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i consider myself a reasonable person. i watched the video and it hits the zeitgeist perfectly. ive known about problems like this for much longer and i think this is well deserved attention.
i can understand people being skeptical... its a healthy thing to be but what does it cost you to share something like this on facebook? maybe share one stupid ragecominc less? first snowball thing i actually take part of.
i like the idea of revolting from home if you can say it like this. i appreciate this also during times where people talk about things like ACTA. its not just child armies its the hole idea of this documentary that i support.
since 200.000 germans went to see obama in berlin i lost any kind of hope and respect for my generation. this thing actually could make me less of a misanthrop.
nothing wrong with that.
also discussion like this here are healthy too.
ps: id like to know what alex jones has to say about this ^_^
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On March 09 2012 07:00 leecH wrote: i consider myself a reasonable person. i watched the video and it hits the zeitgeist perfectly. ive known about problems like this for much longer and i think this is well deserved attention.
i can understand people being skeptical... its a healthy thing to be but what does it cost you to share something like this on facebook? maybe share one stupid ragecominc less? first snowball thing i actually take part of.
i like the idea of revolting from home if you can say it like this. i appreciate this also during times where people talk about things like ACTA. its not just child armies its the hole idea of this documentary that i support.
since 200.000 germans went to see obama in berlin i lost any kind of hope and respect for my generation. this thing actually could make me less of a misanthrop.
nothing wrong with that.
also discussion like this here are healthy too.
ps: id like to know what alex jones has to say about this ^_^
What's wrong with seeing Obama in Berlin?
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On March 09 2012 06:14 acgFork wrote: Dear Jibba,
Kony hasn't been in Uganda for years. The US gov. uses this charity as a propaganda tool to increase military presence and take control of the petroleum in Uganda, which has been eyed by China for quite a while now. Sadly, some people can't see the forest, but simply the trees.
Too bad that's about as wrong as possible.
It's not even on the top 97 list of oil reserves. Argument invalid.
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On March 09 2012 05:11 zalz wrote:Show nested quote +One cannot simply be for or against child soldiering as the world, in all its complexity, doesn't reduce to such simple reasoning. Really? I would love to hear the interesting nuance that will make me view child soldiers in a completely new light. Not everything can be reduced to simple black and white, good and evil, but I think child soldiering is one of the rare few where you can. But again, my mind is wide open. Can't wait to be illuminated and see how naive I was for all these years being against the concept of child soldiers.
Thats not the point... But saying things like "im against child soldiers" or "im against war" is just stating the obvious and really doesnt mean anything. The whole situation is way more complex, poverty, racism, civil wars, etc etc, child soldiers are something thats happens because of these conditions.
Saying you want to stop child soldiers without adressing all of these problems is just stupid, the only point is to get people to support you because if anyone dares to disagree with you you can just throw "so you support child soldiers" in their face...
No one likes child soldiers but to do anything about it youd have to do something against the poverty in africa which probably isnt an easy task.. What if they catch this guy? Then everyone will be happy and whoever takes credit for it will get his fame, and in africa the next guy comes along and no one even cares anymore.
You cant prevent terrorism by invading a country You cant stop child pornography by censoring the internet You cant stop child soldiers by imprisoning kony..
You are against war? Against poverty? Against Child soldiers? Really? You dont say...
Its just a meaningless statement, this guy obviously is awful and no one "likes" what hes doing but thats not a way to approach this problem..
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On March 09 2012 05:11 zalz wrote:Show nested quote +One cannot simply be for or against child soldiering as the world, in all its complexity, doesn't reduce to such simple reasoning. Really? I would love to hear the interesting nuance that will make me view child soldiers in a completely new light. Not everything can be reduced to simple black and white, good and evil, but I think child soldiering is one of the rare few where you can. But again, my mind is wide open. Can't wait to be illuminated and see how naive I was for all these years being against the concept of child soldiers. Ender's game!
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The problem runs much deeper than Kony. There are likely thousands of people willing to take his place, removing him won't do anything. Prime example; Osama, he's dead, and Al Qaeda is still operating per usual.
Being from the USA I'm tired of feeling as if my country has some kind of obligation to be the worlds army. I personally hope our government completely disregards this Kony shit because we're not able to financially support Uganda. Like I said, just taking Kony down is only a small step in the right direction.
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On March 09 2012 07:48 accent wrote: The problem runs much deeper than Kony. There are likely thousands of people willing to take his place, removing him won't do anything. Prime example; Osama, he's dead, and Al Qaeda is still operating per usual.
Being from the USA I'm tired of feeling as if my country has some kind of obligation to be the worlds army. I personally hope our government completely disregards this Kony shit because we're not able to financially support Uganda. Like I said, just taking Kony down is only a small step in the right direction. are you actually implying the world sees the US as their army?
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On March 09 2012 07:59 teddyoojo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 07:48 accent wrote: The problem runs much deeper than Kony. There are likely thousands of people willing to take his place, removing him won't do anything. Prime example; Osama, he's dead, and Al Qaeda is still operating per usual.
Being from the USA I'm tired of feeling as if my country has some kind of obligation to be the worlds army. I personally hope our government completely disregards this Kony shit because we're not able to financially support Uganda. Like I said, just taking Kony down is only a small step in the right direction. are you actually implying the world sees the US as their army?
I can't speak for him, but the world expects that of us. Why do work when someone else will?
Doesn't have to be implying.
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Only 32% of the $8.7 million dollar donations being spent on actual direct service for this campaign.
No thanks.
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On March 09 2012 08:01 smarty pants wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 07:59 teddyoojo wrote:On March 09 2012 07:48 accent wrote: The problem runs much deeper than Kony. There are likely thousands of people willing to take his place, removing him won't do anything. Prime example; Osama, he's dead, and Al Qaeda is still operating per usual.
Being from the USA I'm tired of feeling as if my country has some kind of obligation to be the worlds army. I personally hope our government completely disregards this Kony shit because we're not able to financially support Uganda. Like I said, just taking Kony down is only a small step in the right direction. are you actually implying the world sees the US as their army? I can't speak for him, but the world expects that of us. Why do work when someone else will? Doesn't have to be implying.
Answered it EXACTLY how I would have. Thank you
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On March 09 2012 08:02 BrenttheGreat wrote: Only 32% of the $8.7 million dollar donations being spent on actual direct service for this campaign.
No thanks.
PHONY 2012
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On March 09 2012 08:01 smarty pants wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 07:59 teddyoojo wrote:On March 09 2012 07:48 accent wrote: The problem runs much deeper than Kony. There are likely thousands of people willing to take his place, removing him won't do anything. Prime example; Osama, he's dead, and Al Qaeda is still operating per usual.
Being from the USA I'm tired of feeling as if my country has some kind of obligation to be the worlds army. I personally hope our government completely disregards this Kony shit because we're not able to financially support Uganda. Like I said, just taking Kony down is only a small step in the right direction. are you actually implying the world sees the US as their army? I can't speak for him, but the world expects that of us. Why do work when someone else will? Doesn't have to be implying.
well that's certainly not what I expect of the US army
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On March 09 2012 08:29 Skilledblob wrote:
well that's certainly not what I expect of the US army
A single person or millions does not represent the Earth's seven billion plus.
But it's a good thing you feel that way.
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On March 09 2012 08:01 smarty pants wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 07:59 teddyoojo wrote:On March 09 2012 07:48 accent wrote: The problem runs much deeper than Kony. There are likely thousands of people willing to take his place, removing him won't do anything. Prime example; Osama, he's dead, and Al Qaeda is still operating per usual.
Being from the USA I'm tired of feeling as if my country has some kind of obligation to be the worlds army. I personally hope our government completely disregards this Kony shit because we're not able to financially support Uganda. Like I said, just taking Kony down is only a small step in the right direction. are you actually implying the world sees the US as their army? I can't speak for him, but the world expects that of us. Why do work when someone else will? Doesn't have to be implying.
No, the world doesn't expect that of you. We expect you to use the enourmous amount of power you have (which China is slowly taking over), for good - which could be done in other ways than invading every single country with oil... And piss of with your "we do all the work" attitude. You aren't alone on the front, and living in the country who happens to have the highest deathtoll/capita in Afghanistan it comes off as incredibly insulting.
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On March 09 2012 07:16 smarty pants wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 06:14 acgFork wrote: Dear Jibba,
Kony hasn't been in Uganda for years. The US gov. uses this charity as a propaganda tool to increase military presence and take control of the petroleum in Uganda, which has been eyed by China for quite a while now. Sadly, some people can't see the forest, but simply the trees.
Too bad that's about as wrong as possible. It's not even on the top 97 list of oil reserves. Argument invalid.
The top 97 list? hahaha ^^
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On March 09 2012 08:34 smarty pants wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 08:29 Skilledblob wrote:
well that's certainly not what I expect of the US army A single person or millions does not represent the Earth's seven billion plus. But it's a good thing you feel that way.
It's funny because you just tried to say that you know what those seven billion plus of Earths population expect of USA........
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On March 09 2012 08:35 Ghostcom wrote:
No, the world doesn't expect that of you. We expect you to use the enourmous amount of power you have (which China is slowly taking over), for good - which could be done in other ways than invading every single country with oil... And piss of with your "we do all the work" attitude. You aren't alone on the front, and living in the country who happens to have the highest deathtoll/capita in Afghanistan it comes off as incredibly insulting.
Can you speak for the planet, sir?
Not to mention with incredible power at it's disposal, it can do as it pleases. It doesn't have to be the good guy in every event and has not requirement to do so.
Also using the oil invasion excuse puts forward a weak argument, if you truly believe that you are rather naive.
[B]On March 09 2012 08:39 Ghostcom wrote:
It's funny because you just tried to say that you know what those seven billion plus of Earths population expect of USA........
I'm inclined to believe that using logic and inductive reasoning.
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I won't be donating, and there is a lot of misinformation, including a specifically selected accountant to audit the charities budgets. Not even that but they are trivializing the problems those people face by making it 'cool' and 'taken care of'. I wish I could provide a more positive avenue for people's energy, but that's for another topic.
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On March 09 2012 08:40 smarty pants wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2012 08:35 Ghostcom wrote:
No, the world doesn't expect that of you. We expect you to use the enourmous amount of power you have (which China is slowly taking over), for good - which could be done in other ways than invading every single country with oil... And piss of with your "we do all the work" attitude. You aren't alone on the front, and living in the country who happens to have the highest deathtoll/capita in Afghanistan it comes off as incredibly insulting. Can you speak for the planet, sir?Not to mention with incredible power at it's disposal, it can do as it pleases. It doesn't have to be the good guy in every event and has not requirement to do so. Also using the oil invasion excuse puts forward a weak argument, if you truly believe that you are rather naive.
Apperantly you can?
EDIT: Nice ninjaedits....
No, what you do has nothing to do with logic nor inductive reasoning...
EDIT2: I'm not going to bother continuing this BS, let's get back to the issue at hand which is Kony/Invisible Children...
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America should worry their own probems first
economy down the toilet ever increasing deficit obesity medicare controlled by insurance coorporations
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