On March 07 2012 03:58 kobrakai wrote: The UK should start putting pictures of obscenely obese people on fast food, fatty foods, snacks just like we have pictures of horrendous teeth, fucking dirty lungs etc.
I'm also sick and tired of food I like getting reduced fat and salt content.
Fat and salt make things taste good, is it my fault that fat fuckers can't control themselves?
Funny how it is sugar and excess carbs that are bad for you. Its really hard to be fat on a high fat diet, and salt is harmless for healthy people (unless you try commit suicide with salt or smth)
Salt isn't harmless for healthy people, healthy people can still eat too much of it. Which is harmful. Also a great many people in this thread seem to think ( at least this is what I think they think) that being slim means you're healthy. If you're really fat you're unhealthy, but if you're slim you can be either healthy or unhealthy.
you can be fat and still have balanced diet and come out of it healthy, jsut becuase your overwieght doesnt mean your eating greasy fatty salty food for every meal
On March 06 2012 22:23 CrY. wrote: In the US (in most states) smoking is completely banned from indoor facilities. Also there are a lot of "above the influence" ads and even quitsmoking.org, which in my state advertises frequently as well. As such (at least in my state) smoking has obviously gone down in popularity; however, there are still many who do it, and it's seen as a personal choice if not a little bit frowned upon.
In Australia (in most states), obesity is completely banned from indoor facilities. Also there are a lot of ads and even obesitydiscussion.com, which in my state does not advertise at all. As such (at least in my state) obesity has obviously gone down in popularity; however, there are still many who do it, and it's seen as a personal choice if not a little bit frowned upon.
The sigarette packages in my country have a label that says "Smoking is lethal". This label doesn't cover the damage of smoking. You don't just have a heart attack early. It's the way you slowly die and suffer, with years and years of deterioration. If a smoker says that he doesn't mind if he gets lung cancer later, that's the addiction speaking.
Smoking is addictive. So is unhealthy food. The combination of sugar and fat actually modifies the way your brains react to food. It took many, many years to reduce smoking, and it will probably take many years to reduce unhealthy food. But action has to start now. Ban trans fat. Tax fast food, and put that tax into health education at school. Ban unhealthy food from the schools. Give every candybar and hamburger a label that says: "this can make you fat".
Did you see the ad from the Chupa Chups lolly's? "Chupa Chups contains glucose, a source of energy for your brain!" Ban these ads too! It should be illegal to brainwash kids to eat themselves to death.
How can people say obesity doesn't affect other people.... do you have any idea how much money they cost us... Healthcare is subsidized by the gov in the US, and in other countries it is covered much more by the government.
Other ways obese people make the world worse:
-Smell bad, always sweating and nasty and gross... Not too different from a smoker who takes no heed of his smell, breath etc (although 99% smokers are very good about this)
-Take up seats and space, where in the past there wasn't an issue (sounds silly but its a real problem in packed/crowded area)
-Make it worse on their children by "forcing" them either by choices they impose on young children or genetics, to be obese, thus perpetuating a cycle of unhealthiness.
Smokers generally recognize the health risks vs their social or mental returns and choose to smoke, Obese people just seem like out of control people who don't understand that they make the world worse for everyone.
And for reference I am not generalizing 100% of fat people, that can't be done with any demographic. There are many factors from genetic to socio-economic. But changes must be made because this is completely out of hand, and frankly ridiculous.
I pity the people who are socially awkward to the point where they need to smoke in order to communicate to people, not saying all smokers are like that but to the people who have mentioned so in this thread.
Obesity isn't a self-choice if your young because your parents are in charge of food and you eat, don't know any better. Once your old enough though, then I think it's your responsibility to stop fucking around and go lift some heavy shit in the gym instead of lamenting at home with a bag of doritoes to dip into ice-cream.
On March 06 2012 22:51 naggerNZ wrote: I think most anti-smoking advocates and campaigns are overzealous and misinformed. I smoke, and it's a personal choice I make. I know the health risks, I know the downsides. But I enjoy it, and I find many benefits it creates that non-smokers really don't seem to understand or account for. I am very infuriated when people imply that I don't make an active and informed decision to smoke tobacco, either due to underhanded advertising from tobacco companies, or that I'm a slave to addiction. It's incredibly condescending and hypocritical as I often find I am much more informed on the facts regarding smoking than those who will tell me I should quit.
Equating either smoking or obesity to each other is to completely miss the complexity of both issues. To try and force people to change against their will on either issue is wrong and immoral.
Out of curiosity, what benefits does your smoking create that non-smokers don't understand or account for?
Well, for me personally, I find it helps overcome a lot of social anxiety problems. I have difficulty interacting with people I don't know, and it can create problems in a working environment. However, I find that having a smoke with someone immediately overcomes this barrier. It acts as both an icebreaker and common ground. And given my line of work, I work with new people in stressful situations all the time (I'm a bouncer). Also, I find that it's a good excuse to take breaks. If I don't take regular smoke breaks sometimes I can work 8 hours non stop without a break in a hot, noisy bar/club. Not very good for your sanity.
Also, it's worth noting the biological effects of smoking. It's well understood that smoking releases beta-endorphins, which simulate feelings of satisfaction and accomplishment, something not everyone is lucky enough to get elsewhere.
Also, I like the taste and the buzz and it helps me get through the week.
On March 07 2012 07:31 BreakfastBurrito wrote: How can people say obesity doesn't affect other people.... do you have any idea how much money they cost us... Healthcare is subsidized by the gov in the US, and in other countries it is covered much more by the government.
Other ways obese people make the world worse:
-Smell bad, always sweating and nasty and gross... Not too different from a smoker who takes no heed of his smell, breath etc (although 99% smokers are very good about this)
-Take up seats and space, where in the past there wasn't an issue (sounds silly but its a real problem in packed/crowded area)
-Make it worse on their children by "forcing" them either by choices they impose on young children or genetics, to be obese, thus perpetuating a cycle of unhealthiness.
Smokers generally recognize the health risks vs their social or mental returns and choose to smoke, Obese people just seem like out of control people who don't understand that they make the world worse for everyone.
And for reference I am not generalizing 100% of fat people, that can't be done with any demographic. There are many factors from genetic to socio-economic. But changes must be made because this is completely out of hand, and frankly ridiculous.
are you being serious here? what does bad personal hygene have to do with eing Obese? what about people who are healthy, have bad personal hygiene and is the person noone wants to sit next to are these people the same as being Obese?
i dont get how you can say obese people make the world worse with a straight face, obese people dont unhealthy people do
On March 07 2012 07:31 BreakfastBurrito wrote: How can people say obesity doesn't affect other people.... do you have any idea how much money they cost us... Healthcare is subsidized by the gov in the US, and in other countries it is covered much more by the government.
Other ways obese people make the world worse:
-Smell bad, always sweating and nasty and gross... Not too different from a smoker who takes no heed of his smell, breath etc (although 99% smokers are very good about this)
-Take up seats and space, where in the past there wasn't an issue (sounds silly but its a real problem in packed/crowded area)
-Make it worse on their children by "forcing" them either by choices they impose on young children or genetics, to be obese, thus perpetuating a cycle of unhealthiness.
Smokers generally recognize the health risks vs their social or mental returns and choose to smoke, Obese people just seem like out of control people who don't understand that they make the world worse for everyone.
And for reference I am not generalizing 100% of fat people, that can't be done with any demographic. There are many factors from genetic to socio-economic. But changes must be made because this is completely out of hand, and frankly ridiculous.
what are you talkin please?
1. i dont even use a deodorant anymore after i realized that i dont smell, even after a heavy workout (my friend and me were doing cardio until sweat was dropping. later we were going to the cinema and we both forgot to shower -> none of us was smelling)
2. i take up exactly one seat at the cinema, bitch.
3. if i'll ever have children, i'll make them a fresh plate of fruit everyday and buy them no sweets at all, so they dont have to go through what i go through.
On March 07 2012 07:31 BreakfastBurrito wrote: How can people say obesity doesn't affect other people.... do you have any idea how much money they cost us... Healthcare is subsidized by the gov in the US, and in other countries it is covered much more by the government.
Other ways obese people make the world worse:
-Smell bad, always sweating and nasty and gross... Not too different from a smoker who takes no heed of his smell, breath etc (although 99% smokers are very good about this)
-Take up seats and space, where in the past there wasn't an issue (sounds silly but its a real problem in packed/crowded area)
-Make it worse on their children by "forcing" them either by choices they impose on young children or genetics, to be obese, thus perpetuating a cycle of unhealthiness.
Smokers generally recognize the health risks vs their social or mental returns and choose to smoke, Obese people just seem like out of control people who don't understand that they make the world worse for everyone.
And for reference I am not generalizing 100% of fat people, that can't be done with any demographic. There are many factors from genetic to socio-economic. But changes must be made because this is completely out of hand, and frankly ridiculous.
are you being serious here? what does bad personal hygene have to do with eing Obese? what about people who are healthy, have bad personal hygiene and is the person noone wants to sit next to are these people the same as being Obese?
i dont get how you can say obese people make the world worse with a straight face, obese people dont unhealthy people do
On March 07 2012 07:31 BreakfastBurrito wrote: How can people say obesity doesn't affect other people.... do you have any idea how much money they cost us... Healthcare is subsidized by the gov in the US, and in other countries it is covered much more by the government.
Other ways obese people make the world worse:
-Smell bad, always sweating and nasty and gross... Not too different from a smoker who takes no heed of his smell, breath etc (although 99% smokers are very good about this)
-Take up seats and space, where in the past there wasn't an issue (sounds silly but its a real problem in packed/crowded area)
-Make it worse on their children by "forcing" them either by choices they impose on young children or genetics, to be obese, thus perpetuating a cycle of unhealthiness.
Smokers generally recognize the health risks vs their social or mental returns and choose to smoke, Obese people just seem like out of control people who don't understand that they make the world worse for everyone.
And for reference I am not generalizing 100% of fat people, that can't be done with any demographic. There are many factors from genetic to socio-economic. But changes must be made because this is completely out of hand, and frankly ridiculous.
are you being serious here? what does bad personal hygene have to do with eing Obese? what about people who are healthy, have bad personal hygiene and is the person noone wants to sit next to are these people the same as being Obese?
i dont get how you can say obese people make the world worse with a straight face, obese people dont unhealthy people do
On March 07 2012 03:58 kobrakai wrote: The UK should start putting pictures of obscenely obese people on fast food, fatty foods, snacks just like we have pictures of horrendous teeth, fucking dirty lungs etc.
I'm also sick and tired of food I like getting reduced fat and salt content.
Fat and salt make things taste good, is it my fault that fat fuckers can't control themselves?
Funny how it is sugar and excess carbs that are bad for you. Its really hard to be fat on a high fat diet, and salt is harmless for healthy people (unless you try commit suicide with salt or smth)
Salt isn't harmless for healthy people, healthy people can still eat too much of it. Which is harmful. Also a great many people in this thread seem to think ( at least this is what I think they think) that being slim means you're healthy. If you're really fat you're unhealthy, but if you're slim you can be either healthy or unhealthy.
you can be fat and still have balanced diet and come out of it healthy, jsut becuase your overwieght doesnt mean your eating greasy fatty salty food for every meal
You could do it, but if you're overweight then it's problaby because you're living unhealthily.
Also I said people that are really fat are always unhealthy, which is true.
On March 07 2012 03:58 kobrakai wrote: The UK should start putting pictures of obscenely obese people on fast food, fatty foods, snacks just like we have pictures of horrendous teeth, fucking dirty lungs etc.
I'm also sick and tired of food I like getting reduced fat and salt content.
Fat and salt make things taste good, is it my fault that fat fuckers can't control themselves?
Funny how it is sugar and excess carbs that are bad for you. Its really hard to be fat on a high fat diet, and salt is harmless for healthy people (unless you try commit suicide with salt or smth)
Salt isn't harmless for healthy people, healthy people can still eat too much of it. Which is harmful. Also a great many people in this thread seem to think ( at least this is what I think they think) that being slim means you're healthy. If you're really fat you're unhealthy, but if you're slim you can be either healthy or unhealthy.
you can be fat and still have balanced diet and come out of it healthy, jsut becuase your overwieght doesnt mean your eating greasy fatty salty food for every meal
You could do it, but if you're overweight then it's problaby because you're living unhealthily.
Also I said people that are really fat are always unhealthy, which is true.
ya but not all obese people are 400 pounds and need help getting out of there house, those are the extreme rare cases
majority of obese arent 400 pounds and can still lead a healthy life, weight isnt something taht just melts off by eating healthy you have to do some serious work to actually drop the pounds so you can get to 200-300 pounds make a few small changes never lose a pound but live healthy the thing about being overweight is trying to lose weight is literally a fight against your body unless done very carefully
On March 07 2012 03:58 kobrakai wrote: The UK should start putting pictures of obscenely obese people on fast food, fatty foods, snacks just like we have pictures of horrendous teeth, fucking dirty lungs etc.
I'm also sick and tired of food I like getting reduced fat and salt content.
Fat and salt make things taste good, is it my fault that fat fuckers can't control themselves?
Funny how it is sugar and excess carbs that are bad for you. Its really hard to be fat on a high fat diet, and salt is harmless for healthy people (unless you try commit suicide with salt or smth)
Salt isn't harmless for healthy people, healthy people can still eat too much of it. Which is harmful. Also a great many people in this thread seem to think ( at least this is what I think they think) that being slim means you're healthy. If you're really fat you're unhealthy, but if you're slim you can be either healthy or unhealthy.
you can be fat and still have balanced diet and come out of it healthy, jsut becuase your overwieght doesnt mean your eating greasy fatty salty food for every meal
You could do it, but if you're overweight then it's problaby because you're living unhealthily.
Also I said people that are really fat are always unhealthy, which is true.
ya but not all obese people are 400 pounds and need help getting out of there house, those are the extreme rare cases
majority of obese arent 400 pounds and can still lead a healthy life, weight isnt something taht just melts off by eating healthy you have to do some serious work to actually drop the pounds so you can get to 200-300 pounds make a few small changes never lose a pound but live healthy the thing about being overweight is trying to lose weight is literally a fight against your body unless done very carefully
Yeah ofcourse if you look at it that way, I hadn't considered people that are fat because of a previous bad diet. But then adopt a healthy diet while not losing the fat because that takes a long time. Being overweight is never favorable though still. Kind of the definition of overweight I guess.
On March 07 2012 03:58 kobrakai wrote: The UK should start putting pictures of obscenely obese people on fast food, fatty foods, snacks just like we have pictures of horrendous teeth, fucking dirty lungs etc.
I'm also sick and tired of food I like getting reduced fat and salt content.
Fat and salt make things taste good, is it my fault that fat fuckers can't control themselves?
Funny how it is sugar and excess carbs that are bad for you. Its really hard to be fat on a high fat diet, and salt is harmless for healthy people (unless you try commit suicide with salt or smth)
Salt isn't harmless for healthy people, healthy people can still eat too much of it. Which is harmful. Also a great many people in this thread seem to think ( at least this is what I think they think) that being slim means you're healthy. If you're really fat you're unhealthy, but if you're slim you can be either healthy or unhealthy.
you can be fat and still have balanced diet and come out of it healthy, jsut becuase your overwieght doesnt mean your eating greasy fatty salty food for every meal
You could do it, but if you're overweight then it's problaby because you're living unhealthily.
Also I said people that are really fat are always unhealthy, which is true.
ya but not all obese people are 400 pounds and need help getting out of there house, those are the extreme rare cases
majority of obese arent 400 pounds and can still lead a healthy life, weight isnt something taht just melts off by eating healthy you have to do some serious work to actually drop the pounds so you can get to 200-300 pounds make a few small changes never lose a pound but live healthy the thing about being overweight is trying to lose weight is literally a fight against your body unless done very carefully
Yeah ofcourse if you look at it that way, I hadn't considered people that are fat because of a previous bad diet. But then adopt a healthy diet while not losing the fat because that takes a long time. Being overweight is never favorable though still. Kind of the definition of overweight I guess.
"Too much is bad!"
being overwieght may never be good but if your not morbidly obese and arent so obese it gives you trouble performing your everyday activities (i know many cooks who are pretty fat but can still do there job fine) then while it isnt good it isnt bad as long as your eating a balanced diet
its the dumb people like that guy i heard of who eats like 200 oranges a day or something
and while being obese is bad, you have to lose that weight carefully, the people who go crazy and try to lose 100 punds in a month are literally damaging there body if you go from eating 3 huge meals a day to eating a yogurt cup your body will rebel and assume your starving and do everything it can to make sure it stores as much fat as possible
the best way to lsoe weight is slowly reduce the amount of food you eat (like skip dessert here and there or take a bit less or one less serving) this ensures your body likes the weight your at and wont try to make you gain it back
I am considered overweight. I am 6,4 and 259 pounds. I dont drink beer , smoke or eat red meat. I can out lift and out run most people in this thread. Yup i am a fat slob...... I think we need a thread about underweight people.
On March 07 2012 12:08 Dbars wrote: I am considered overweight. I am 6,4 and 259 pounds. I dont drink beer , smoke or eat red meat. I can out lift and out run most people in this thread. Yup i am a fat slob...... I think we need a thread about underweight people.
There is a difference between being moderately heavy and obese (both in weight and body fat, which is why BMI is such a retarded measurement). There is also the people who chose to be fat so they can excel at their sports. It must be really hard to keep that weight without eating red meat -.-.
On March 07 2012 07:31 BreakfastBurrito wrote: How can people say obesity doesn't affect other people.... do you have any idea how much money they cost us... Healthcare is subsidized by the gov in the US, and in other countries it is covered much more by the government.
Other ways obese people make the world worse:
-Smell bad, always sweating and nasty and gross... Not too different from a smoker who takes no heed of his smell, breath etc (although 99% smokers are very good about this)
-Take up seats and space, where in the past there wasn't an issue (sounds silly but its a real problem in packed/crowded area)
-Make it worse on their children by "forcing" them either by choices they impose on young children or genetics, to be obese, thus perpetuating a cycle of unhealthiness.
Smokers generally recognize the health risks vs their social or mental returns and choose to smoke, Obese people just seem like out of control people who don't understand that they make the world worse for everyone.
And for reference I am not generalizing 100% of fat people, that can't be done with any demographic. There are many factors from genetic to socio-economic. But changes must be made because this is completely out of hand, and frankly ridiculous.
are you being serious here? what does bad personal hygene have to do with eing Obese? what about people who are healthy, have bad personal hygiene and is the person noone wants to sit next to are these people the same as being Obese?
i dont get how you can say obese people make the world worse with a straight face, obese people dont unhealthy people do
I don't smoke, and I'm not really very invested in tobacco's use at all, but does anyone have a non-biased research about the effects of second hand smoke? I mean, how can something you occasionally come into contact with have major long term effects? It's not as if smokers sit next to their kid's beds while they light up, and breath smoke over their little faces. My smoker friends always crack a window when they light up in a car and I don't get anything other than a little smell.
I mean, if you actually take a hit of tobacco, which I've unfortunately had to do a few times, you're going to want to cough immediately. As a non-smoker it's really easy to tell that I've inhaled tobacco smoke.
On March 07 2012 07:31 BreakfastBurrito wrote: How can people say obesity doesn't affect other people.... do you have any idea how much money they cost us... Healthcare is subsidized by the gov in the US, and in other countries it is covered much more by the government.
Other ways obese people make the world worse:
-Smell bad, always sweating and nasty and gross... Not too different from a smoker who takes no heed of his smell, breath etc (although 99% smokers are very good about this)
-Take up seats and space, where in the past there wasn't an issue (sounds silly but its a real problem in packed/crowded area)
-Make it worse on their children by "forcing" them either by choices they impose on young children or genetics, to be obese, thus perpetuating a cycle of unhealthiness.
Smokers generally recognize the health risks vs their social or mental returns and choose to smoke, Obese people just seem like out of control people who don't understand that they make the world worse for everyone.
And for reference I am not generalizing 100% of fat people, that can't be done with any demographic. There are many factors from genetic to socio-economic. But changes must be made because this is completely out of hand, and frankly ridiculous.
are you being serious here? what does bad personal hygene have to do with eing Obese? what about people who are healthy, have bad personal hygiene and is the person noone wants to sit next to are these people the same as being Obese?
i dont get how you can say obese people make the world worse with a straight face, obese people dont unhealthy people do