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tehboredone
15 Posts
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I talked to all my wings, apparently everyone was going to a house party. I was dreading tonight because I was by myself. After I trained my friend at SD, I was there there and I was hungry. I can already feel that solo feeling when I was looking for a place to eat. This was 7 oclock. I took a nap in my car for a while. I texted some of the girls I number closed. They were all out and about in the block party in downtown. The last set was the one I hooked and pulled an SNL. It was a 3 set. I opened one that looks like shes Russian but it turns out shes Brazilian. She has a bar waitress dress and I opened by asking what she was supposed to look. I was surprised she was so white for a Brazilian. I noticed she had a vampire bit, and I was like wow that is so real. At first I thought she had a drug addiction and that she had injection holes on her neck. She tells me that’s a vampire bite. I am like OH that explains why you are so white for a Brazilian, you got bit by a vampire. I tell her, “do you know what it is about Brazilian girls?” She’s like what. She expects something sexual I bet, but I complement and say that a lot of Brazilians are very smart. I met one on an airplane that was a doctor. Her other two friends one was Mexican the other was Filipino. The Mexican was wild dancing with all the guys and being freaky, the Filipino girl was just standing there. She tells me to come with her and I follow. Basically we got to the outside dance area and started dancing. We kissed and she was really into kissing. As we are dancing, I put my hand on her ass but she was really against it. She wasn’t mad but kept talking to me like a teacher and be like no hands on the ass. I respect that but sometimes I forget and I put it back on there but she knew it was unintentional. As we were making out, I notice the wedding ring. I am like are you married? Shes like yes. She tells me her husband was never around and that they see each other maybe three times a year. I tell her that my ex gf was far away and I never really got to see her. But after, I never mention her husband again and go with the flow. I noticed that she really loved smelling me, it was that new cologne Aventus that I got. She literally told me it was my smell that she was attracted to me in the first place. I was nice to her friends and they were cool. What was funny was that another pirate dressed guy was getting at it with the Mexican. He was throwing himself at her and she started pushing him away, and eventually she got mad. The Brazilian jumps in to cock block him. I just stood there watching, I wasn’t sure what the fuck I should have done. Should I have gone in? and blow the guy out? I made sure I wasn’t leaning in too much or pulling. Learned from last night. I kinda always backed out of the kiss first, and she was pretty into me. I rarely see girls that invest into me physically that I wasn’t really even chasing. The place closed early. It closed only at 12 am. And the night was still young. I basically brought them to the Burger Lounge. I asked her if she wants to hang out later and she said yes. I am thinking logistically. I tell them I am walking them to my car and that I will drop them off at the Horton where they parked. They fucking walked like 12 blocks on high heels in the cold with me lol. I was wearing short shorts too, whatevers they can suck it up haha. I take them to their parking lot and the entrance says flat 20 fee, I am like fuck, so I manage a uturn inside the little turn in corner lol. She tells me to follow them. I told her to give me her address, she says no. I am like fuck, surely I am going to get lost in the downtown traffic. I am like whatevers, so I park there waiting for them to come out. They saw me, honked and I followed. I drove to near the border where they lived. It was 20 minutes. The house was nice. Her husband must have a decent job. We got in and just chilled. She made us a margarita drink. The 4 of us just talked. The thing with foreign girls is some of the phrases they just don’t get. She talks about how she likes hairless men and keeps tickling me. I say I am not her toy and she gets upset. Shes like “ what do you mean toy? I didn’t say you were my toy.. blah blah”. I am like, that’s not that it means, I am teasing her. I dunno how to fucking reframe a girl whos only been in the US for 3 years. I just apologize lol and then I play safe game. It was light hearted banter and I didn’t do anything risky and waited till the other two went to sleep. One was her roommate and the other one was crashing there I guess. On the couch we talked, and she was lying on top of me. The other two had more of a mini talk while the Brazilian was on me. It was getting late and the other two went up. She asked me if I wanted to stay the night and it was pretty much guaranteed lay. We go up stairs and she has this bed with a net and everything. As soon as I was ready, I jumped into bed. She was still out and about in the bathroom. I am not sure if this was a good idea but it didn’t really matter. She later came to bed and escalated. At this point, I have enough lays that I know how to escalate in bed. She got on top and I got super excited she told me to slow down. I comply for a bit and let her do her teasing bullshit, I was like, I better make a move before its just hours of teasing and nothing. So I let her do her thing for like 10 minutes then I basically grabbed her and flipped her over and got on top and that was all it took. In the morning, it sounded like she didn’t want me to leave. I said I should go multiple times but she kinda locked her legs on top me. I layed there for a bit so she get some comfort out of that. Sucks she was married, she clearly wasn’t happy and I dunno whos fault it is. I know what it feels like to be cheated in long distance. I saw it from the man’s (my) perspective. Now I see it from the woman’s perspective. It was an interesting experience. What I did was probably not right, but I am pretty sure I am not the first guy she’s cheated with, and if it wasn’t me, It would have been some other guy. Some things are bound to not work out. The thing I did right was that, I wasn’t cocky funny. I adapted to the situation. I made friends with the target and they were cool with me. They didn’t cock block me at all. | ||
squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On November 01 2011 15:58 saocyn wrote: as for casanova your pictures are far too photogenic it makes me think you have a routine for this which you do, your poses are the same in everyone generally if you can get to that level of kino of picking her up literally. do you have your wing take the picture or do you have a friend of the girl or a random take the picture? i'm assuming since those pictures are generally the same you have either the girl's friend take it or your wing cause it's pretty consistent mind sharing it? also what camera do you use, cause the one i use just broke and it's pretty bad. my pictures don't come out as great quality as yours or close cause i generally take the picture myself through a phone when i kiss the girl. I am good at taking pictures hehe, its another one of my hobbies. But yeah, either have wing take pictures or have one of the girls friends take pictures. You basically just wait till they are on a high point, or their buying temperature is high, or you you hype it up. My camera can take very quick shots so I basically take like 10 pictures take the best one, and then use Lightroom. Also, I have opened 2000 sets this year! Not hard to find a few that's willing to take pictures. If a girl doesn't wan't to take a picture with you, surely she wont sleep with you haha! The downside is, I look like a dork with a big ass camera in the club loool!! | ||
Protoss_Carrier
414 Posts
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On November 01 2011 15:10 David451 wrote: It doesn't, but neither does the PUA community. You can peacock until feathers come out your ass, you can palm read until your hands bleed, but you'll still be fucking your fist when the night is over. You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. On November 01 2011 15:10 David451 wrote: Want a girlfriend that's better than what you can get right now? There is no shortcut. Work on making grades. Work on your career. Work on your hobbies. Work out. All of those are useless without game. Rich dudes with no game just end up being married for their money to a wife that bangs other dudes behind his nice guy back. | ||
Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On November 02 2011 04:03 Grumbels wrote: You can't argue the merits of PUA, because you can never agree on a definition of it. There's people that are too invested in PUA as a necessary part of their self-image that they will dislike any definition that allows for 'bad apples'. If they exist at all, then they can never be representative of 'game'. I honestly think all the creeps attracted to pick-up artistry are a feature, not a bug. What else can you expect from a field that invents concepts such as the 'neg'? Or that obsesses about ranking women as a way to determine their dating worth? 1. Creepy people exist with or without pickup. The people in pickup are as varied as people outside of pickup. There are plenty of douche bags learning pickup as well as CEOs, Google and Blizzard employees, and decent guys who have everything else in life handled with one exception and just want to interact better with women. 2. "Negs" and "HB#" were written in a book designed to sell for money. Guys have checked out and rated women way before mainstream pickup. If you look at crime stats. After 2005/2006 when PUA became more mainstream, there was no increase in sexual crime rates. And why do you care what the perception of PUA is like? I have gone out and approached 2000 girls this year, I only been called out once and it was by another dude who was also into pickup. I never been called out once by a girl. Most of my blowouts have been soft blowouts. The girl usually gets bored and leaves. How is it different than any other dude in the club? | ||
sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On November 02 2011 04:03 Grumbels wrote: You can't argue the merits of PUA, because you can never agree on a definition of it. There's people that are too invested in PUA as a necessary part of their self-image that they will dislike any definition that allows for 'bad apples'. If they exist at all, then they can never be representative of 'game'. I disagree. I am more than willing to admit that there are plenty of PUAs who are bad apples. The seduction community is no more perfect than any other community in that regard. That doesn't mean that the seduction community is bad, however, no more than the Starcraft community is bad because we have some trolls, noobs, and bad apples here at teamliquid. On November 02 2011 04:03 Grumbels wrote:What else can you expect from a field that invents concepts such as the 'neg'? Or that obsesses about ranking women as a way to determine their dating worth? You fundamentally misunderstand both concepts. | ||
squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
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swarmageddon
19 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:33 squattincassanova wrote: I tried peacocking with a heart shaped key necklace. A girl called it gay. I went home and cried. True story. Why do attractive (and non-attractive) girls gotta make that stupid face? | ||
decafchicken
United States19901 Posts
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squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:09 decafchicken wrote: I'm half tempted to bring a mic out with me one night just because i'm curious how i pick up girls. I literally blacked out drunk and came-to walking home with a girl from the bar with no recollection of how i met her. I was also wearing a teletubby suit with a santa hat and christmas tie. God i love halloween. its called sloppy game.[ | ||
saocyn
United States937 Posts
On November 01 2011 18:17 squattincassanova wrote: I am good at taking pictures hehe, its another one of my hobbies. But yeah, either have wing take pictures or have one of the girls friends take pictures. You basically just wait till they are on a high point, or their buying temperature is high, or you you hype it up. My camera can take very quick shots so I basically take like 10 pictures take the best one, and then use Lightroom. Also, I have opened 2000 sets this year! Not hard to find a few that's willing to take pictures. If a girl doesn't wan't to take a picture with you, surely she wont sleep with you haha! The downside is, I look like a dork with a big ass camera in the club loool!! very nice thank you for sharing. yeah the problem was not actually getting the photo taken, cause i can easily get a photo with a girl kissing me etc. the problem was the quality of the photo lol and you have some great photo skills. what camera do you have specifically? like brand, type, model, price - i'm willing to fork over some big money for a camera with that quality, 100 dollar cameras look like ship compared to what you're posting. i'm also opting to start taking i guess "socially acceptable photos" basically the frame is fun and playful, no more pua pics which generally tend to be makeout photos / preselection. i need more regular ones for facebook. | ||
squattincassanova
United States650 Posts
On November 02 2011 19:38 saocyn wrote: very nice thank you for sharing. yeah the problem was not actually getting the photo taken, cause i can easily get a photo with a girl kissing me etc. the problem was the quality of the photo lol and you have some great photo skills. what camera do you have specifically? like brand, type, model, price - i'm willing to fork over some big money for a camera with that quality, 100 dollar cameras look like ship compared to what you're posting. i'm also opting to start taking i guess "socially acceptable photos" basically the frame is fun and playful, no more pua pics which generally tend to be makeout photos / preselection. i need more regular ones for facebook. My Gear Canon T3i Speedlite 430 ex II 50mm 1.4 aperture prime lens (amazing portrait shots) 18-270 Tamron lens (amazing zoom and great all around general purpose) I basically take pictures and put them on my Facebook for social proof. Its another way to follow up with a girl if phone game is dead you can revive it with Facebook. I keep my pictures pretty clean because it can actually turn off some girls if you over do it. Its also fun to go to photography Meetup groups and take pictures of models for practice The following were taken with the 50mm 1.4 aperture prime lens... it looks sick as hell... | ||
BestZergOnEast
Canada358 Posts
Went to venue. I'm relatively social proofed already on account of having spent years attending this particular night @ this place. Decent crowd, relatively unimpressive men and relatively hot chicks. Showed up alone. At first I wasn't feeling it so I just chain smoked on the patio but then ran into some friends and started talking to women. So I'm inside, watching the dance floor, and there are two 8's dressed in bunny outfits dancing together. I eye fuck both of them fairly hard and go outside. They follow me but I'm a really slow walker and they over take. Naturally I don't follow them - I never follow women - so instead when they turn left I turn right and smoke. At this point I begin to realize I might smell a little bad, lol. Anyway, I make my approach in a hap hazard manner chatting people up. Bunny #1 is being chatted up by some guy so I say something to him after putting my hand on his shoulder, and sort of gently move him away from her. He says no but complies. She practically screams yes at me but then I leave the bar and go home to shower before hitting venue 2. Have been attracting women like crazy but not closing for the life of me. I've decided not to get any #'s unless I k-close. | ||
saocyn
United States937 Posts
darren has a nice one though i've been looking for one similar to his. it's tight around his neck and he looped it in a way that looks cool, i think the key is also black. | ||
Egyptian_Head
South Africa508 Posts
From what I can see the main benefit of this kind of thing is it encourages you to try, which is good. Getting the confidence to approach people is great, if you are having fun doing this that is amazing for you. But if you are just going to be "cocky and funny" (or whatever it is meant to be) that may be great if you are just looking for a lay, but that cannot be the best way to go if you want anything more than just in the now. | ||
vetinari
Australia602 Posts
On November 03 2011 00:44 Egyptian_Head wrote: I have a question. Why not just be yourself? Most people are quiet interesting once you get to know them, that will include most of you. Surely you should learn how to show what makes you interesting and different not just put on an act. The act might be easier but what good is it? You are going to have to stop acting at some point. And yeah being nice is not a personality, that is pretty much suppressing anything that could be called a personality. Just say whatever you want to say and if you click with the girl awesome, if you don't it wasn't going to go anywhere past sex anyway and there are only so many ways to have sex before it gets old. From what I can see the main benefit of this kind of thing is it encourages you to try, which is good. Getting the confidence to approach people is great, if you are having fun doing this that is amazing for you. But if you are just going to be "cocky and funny" (or whatever it is meant to be) that may be great if you are just looking for a lay, but that cannot be the best way to go if you want anything more than just in the now. Because for most people, "just being yourself" is not attractive to women. There are traits that women find attractive, and other traits that women find unattractive. Pick up is a way of displaying the former and minimizing displays of the latter. Its the male equivalent of a girl putting on make up, a push up bra, short skirt and smiling at men. | ||
BestZergOnEast
Canada358 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:28 sunprince wrote: I disagree. I am more than willing to admit that there are plenty of PUAs who are bad apples. The seduction community is no more perfect than any other community in that regard. That doesn't mean that the seduction community is bad, however, no more than the Starcraft community is bad because we have some trolls, noobs, and bad apples here at teamliquid. You fundamentally misunderstand both concepts. *shrug*, that's exactly what I meant. You're just saying: "you are wrong, not going to tell you why" two times. | ||
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