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On February 12 2012 11:11 v3chr0 wrote:I find it hilarious that people are trying to tell other people how to raise their kids based on 1 video of information over 16yrs of his daughters life, and I bet most people here don't even have kids. Everything people are complaining about is explained in the video. It's tough love, all you anti-gun people are just going crazy because the man shoots a gun, get over it, what if he smashed it with a sledgehammer, it's the same shit and people wouldn't be linking it to mental disorders and all of that b.s. Get real, the gun served the same purpose as any other means of destruction. Seriously, get over it. From what he explained in the video, hes actually a pretty damn good parent, who gives her what she wants, and asks for some chores in return. She has already disrespected him on FB before, and said if she did it again, it would be a lot worse than before. Your kid isn't going to disown you over an incident like this, shes going to be thinking a lot about what she did and when the tension boils down, things will most likely get better. The gun, her father smoking a cigarette in a lawn chair, being a 'hick' those are all irrelevant to how you parent your children. I feel like so many people here are overly sensitive, you don't raise your kids by ALWAYS talking to them, at least at first... actions speak louder. It's pretty damn obvious hes showing her how immature she is, by doing the same shit she did, and posting it on FB. He didn't ruin her Life, I bet she'll actually thank him later on for giving her a reality check. I think some of guys need one.
Cant we just remove every post in this thread except this one and call it a day?
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I agree with tough love, more kids these days need it than not, but I gotta say he seems quite childish. Guess that's just my $0.02.
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I love that people who fight constantly against being labeled things like, for instance, nerd or geek, are so quick to call this guy a "stupid hick". "You're wearing a starcraft shirt? You must be a smelly nerd with no life." That's essentially on the same level. I don't think that this guy really did anything awful, it was his own money spent on the laptop, and if I had just spent my time and money to do something for somebody and then found out they did something similar to what his daughter did, I might do the same thing (without the gun lol.) I don't understand why this would offend people so much, the daughter isn't entitled to anything, but clearly she has family that loves her and plenty of opportunity. I think the people who this really bothers have really short-term memory (and can't remember likely how obnoxious they were when they were 15) or are actually still in that angsty whiny phase.
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On February 12 2012 11:08 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 10:57 FeUerFlieGe wrote: and you can't call it wrong because that is HIS daughter and he can raise her how he sees she should be raised. Wow, this is hard to read. So every father should raise his child as he wants, regardless whatever he does and wants?
Yes that is his property and his responsibility not anyone else's. I'm guessing your concerned about child abuse wich of course is a problem, but that usually involves neglect and abuse of parental powers which of course should be addressed. It is apparent however that this is neither so I uphold my earlier statement.
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i done wish i had me a belt buckle, cowboy hat, and gun to shoot stuff. I don't wish i had a facebook. i dont what is funnier...the cowboy dad or the girl telling the world her life story via facebook...no one care how difficult your life is...you are not that important. this post is not that important.
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On February 12 2012 11:48 Starparty wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 11:11 v3chr0 wrote:I find it hilarious that people are trying to tell other people how to raise their kids based on 1 video of information over 16yrs of his daughters life, and I bet most people here don't even have kids. Everything people are complaining about is explained in the video. It's tough love, all you anti-gun people are just going crazy because the man shoots a gun, get over it, what if he smashed it with a sledgehammer, it's the same shit and people wouldn't be linking it to mental disorders and all of that b.s. Get real, the gun served the same purpose as any other means of destruction. Seriously, get over it. From what he explained in the video, hes actually a pretty damn good parent, who gives her what she wants, and asks for some chores in return. She has already disrespected him on FB before, and said if she did it again, it would be a lot worse than before. Your kid isn't going to disown you over an incident like this, shes going to be thinking a lot about what she did and when the tension boils down, things will most likely get better. The gun, her father smoking a cigarette in a lawn chair, being a 'hick' those are all irrelevant to how you parent your children. I feel like so many people here are overly sensitive, you don't raise your kids by ALWAYS talking to them, at least at first... actions speak louder. It's pretty damn obvious hes showing her how immature she is, by doing the same shit she did, and posting it on FB. He didn't ruin her Life, I bet she'll actually thank him later on for giving her a reality check. I think some of guys need one. Cant we just remove every post in this thread except this one and call it a day? I second this.
And about that "whore" discussion a few pages back, there is a difference in "whore" and "attention whore", "attention whore" is just an extreme way to describe a person that does stupid shit because (s)he wants attention and has nothing to do with selling your body.
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Fenrax
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On February 12 2012 11:48 Starparty wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 11:11 v3chr0 wrote:I find it hilarious that people are trying to tell other people how to raise their kids based on 1 video of information over 16yrs of his daughters life, and I bet most people here don't even have kids. Everything people are complaining about is explained in the video. It's tough love, all you anti-gun people are just going crazy because the man shoots a gun, get over it, what if he smashed it with a sledgehammer, it's the same shit and people wouldn't be linking it to mental disorders and all of that b.s. Get real, the gun served the same purpose as any other means of destruction. Seriously, get over it. From what he explained in the video, hes actually a pretty damn good parent, who gives her what she wants, and asks for some chores in return. She has already disrespected him on FB before, and said if she did it again, it would be a lot worse than before. Your kid isn't going to disown you over an incident like this, shes going to be thinking a lot about what she did and when the tension boils down, things will most likely get better. The gun, her father smoking a cigarette in a lawn chair, being a 'hick' those are all irrelevant to how you parent your children. I feel like so many people here are overly sensitive, you don't raise your kids by ALWAYS talking to them, at least at first... actions speak louder. It's pretty damn obvious hes showing her how immature she is, by doing the same shit she did, and posting it on FB. He didn't ruin her Life, I bet she'll actually thank him later on for giving her a reality check. I think some of guys need one. Cant we just remove every post in this thread except this one and call it a day?
No, because there are a few things wrong with it. First of all he just believes what the guy explains in the video. Of course he says he is a good father. Good fathers say that, horrible fathers say that. That is just not relevant. Second he not only did to her what she did to him, he did something far worse. He is the father and should try to be a role model, not seeking for revenge.
Also, many of you complaing about how you and he represents the "life is tough guys" and those criticizing are weaklings. But isn't that guy the biggest sissy? "oh my goodness my daughter disrespected me on facebook, lah di dah". Yeah, tough. What's next? Did your 5 year old call you "mean"? Shoot his teddy bear!
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On February 12 2012 12:56 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 11:48 Starparty wrote:On February 12 2012 11:11 v3chr0 wrote:I find it hilarious that people are trying to tell other people how to raise their kids based on 1 video of information over 16yrs of his daughters life, and I bet most people here don't even have kids. Everything people are complaining about is explained in the video. It's tough love, all you anti-gun people are just going crazy because the man shoots a gun, get over it, what if he smashed it with a sledgehammer, it's the same shit and people wouldn't be linking it to mental disorders and all of that b.s. Get real, the gun served the same purpose as any other means of destruction. Seriously, get over it. From what he explained in the video, hes actually a pretty damn good parent, who gives her what she wants, and asks for some chores in return. She has already disrespected him on FB before, and said if she did it again, it would be a lot worse than before. Your kid isn't going to disown you over an incident like this, shes going to be thinking a lot about what she did and when the tension boils down, things will most likely get better. The gun, her father smoking a cigarette in a lawn chair, being a 'hick' those are all irrelevant to how you parent your children. I feel like so many people here are overly sensitive, you don't raise your kids by ALWAYS talking to them, at least at first... actions speak louder. It's pretty damn obvious hes showing her how immature she is, by doing the same shit she did, and posting it on FB. He didn't ruin her Life, I bet she'll actually thank him later on for giving her a reality check. I think some of guys need one. Cant we just remove every post in this thread except this one and call it a day? No, because there are a few things wrong with it. First of all he just believes what the guy explains in the video. Of course he says he is a good father. Good fathers say that, horrible fathers say that. That is just not relevant. Second he not only did to her what she did to him, he did something far worse. He is the father and should try to be a role model, not seeking for revenge. Also, many of you complaing about how you and he represents the "life is tough guys" and those criticizing are weaklings. But isn't that guy the biggest sissy? "oh my goodness my daughter disrespected me on facebook, lah di dah". Yeah, tough. What's next? Did your 5 year old call you "mean"? Shoot his teddy bear!
The difference is that the 5 year old is 5 years old. The daughter is much older.
Furthermore, how exactly would you have reprimanded the child? Would you have continued with a punishment that clearly doesn't have the desired effect?
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On February 12 2012 12:56 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 11:48 Starparty wrote:On February 12 2012 11:11 v3chr0 wrote:I find it hilarious that people are trying to tell other people how to raise their kids based on 1 video of information over 16yrs of his daughters life, and I bet most people here don't even have kids. Everything people are complaining about is explained in the video. It's tough love, all you anti-gun people are just going crazy because the man shoots a gun, get over it, what if he smashed it with a sledgehammer, it's the same shit and people wouldn't be linking it to mental disorders and all of that b.s. Get real, the gun served the same purpose as any other means of destruction. Seriously, get over it. From what he explained in the video, hes actually a pretty damn good parent, who gives her what she wants, and asks for some chores in return. She has already disrespected him on FB before, and said if she did it again, it would be a lot worse than before. Your kid isn't going to disown you over an incident like this, shes going to be thinking a lot about what she did and when the tension boils down, things will most likely get better. The gun, her father smoking a cigarette in a lawn chair, being a 'hick' those are all irrelevant to how you parent your children. I feel like so many people here are overly sensitive, you don't raise your kids by ALWAYS talking to them, at least at first... actions speak louder. It's pretty damn obvious hes showing her how immature she is, by doing the same shit she did, and posting it on FB. He didn't ruin her Life, I bet she'll actually thank him later on for giving her a reality check. I think some of guys need one. Cant we just remove every post in this thread except this one and call it a day? No, because there are a few things wrong with it. First of all he just believes what the guy explains in the video. Of course he says he is a good father. Good fathers say that, horrible fathers say that. That is just not relevant. Second he not only did to her what she did to him, he did something far worse. He is the father and should try to be a role model, not seeking for revenge. Also, many of you complaing about how you and he represents the "life is tough guys" and those criticizing are weaklings. But isn't that guy the biggest sissy? "oh my goodness my daughter disrespected me on facebook, lah di dah". Yeah, tough. What's next? Did your 5 year old call you "mean"? Shoot his teddy bear!
The reason why I believe hes a good parent, is because in the video, he displayed he is/was reasonable before this incident. And the followup further explains how the situation turned out, and is alright now. I'm not assuming any more than I know, unlike many others.
This post may help explain:
On February 12 2012 11:35 wunsun wrote: Read his post, and his Q&A with a report by email. I completely support him now, it seems like he seems fairly normal, and did this to make a point. I mean, this has occurred before (what she did, and they took the laptop away), and apparently the daughter did not remember what happened and the consequences. I guess he felt that something much more dramatic had to occur for the daughter to listen up, and it did. He discussed it with the daughter afterward, and everything seems to have worked out.
As for the gun being over dramagic, I think they are a gun friendly house as the daughter wants a .22 rifle.
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In this world that we live in we need to spread positive karma. Karma is very real, take for example someone respecting another person, that person will likely respect another person they see. While the actions of the first individual may not benefit him immediately or ever, karma is real in the fact that he is bringing good into the world. Acts like these by the father are responses to negative karma.
I believe the daughter was acting out of bad karma passed to her from some other individual, and in that same respect, passed it into her words she expressed on facebook. The father received this negative karma and responded accordingly.
Imagine the world as a human body, the more toxins, or bad karma we put into it, the less functional it becomes. But if we spread good karma, the body will function and prosper. Sorry if that was a bad example. The point being, if we can avoid spreading bad karma, then situations like this will never occur.
Spread the good karma, you will feel better, and knowing that you made someone else feel better, as well as possibly an infinite number of people, you should be very proud. You are all very important to me and I try to spread this knowledge out of love for all humans. Thanks for reading my post, I sincerely hope you have a great rest of the day. (:
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I'm just amazed how he thought shooting it was a better idea than giving it away or donating it. The big lesson he taught here was break shit when you're mad.
Not to mention that she'll never forget this and it will most likely fuel more hate in the future.
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Kids don't konw how to find the tangent to a curve? Shit.
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I am very much in favor of what he did. The girl was being melodramatic and spoiled, and he told her not to fuck with him. I don't like the way he did it though; he seemed to want to retaliate and 'get at her' instead of teach her (although I know he tried before).
What I am most concerned about now is that he might have legitimately ruined her life, considering this video has exploded with views like I have never seen before. And, as most of you should know, high schoolers are very unforgiving...
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My parents would have beat my ass for that facebook post lol.
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I thought it was pretty funny. There's definitely better responses to her behavior, but he at least provided me, the home viewer a significant amount of amusement.
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I say she got off easy, I've been beaten for less. In fact, I don't think I've ever been grounded. I just get beaten to the ground.
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On February 12 2012 14:41 Proko wrote: I thought it was pretty funny. There's definitely better responses to her behavior, but he at least provided me, the home viewer a significant amount of amusement.
Such as what, expensive counseling that rarely changes anything?
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On February 11 2012 12:04 Azzur wrote: She actually asked me to post a comment on one of the threads (and I did) asking what other job fields the victims of laptop-homicide were eligible for because she wasn’t too keen on the stripping thing.
Hah! Best line of the interview.
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Apparently, after reading everything the dad has said, his method was effective for disciplining his own kids. So we can't really judge. I still think it's not going to be very effective for 99% of parents, but for him it works. That's good. One thing, how is she supposed to understand the value of money when you put a bullet through a $1200 laptop? Wouldn't it be much more practical to sell it, or give it to somebody?
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My parents discplined me similarly when I was very young but from around 12 or 13 yrs old and onwards I have been more wary of getting in trouble than anything. Now 21 I haven't been discplined by my parents for at least 6 or so years, but I am just as wary of getting in trouble at a job and am extremely frugal with money or any other resource. I'm thankful for what they did.
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