? Hell yes. | ||
tmzu
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Engore
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